Cup RACE thread --- Texas

ChexOrWrex said:
Outside of a down pour in baseball and golf, NASCAR is the only major American sport to not “play” in the rain. Granted, it’s the only major sport with 30+ 3,000 pound race cars BUT it’s a little befuddling that NASCAR can’t even race in what amount to low cloud cover mist.
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NASCAR shouldn't be compared to "major American sports". Thinking of it that way is what got us all of the playoffs nonsense. It's auto racing on ovals, and no major version of that has ever proceeded through rain. If they can figure out how to do it without calamity, that's fine. But it shouldn't be the goal because football.
 
From the official’s scanner: Mist stopped in 3 & 4 and the track is starting to turn gray. However it is still misting in 1 & 2
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Any stupid press they can get about their illogical points format, the better.
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It will do nothing productive for the sport. All it will do is take a title away from someone who deserves it, NASCAR's tainted image won't worsen, and if it does, it probably won't be enough to move the needle towards change. I think you're just being cynical ;)

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gnomesayin said:
NASCAR shouldn't be compared to "major American sports". Thinking of it that way is what got us all of the playoffs nonsense. It's auto racing on ovals, and no major version of that has ever proceeded through rain. If they can figure out how to do it without calamity, that's fine. But it shouldn't be the goal because football.
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I’m all for NASCAR throwing oogles of money at R&D to find a way to race in light rain conditions or in low cloud/mist like today. Heavier rain? Understandably and physically dangerous, plus it would not create an enjoyable product.

But I’ve never been a fan of sticking to your guns because “it’s always been this way”. Nah, the world changes. To basically be the only sport that shys away from continuing the entertainment for hours due to mist, is pretty disappointing.
 
What happens if this race gets postponed until Friday? That is the next day where there is no rain forecasted
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I’m all for NASCAR throwing oogles of money at R&D to find a way to race in light rain conditions or in low cloud/mist like today. Heavier rain? Understandably and physically dangerous, plus it would not create an enjoyable product.

But I’ve never been a fan of sticking to your guns because “it’s always been this way”. Nah, the world changes. To basically be the only sport that shys away from continuing the entertainment for hours due to mist, is pretty disappointing.
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I'm in favor of them figuring it out if it maintains the integrity of the event. I don't think they should rush to do so.
 
Track weather, updated hourly: https://airdensityonline.com/track-results/Texas_Motor_Speedway/

(18:30 local time)

temperature = 53.51 deg f
relative humidity = 100 %
uncorrected barometer* = 29.19 inHg
corrected barometer* = 29.88 inHg
wind speed = 5.17 mph
wind direction* = NE (66°)
more info: current metric | historical | forecast | help
dew point = 53 deg f
saturation pressure = 0.413 inHg
vapor pressure = 0.413 inHg
grains = 62.4
air density (w/o water vapor) = 99%
air density (w water vapor) = 97%
density altitude = 904.47 ft
 
I don't see them getting to halfway, even tonight. Tomorrow is 70% chance of the same thing we have now, with "high" at 7AM and dropping into the 40's through the day.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
I’m all for NASCAR throwing oogles of money at R&D to find a way to race in light rain conditions or in low cloud/mist like today. Heavier rain? Understandably and physically dangerous, plus it would not create an enjoyable product.

But I’ve never been a fan of sticking to your guns because “it’s always been this way”. Nah, the world changes. To basically be the only sport that shys away from continuing the entertainment for hours due to mist, is pretty disappointing.
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did you ever consider what NASCUR's insurance coverage stipulates ???
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Decision coming from NASCAR in about a half hour. Which tells me postponed.

I don't get it. They have lights, stay there until you run the race. I saw a Daytona race end at 3am a few years ago.
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Some tracks (cities) have earlier curfews. There are tracks by me that have 11pm curfews, some with midnight curfews, some 3am curfews, others that have no curfews. Plus this decision probably comes partly from NBC too depending upon their other sports commitments
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Decision coming from NASCAR in about a half hour. Which tells me postponed.

I don't get it. They have lights, stay there until you run the race. I saw a Daytona race end at 3am a few years ago.
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I'm -guessing- they think they can't dry the track. But they have to wait until the Kansas replay is finished :rolleyes:
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Huh? What kind of coverage are you talking about?
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like all large corporations they carry insurance for just about everything.....from someone slipping in the bathroom to a car going into the stands......but just like your homeowners policy , there are stipulations on what they can or must do.....
 
saltysenior said:
like all large corporations they carry insurance for just about everything.....from someone slipping in the bathroom to a car going into the stands......but just like your homeowners policy , there are stipulations on what they can or must do.....
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So what's that have to do with racing on rain tires? They've done that several times, as recently as two weeks ago.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
So what's that have to do with racing on rain tires? They've done that several times, as recently as two weeks ago.
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That was on a road course. Ovals in rain are a complete unknown and it would be like a car insurance company insuring a 12 year old driver with no experience
 
RacerrecaR said:
That was on a road course. Ovals in rain are a complete unknown and it would be like a car insurance company insuring a 12 year old driver with no experience
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Do you honestly think NASCAR or the tracks have insurance stipulations regarding racing in the rain, regardless of track layout? Who exactly does this mythical policy protect, the drivers?

:XXROFL:
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Do you honestly think NASCAR or the tracks have insurance stipulations regarding racing in the rain, regardless of track layout?
:XXROFL:
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Yes I do believe it is a possibility, if nothing else for track worker safety (visibility)
 
Tomorrow 10AM EST NBCSN

Jeebus, that's 8am, I am just taking my kid to school.
 
Race track is junked.

Official: Postponed until tomorrow at 9:00 am CST.
 
RacerrecaR said:
Yes I do believe it is a possibility, if nothing else for track worker safety (visibility)
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Track worker safety and visibility are probably more of an issue on road courses with their blind turns than on ovals. Did you see Mid Ohio a few years ago, or Charlotte last month? The cars could hardly see each other.
 
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