Cup RACE thread: Martinsville

StandOnIt said:
This clown car will continue to go around in circles. Nobody is going to be happy with whatever they do. Some are actually starting to see that their clown show playoff system is ripe for cheating and unfairness just like all of the other versions have been. This one is the worst.
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OK Stan - I will bite here as much as I may regret it. I have been bitching about this format for a while saying the old would be better now that the competition is so much closer and the cars so much more reliable which everyone seems to disagree with and that's fine but how would you fix this? What system would work in your view? I like the idea of straight up points all year with 15-25 bonus points for wins and setting the 16 that way with maybe a wild card of some type for most winds outside of the top 15 and then having the rounds they have now with no win and advance BS. You could also keep stage points and give like 5 bonus points for stage wins but no stupid playoff points that carry all the way through. I hate that crap - Even when it benefited my driver in 2022.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
My only issue with Larson fans is comments like that right there. Larson has been better yes but he's been better than everyone, not just Chase and Chase is not as "distant" as people think. Considering everything that has gone wrong for him in that this new car just does not suit his style like the old did and the injury and having a crew chief that makes puzzling at best calls I think it's pretty amazing how well Chase is doing. Yes the wins and stage wins are lacking but those come when you have that raw speed and the CC is making the right calls too and more often than not AG misses them. Larson has supreme talent AND a top notch crew chief. Larson also makes a lot of head scratching mistakes that a driver of his level simply should not make and I'd like to see one Larson fan throw some criticism at him for it but none seem to.
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ive criticized him on here before, check my history during race threads. I also havent been able to watch many races live recently to keep up with the threads so if you're going to check its probably earlier in the season until about September. You're painting broad strokes with the paint brush, I have criticized him before for making a move that didnt work out and ends up in calamity.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
See right there tough "he's the best in the biz." Larson fans say that so much and nothing deters them form that. To be clear, I am not necessarily disagreeing on that but at what point to we start to question this? He sure seems to wreck a lot of his own making for being as good as he is I will say that. Also - he needs to learn where the line is. If he does not spin out racing for the lead at Homestead he's in the final 4. No need to push that hard. If he is as good as everyone says he should know EXACTLY where that line is and stop crossing it so much. Again - don't get me wrong - I think he's the best too but at some point he needs to learn this. He is "prime" diving age where he should know where that line is.
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This is all subjective honestly. Some might think Christopher Bell is worth the price of a ticket... or Tyler Reddick...or Chase Elliott...or William Byron... or Ryan Blaney.. or Joey Logano... or Melon Man..........and thats fine. I just happen to think Larson right now is the best, but any of those drivers are great at what they do. I honestly just think you dont like Larson and kind of wish you'd put your cards on the table, which again is fine. Your constant back handed praise is confusing at best.
 
Chase Fan 79 said:
My only issue with Larson fans is comments like that right there. Larson has been better yes but he's been better than everyone, not just Chase and Chase is not as "distant" as people think. Considering everything that has gone wrong for him in that this new car just does not suit his style like the old did and the injury and having a crew chief that makes puzzling at best calls I think it's pretty amazing how well Chase is doing. Yes the wins and stage wins are lacking but those come when you have that raw speed and the CC is making the right calls too and more often than not AG misses them. Larson has supreme talent AND a top notch crew chief. Larson also makes a lot of head scratching mistakes that a driver of his level simply should not make and I'd like to see one Larson fan throw some criticism at him for it but none seem to.
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Here's some criticism right from me:

From July 2 of this year my response to Spotter:
Spotter22 said:
To be honest the " ran out of talent" remarks are what kept this going. Watermelon and Denny both have crashed people trying to win a race. That's racin!
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I feel you there. Folks jump to that phrase way too much when in reality when it was said about that driver originally, had marginal talent at best. To phrase that driver and Kyle Larson in the same put down is humorous but yea I just kind of thought it was a racing deal myself when it happened. Unfortunate and wish he wouldn't do that sometimes but yah he wiped himself out and another good car that had a shot to win.

Also from July 2 of this year:
Formerjackman said:
It seems odd that the world's greatest driver seems to lead his four car team in unforced errors. The primary reason Kyle Larson doesn't win twice as many races is Kyle Larson.
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As a Larson fan, I don’t find this take too inflammatory. Larson does make his fair share of mistakes, sometimes costing himself and other drivers on the track as well. I think Sunday was a good example of that, unfortunately. Still think he’s in one of the top 1% of motorsports drivers across the entire sport though.

I hope that fits your criteria for Kyle Larson Criticism from one of the board's 5 fans . I looked it up so you dont have to, and I'll try to look up more when work commitments ease up.
 
Jorge De Guzman said:
ive criticized him on here before, check my history during race threads. I also havent been able to watch many races live recently to keep up with the threads so if you're going to check its probably earlier in the season until about September. You're painting broad strokes with the paint brush, I have criticized him before for making a move that didnt work out and ends up in calamity.
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I'll take your word for it. LOL. You are right though - I am painting broad strokes here and nothing I say is meant to be taken as "for all."
 
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