Darlington Bonehead

Hamlin for throwing away an easy win
 
JJ_14 said:
;):DI'll nominate Denny's pit crew, them screwing Hamlin out of a win has become the norm. I kind of want to see him get that elusive first title, but man, the mistakes have to stop.
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It’s the playoffs. Like I said for him before, teamwork. Especially now in the playoffs if he doesn’t **** up they will. Amazing teamwork making sure at least one of them always does. 👍👍 :D
 
Conover said:
This race needs a full podium of representatives. My vote:

Gold - Bowman
Silver - Reddick
Bronze - Hambone
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Honorable mention the 19. Harvick rounds out the top 5 for not rolling on by his pit stall under the cation.
 
Reddick.

Killed his own shot at winning, handed the win to the 5 and killed Harvick's day.

Bowman was just a child.

But Reddick ****** everyone's day, and then un fudged Larsons day.

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harvick or his crew
dennis crew again for doing some wrong, but cant find it.
48 and the 99 but it doesnt mean anything.
 
Harvick gets an honorable mention. The wreck happened while he was still well behind the pit entrance. He had time to steer out of the pits & into the racetrack. Then, he decides to stop for tires instead of doing a pass through. I really wanted to see him get a win in his final season. His durability as a top driver in the Cup series has been impressive.
 
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The ****** pit crews of MY Toyota teams. I am ****** livid....**** away the race with the fastest cars, and gifted Larson--who doesn't need a gift--a win. Figure it ****** out.
 
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The only way Hamlin was the bonehead is if you believe there was nothing wrong with the car. Only Dennis knows the answer to that. I would say Harvick wasn't the bonehead, that was Childers' call to make not to stop in the pits. I have no earthly clue why that call wasn't made. I agree Kevin should have known better too, but it's not his call. I will not defend that jackass double block move Bowman pulled, but the decision to wreck Alex, himself, and several other cars rests squarely with Suarez.
 
Formerjackman said:
The only way Hamlin was the bonehead is if you believe there was nothing wrong with the car.
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I couldn't give a **** if there was something wrong with the wheel or Denny shat himself. Another win thrown away. It's getting ****** old. TRD busts their asses to give them a car....they have done that, and MY teams can't do **** with the best car in the field.
 
Revman said:
I couldn't give a **** if there was something wrong with the wheel or Denny shat himself. Another win thrown away. It's getting ****** old. TRD busts their asses to give them a car....they have done that, and MY teams can't do **** with the best car in the field.
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Why ya didn't sound that way this morning while bragging your ass off, counting your chickens before they hatched lol.
3 Chevys in the top 5 with the winning car.

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Revman said:
I couldn't give a **** if there was something wrong with the wheel or Denny shat himself. Another win thrown away. It's getting ****** old. TRD busts their asses to give them a car....they have done that, and MY teams can't do **** with the best car in the field.
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Without knowing what the problem actually was, how can you blame ANYONE? Perhaps it was a bad tire, or was improperly balanced. This is where you lose me with your delusional level of fandom sometimes. We all have fun around here with opinions, but the only thing that actually matters is FACTS, and in this case, we don't have any yet, if we EVER do.
 
I have to give the nod to stopping in the middle of the track for a pit entry there's zero chance of making.

Think about if Ryan Newman (or anybody) hadn't been behind Reddick. Even just slowing down the way he did, he would have thrown their lead away, because not only would the 4 have made up time on the 45 from the undercut pit strategy, but then Reddick cost them probably at least a second with that move anyway.

If Newman hadn't come sliding up behind the 45, would the 45 have continued to slow down even more, even attempting to pull down and make the commitment cone, more than likely missing it in the process and then losing a ton of time? We'll never know. But either way, that move was a costly error.

Bowman is a close second.
 
Pat said:
Harvick
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Why? No way he could have turned back right without a commitment cone violation, and then they were going to start at the tail end anyway so why roll through pit road and then have the pit again for tires anyway? And then you're pitting with other cars where a collision is possible versus totally on your own.
 
StandOnIt said:
Why ya didn't sound that way this morning while bragging your ass off, counting your chickens before they hatched lol.
3 Chevys in the top 5 with the winning car.

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I celebrated the speed WE brought. WE handed Chevy what they got, and yeah, WE just might live to regret it. I'm a TRD/Toyota fan. WE did our part.
 
cheesepuffs said:
I have to give the nod to stopping in the middle of the track for a pit entry there's zero chance of making.

Think about if Ryan Newman (or anybody) hadn't been behind Reddick. Even just slowing down the way he did, he would have thrown their lead away, because not only would the 4 have made up time on the 45 from the undercut pit strategy, but then Reddick cost them probably at least a second with that move anyway.

If Newman hadn't come sliding up behind the 45, would the 45 have continued to slow down even more, even attempting to pull down and make the commitment cone, more than likely missing it in the process and then losing a ton of time? We'll never know. But either way, that move was a costly error.

Bowman is a close second.
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Sometimes, I can't figure Reddick out.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Do you feel like pit crews are Toyota's biggest weakness right now?
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100000000000000000000000%. Absolutely horrible. In this format, it will kill you. I am proud, however, of the speed. I feel like WE have the best cars in a quasi-spec series, and that is saying something. Hendrick has the best crews, and I don't think it is close.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Why? No way he could have turned back right without a commitment cone violation, and then they were going to start at the tail end anyway so why roll through pit road and then have the pit again for tires anyway? And then you're pitting with other cars where a collision is possible versus totally on your own.
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The difference was starting at the tail end of the lead lap cars, and perhaps not even that far back, being Harvick was at the front, he may have STILL have blended back in front of some of them, VS tail end of the longest line. If I'm making that pit call, I roll through and come back around.
 
Formerjackman said:
Without knowing what the problem actually was, how can you blame ANYONE? Perhaps it was a bad tire, or was improperly balanced. This is where you lose me with your delusional level of fandom sometimes. We all have fun around here with opinions, but the only thing that actually matters is FACTS, and in this case, we don't have any yet, if we EVER do.
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Again, I don't care who is at fault. When you are given the car to win, you need to ****** win. This has happened way too many times.

We do have fun with opinions, but more often than not, those opinions are confused as statements of fact. The facts here are that somebody ****** up, and I am over it because it has happened too many times. In a quasi-spec series, it is rare to get an advantage such as what WE have. When you have that advantage, you absolutely cannot let a talent like Larson steal one because he will take many on his own ability. This is a recipe for getting your ass kicked....and WE did. I like being a delusional fan. I really do. Balances out the real **** in my life when I have to act like a grown up. I am off today, and I plan to sulk.
 
Revman said:
I celebrated the speed WE brought. WE handed Chevy what they got, and yeah, WE just might live to regret it. I'm a TRD/Toyota fan. WE did our part.
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There was no "we" to it. Nah, you bragged YOUR ass off and ya FAFO lol.
 
Revman said:
Again, I don't care who is at fault. When you are given the car to win, you need to ****** win. This has happened way too many times.

We do have fun with opinions, but more often than not, those opinions are confused as statements of fact. The facts here are that somebody ****** up, and I am over it because it has happened too many times. In a quasi-spec series, it is rare to get an advantage such as what WE have. When you have that advantage, you absolutely cannot let a talent like Larson steal one because he will take many on his own ability. This is a recipe for getting your ass kicked....and WE did. I like being a delusional fan. I really do. Balances out the real **** in my life when I have to act like a grown up. I am off today, and I plan to sulk.
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The rice burners don't have the advantage. They might hit the setup, but they like everybody else have to run the race.
 
Revman said:
I couldn't give a **** if there was something wrong with the wheel or Denny shat himself. Another win thrown away. It's getting ****** old. TRD busts their asses to give them a car....they have done that, and MY teams can't do **** with the best car in the field.
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I think it's more on the 11 than the 45. Yeah, 45's issue gave Larson the lead, but if Larson didn't hit the wall and have the shifter issue, he assumes control of the race, instead of Reddick.

Not sure if this is what you're saying, but the 11 was the only Toyota who should have won today, mistakes aside.

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Revman said:
Sometimes, I can't figure Reddick out.
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Reddick has made mistakes all his career.

He and Larson were equally fast last night, and I absolutely new Larson had it wrapped up just because Reddick is too mistake prone.


His pit decision was the bonehead of the race, imo.

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Revman said:
Again, I don't care who is at fault. When you are given the car to win, you need to ****** win. This has happened way too many times.

We do have fun with opinions, but more often than not, those opinions are confused as statements of fact. The facts here are that somebody ****** up, and I am over it because it has happened too many times. In a quasi-spec series, it is rare to get an advantage such as what WE have. When you have that advantage, you absolutely cannot let a talent like Larson steal one because he will take many on his own ability. This is a recipe for getting your ass kicked....and WE did. I like being a delusional fan. I really do. Balances out the real **** in my life when I have to act like a grown up. I am off today, and I plan to sulk.
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The irony is that this is actually an extremely level headed comment lol

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Shoulda coulda B.S. I would like to have had a camera on the old 20 team that got Bell into the playoffs and got dumped. That is only a move that should be done in the most extreme circumstances. It is terrible for the whole company morale. And then Bell beat himself, nobody put him into the wall.
 
Bowman and Suarez, by far.

Both got hot under the collar and killed their own races, Bowman had excellent long run speed after coming back from a lap down.
 
Apparently Reddick's CC made the call to pit road late.

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