Cup RACE thread -- COTA

I finally got to watch the race this morning. I'll give it to Tyler for laying it on the field.

Other than that it was really ugly....
One caution for incident, which was a tire falling off, and the racing through the field wasn't good at all.

Nascar needs to give up on this one, place doesn't put on a good show with this car. The car/hp/aero package didnt produce anything. Not to mention that this place has wayyyyy to much run off room that cars don't hit anything.
 
wi_racefan said:
But theres no penalty for blowing a corner or someone getting knocked off track. Everything is paved, you might as well setup a course in the Walmart parking lot
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I thought it was racing, not penalizing. Less cautions this year mean more racing BTW no matter what track it happens at.
 
wi_racefan said:
Very little in the grand scheme
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An accident-spawned yellow penalizes more than the car involved. Drivers lose their separation from the car behind them. Pit strategies are tossed aside. Other cars could be hit when the in-the-wall car rebounds. And cautions breed cautions, causing further disruption.

If you don't think lost time is enough penalty for going off course, are you saying only a damaged car is sufficient?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
An accident-spawned yellow penalizes more than the car involved. Drivers lose their separation from the car behind them. Pit strategies are tossed aside. Other cars could be hit when the in-the-wall car rebounds. And cautions breed cautions, causing further disruption.

If you don't think lost time is enough penalty for going off course, are you saying only a damaged car is sufficient?
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I think he will drop the hammer next and call for full on race council or whatever they call those glorified crossing guards who are up in the booth calling balls and strikes and screwing up more than they fix.
 
Marcingak said:
Thanks for this. Very informative. I had no idea that some drivers, like Ricky Stenhouse Jr, don't use cool suits at all. Makes me respect him more.
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I definitely think Nascar needs to put their foot down on teams cutting corners with the driver's cool suits. They are always talking about safety and this is a loose end IMO.
 
I kind of figured that the reason that most of them were failing was because teams were monkeying with them. If the system was just bad another manufacturer would have stepped up and made them.

So many drivers have trained for heat. I thought I remember back in the day Carl wasn't even running a helmet blower? He just had a couple ducts blowing on his body and he was good.
 
I still have some concerns about the 5 team. Cliff is still a genius at calling race strategy, but it's been a trend since mid 2025 that their car is often at its best to start the race, and just can't keep up with the changes everyone else makes. Finished stage 1 with top 2 pace, and was passing cars he couldnt keep up with the rest of the race.

Also, listening to their radio all race, they didnt make a single adjustment on the car at all. No car adjustment, no air pressure adjustment. No discussion of car balance outside of turn 20.

Hoping they figure this out.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I suggest those people avoid IndyCar and F1. Three in a row is nothing compared to what Palou and Verstappen have been doing for years.
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I'd never watch F1, I catch Indycar occasionally. I thought Palou has been doing this only since last season.
 
wi_racefan said:
There's nothing fishy. He won two super speedway tracks and a road course. Speedways are always a toss up and he has a history of running well at road courses.
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I think they do have a little something figured out on speed (under the hood or not) within the framework of the rules, that doesn't constitute fishy, just more of a testament to the hardwork they put in on their cars in the offseason to make themselves fast. And Reddick is capitalizing on all of it, making it happen on the track, where it's no guarantee of result. They are "handling down the straightaway" as DW used to say. That's racing. That's Motorsports.
 
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