Cup RACE thread -- COTA

[StandOnIt]

 

[wi_racefan]

I finally got to watch the race this morning. I'll give it to Tyler for laying it on the field.

Other than that it was really ugly....
One caution for incident, which was a tire falling off, and the racing through the field wasn't good at all.

Nascar needs to give up on this one, place doesn't put on a good show with this car. The car/hp/aero package didnt produce anything. Not to mention that this place has wayyyyy to much run off room that cars don't hit anything.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Not to mention that this place has wayyyyy to much run off room that cars don't hit anything.

I regard cars not hitting anything as good. Better than watching yellow flag laps.

 

[wi_racefan]

I regard cars not hitting anything as good. Better than watching yellow flag laps.

But theres no penalty for blowing a corner or someone getting knocked off track. Everything is paved, you might as well setup a course in the Walmart parking lot

 

[Charlie Spencer]

But theres no penalty for blowing a corner or someone getting knocked off track.

Loss of time and position.

 

[wi_racefan]

Loss of time and position.

Very little in the grand scheme

 

[StandOnIt]

But theres no penalty for blowing a corner or someone getting knocked off track. Everything is paved, you might as well setup a course in the Walmart parking lot

I thought it was racing, not penalizing. Less cautions this year mean more racing BTW no matter what track it happens at.

 

[wi_racefan]

I thought it was racing, not penalizing. Less cautions this year mean more racing BTW no matter what track it happens at.

Yeah but there should also be a reward for keeping it on track all day.

 

[StandOnIt]

Yeah but there should also be a reward for keeping it on track all day.

Seems like those that do stay on the track go faster than those that don't.

 

[StandOnIt]

 

[Charlie Spencer]

Very little in the grand scheme

An accident-spawned yellow penalizes more than the car involved. Drivers lose their separation from the car behind them. Pit strategies are tossed aside. Other cars could be hit when the in-the-wall car rebounds. And cautions breed cautions, causing further disruption.

If you don't think lost time is enough penalty for going off course, are you saying only a damaged car is sufficient?

 

[StandOnIt]

An accident-spawned yellow penalizes more than the car involved. Drivers lose their separation from the car behind them. Pit strategies are tossed aside. Other cars could be hit when the in-the-wall car rebounds. And cautions breed cautions, causing further disruption.

If you don't think lost time is enough penalty for going off course, are you saying only a damaged car is sufficient?

I think he will drop the hammer next and call for full on race council or whatever they call those glorified crossing guards who are up in the booth calling balls and strikes and screwing up more than they fix.

 

[Marcingak]

Thanks for this. Very informative. I had no idea that some drivers, like Ricky Stenhouse Jr, don't use cool suits at all. Makes me respect him more.

 

[StandOnIt]

Thanks for this. Very informative. I had no idea that some drivers, like Ricky Stenhouse Jr, don't use cool suits at all. Makes me respect him more.

I definitely think Nascar needs to put their foot down on teams cutting corners with the driver's cool suits. They are always talking about safety and this is a loose end IMO.

 

[wi_racefan]

I kind of figured that the reason that most of them were failing was because teams were monkeying with them. If the system was just bad another manufacturer would have stepped up and made them.

So many drivers have trained for heat. I thought I remember back in the day Carl wasn't even running a helmet blower? He just had a couple ducts blowing on his body and he was good.