Cup RACE thread --- Sonoma

FearThe4 said:
well true i doubt he really care how boring it is to us lol I know i would prob feel the same way if i was winning them.
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I would’ve liked to have seen strategies that didn’t involve fake yellow stage breaks.
Not sure if there would’ve been a different winner but I’m not a fan of timed cautions.
 
Some were racing for the win and some were racing for points. I believe they do stuff like that. It's called racing.
 
StandOnIt said:
Some were racing for the win and some were racing for points. I believe they do stuff like that. It's called racing.
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I could definitely do without winning and earning the most points being mutually exclusive objectives. Somehow I watch a ton of other racing series that haven't created that dilemma. I enjoyed the race, would have liked it more if the #11 and #24 were focused on finishing up front at the end, not at the halfway point. That's just me.
 
gnomesayin said:
I could definitely do without winning and earning the most points being mutually exclusive objectives. Somehow I watch a ton of other racing series that haven't created that dilemma. I enjoyed the race, would have liked it more if the #11 and #24 were focused on finishing up front at the end, not at the halfway point. That's just me.
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The prize should come at the end of the race, not the first 20 laps.
 
gnomesayin said:
I could definitely do without winning and earning the most points being mutually exclusive objectives. Somehow I watch a ton of other racing series that haven't created that dilemma. I enjoyed the race, would have liked it more if the #11 and #24 were focused on finishing up front at the end, not at the halfway point. That's just me.
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Jus sayin. It is the way it is set up and that is how the teams did it. Let the toxic comments fall where they may, ain't going to change a dam thing except to hear their heads rattle.
 
StandOnIt said:
Some were racing for the win and some were racing for points. I believe they do stuff like that. It's called racing.
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The winner should get the most points, NASCAR made a mess out of racing. Next we will have teams going all out for stage one points and then packing up and going home.
 
I've always liked the top 5 getting stage points, 50 for race winner, 39 for 2nd... on down.

The race winner would earn the most points that way.
 
ToyYoda said:
Overall I don’t have a big problem with this points system, but the 19th place guy getting the 5th most points is a little messed up.
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yep it only works like that I believe when they are at a road course. Some are racing for points and some are trying to be in a good spot for the last stage. Of course a caution could have shook the whole house of cards up, but it didn't happen. These guys are getting too good to make many mistakes. Last year Harvick's team screwed the pooch, and Busch tried to do it to Truex this year, but they were ready for him.
 
ToyYoda said:
Overall I don’t have a big problem with this points system, but the 19th place guy getting the 5th most points is a little messed up.
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My opinion from the start has been that it is an entirely messed up construct, but that it's easy to ignore the flaws with most of the oval races because the points results aren't usually that far off what makes sense, and it does create the effect of intensifying the first half of the race. At road courses the problems are far more glaring.
 
gnomesayin said:
My opinion from the start has been that it is an entirely messed up construct, but that it's easy to ignore the flaws with most of the oval races because the points results aren't usually that far off what makes sense, and it does create the effect of intensifying the first half of the race. At road courses the problems are far more glaring.
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Pocono and Indianapolis as well.
 
ToyYoda said:
Overall I don’t have a big problem with this points system, but the 19th place guy getting the 5th most points is a little messed up.
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Many times this year and last year a driver or drivers have scored more points than the winner due to stage points.

Theres a podcast I listen to that highlights this every week and it’s hilarious.
 
FearThe4 said:
it don't really matter what they run aslong as they have stage yellows on road couses it gonna ruin the whole flow of the race.
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I agree with that. I'm neutral on the Carousel or the Chute here, but the Boot would be more of the slower, technical Sonoma-type racing that would detract from what Watkins Glen currently is for NASCAR - quick as hell and right on the edge.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I agree with that. I'm neutral on the Carousel or the Chute here, but the Boot would be more of the slower, technical Sonoma-type racing that would detract from what Watkins Glen currently is for NASCAR - quick as hell and right on the edge.
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Watkins Glen should be the superspeedway of road courses which is kinda what I think of it
 
Looked for *KB ice bag pull-over dumping incident*, but nada.

Maybe he gets a tad closer to Truex?
 
FLRacingFan said:
I agree with that. I'm neutral on the Carousel or the Chute here, but the Boot would be more of the slower, technical Sonoma-type racing that would detract from what Watkins Glen currently is for NASCAR - quick as hell and right on the edge.
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Watkins Glen is the perfect setup for NASCAR. The cars really flow around the layout. As a result you get legit speed, some rubbing and usually a spectacular crash. The three things that sell...
 
Bonehead Award: Sonoma -- Chad Knaus

He took a top car capable of winning that race and instead went for points and handed his driver a 19th place finish.

Byron drove away from the field in Stage 1 proving car and driver were ready to step up for a realistic shot at the Win. But instead of keeping Byron at the front for Stage 2 and forcing other cars to beat him, Chad "managed" that race to grab points even though the speed and talent were there to stay up front and challenge for a Win.

I can understand if the car or driver aren't performing for a run at the Win -- then it makes more sense to grab points. But at some point he's got to turn Byron loose to dominate the race -- especially when he starts upfront and drives away from the competition from the get-go.

Jimmie and Chad may both need to move aside and let the youth movement thru.
 
Sonoma is fabulous. Could sit and watch them burn out of one bang the gears down to second, and pop her into first on exit of two, then wait for 'em to swing into 6a, and launch out of 6b all damn day. The sound of a NASCAR motor at idle compared to the sound pulling up the hill is absolutely indescribable. Those motors are meant to pull. Just fabulous.

Road courses are meant to be run without yellows. Sunday was perfect. This track treats people right.
 
Ventisca said:
Bonehead Award: Sonoma -- Chad Knaus

He took a top car capable of winning that race and instead went for points and handed his driver a 19th place finish.

Byron drove away from the field in Stage 1 proving car and driver were ready to step up for a realistic shot at the Win. But instead of keeping Byron at the front for Stage 2 and forcing other cars to beat him, Chad "managed" that race to grab points even though the speed and talent were there to stay up front and challenge for a Win.

I can understand if the car or driver aren't performing for a run at the Win -- then it makes more sense to grab points. But at some point he's got to turn Byron loose to dominate the race -- especially when he starts upfront and drives away from the competition from the get-go.

Jimmie and Chad may both need to move aside and let the youth movement thru.
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Disagree, they got the 5th amount of points at Sonoma and increased the advantage on 17th. Hindsight is 20/20 but they had a good day still.
 
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