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Saturday, 06 July 2013

Matt Kenseth 10-1
Kevin Harvick 13-1
Jimmie Johnson 13-1
Tony Stewart 13-1
Kyle Busch 13-1
Dale Earnhardt Jr. 13-1
Jeff Gordon 16-1
Kasey Kahne 16-1
Clint Bowyer 16-1
Brad Keselowski 39-2
Carl Edwards 39-2
Kurt Busch 39-2
Denny Hamlin 22-1
Martin Truex Jr. 22-1
Greg Biffle 22-1
Jeff Burton 27-1
Jamie McMurray 27-1
Joey Logano 27-1
Ryan Newman 33-1
Juan Montoya 33-1
Michael Waltrip 33-1
Marcos Ambrose 45-1
Paul Menard 45-1
Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 45-1
 
Thursday
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Partly cloudy with thunderstorms and rain showers. High of 88F. Breezy. Winds from the SE at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
Thursday Night
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Partly cloudy with a chance of rain. Low of 75F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20%.

Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point 78 | 72 85 | 72 78 | 72 76 | 72
Wind 7 mph ESE 15 mph SE 13 mph SE 5 mph SE
Humidity 85% 63% 76% 81%
Chance of Precip. 20% 20% 20% 20%
Cloud Cover 60% 48% 44% 35%
Conditions Rain Showers Thunderstorm Thunderstorm Chance of Rain
Sunrise & Sunset
6:29 AM
8:27 PM
 
Friday
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain. High of 88F. Breezy. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 20 mph with gusts to 30 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
Friday Night
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain, then a chance of rain after midnight. Low of 75F. Winds from the ESE at 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20%.

Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point 76 | 72 84 | 72 78 | 72 78 | 72
Wind 6 mph ESE 15 mph ESE 15 mph ESE 6 mph ESE
Humidity 84% 65% 80% 81%
Chance of Precip. 20% 20% 20% 20%
Cloud Cover 35% 45% 51% 40%
Conditions Chance of Rain Chance of a Thunderstorm Chance of a Thunderstorm Chance of Rain
Sunrise & Sunset
6:30 AM
8:27
 
Descriptive Forecast
Saturday
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Partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and a chance of rain. High of 90F. Winds from the ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20%.
Saturday Night
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Partly cloudy in the evening, then clear. Low of 75F. Winds from the SE at 5 to 15 mph.

Hourly Forecast6AM12 Noon6PM12 Midnight
Temp. | Dew Point 76 | 73 85 | 72 82 | 72 79 | 73
Wind 5 mph ESE 12 mph ESE 13 mph ESE 10 mph SE
Humidity 89% 64% 69% 84%
Chance of Precip. 20% 20% 20% 10%
Cloud Cover 40% 51% 51% 9%
Conditions Chance of Rain Chance of a Thunderstorm Chance of a Thunderstorm Clear
Sunrise & Sunset
6:30 AM
8:27 PM
 
Ive read a few that have different odds for a lot of drivers.

MATT KENSETH 8-1
DALE EARNHARDT JR 10-1
KEVIN HARVICK 12-1
KYLE BUSCH 12-1
JIMMIE JOHNSON 12-1
CLINT BOWYER 15-1
KASEY KAHNE 15-1
JEFF GORDON 15-1
TONY STEWART 15-1
BRAD KESELOWSKI 18-1
DENNY HAMLIN 18-1
CARL EDWARDS 18-1
MARTIN TRUEX JR 18-1
KURT BUSCH 18-1
GREG BIFFLE 20-1
JOEY LOGANO 25-1
JAMIE McMURRAY 25-1
JEFF BURTON 30-1
PAUL MENARD 30-1
RYAN NEWMAN 30-1
JUAN MONTOYA 30-1
DANICA PATRICK 30-1
MICHAEL WALTRIP 30-1
MARCOS AMBROSE 40-1
RICKY STENHOUSE JR 40 -1
ARIC ALMIROLA 50-1
TREVOR BAYNE 50-1
DAVID GILLILAND 75-1
DAVID RAGAN 75-1
AJ ALLMENDINGER 75-1
BOBBY LABONTE 100-1
DAVE BLANEY 200-1
TRAVIS KVAPIL 200-1
FIELD 30-1

I have a feeling it'll be a 25/1 driver... or... 27/1 on urs :p Aaaand now we wait... try not to rock the boat ;)
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Ive read a few that have different odds for a lot of drivers.

MATT KENSETH 8-1
DALE EARNHARDT JR 10-1
KEVIN HARVICK 12-1
KYLE BUSCH 12-1
JIMMIE JOHNSON 12-1
CLINT BOWYER 15-1
KASEY KAHNE 15-1
JEFF GORDON 15-1
TONY STEWART 15-1
BRAD KESELOWSKI 18-1
DENNY HAMLIN 18-1
CARL EDWARDS 18-1
MARTIN TRUEX JR 18-1
KURT BUSCH 18-1
GREG BIFFLE 20-1
JOEY LOGANO 25-1
JAMIE McMURRAY 25-1
JEFF BURTON 30-1
PAUL MENARD 30-1
RYAN NEWMAN 30-1
JUAN MONTOYA 30-1
DANICA PATRICK 30-1
MICHAEL WALTRIP 30-1
MARCOS AMBROSE 40-1
RICKY STENHOUSE JR 40 -1
ARIC ALMIROLA 50-1
TREVOR BAYNE 50-1
DAVID GILLILAND 75-1
DAVID RAGAN 75-1
AJ ALLMENDINGER 75-1
BOBBY LABONTE 100-1
DAVE BLANEY 200-1
TRAVIS KVAPIL 200-1
FIELD 30-1

I have a feeling it'll be a 25/1 driver... or... 27/1 on urs :p Aaaand now we wait... try not to rock the boat ;)
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The odds are set by oddsmakers that go by the bets being placed up to the time they were posted, thats why there will most always be a difference, besides this is Daytona and nobody has a clue who will win. :D
 
THURSDAY, JULY 4

ON TRACK
-- 2:30 p.m.-3:50 p.m., NASCAR Nationwide Series practice, SPEED (Follow live)
-- 4 p.m.-5:20 p.m., NASCAR Sprint Cup Series practice, SPEED (Follow live)
-- 5:30 p.m.-6:25 p.m., NASCAR Nationwide Series final practice, SPEED (Follow live)
-- 6:35 p.m.-8 p.m., NASCAR Sprint Cup Series final practice, SPEED (Follow live)

PRESS CONFERENCESWATCH LIVE-- 1:45 p.m. -- Matt Kenseth
-- 2:30 p.m. -- Danica Patrick
-- 3 p.m. -- Jimmie Johnson

GARAGECAM
WATCH LIVE
-- Nationwide: 2 p.m.
-- Sprint Cup, 3:30 p.m.
FRIDAY, JULY 5

ON TRACK
-- 2:05 p.m. – NASCAR Nationwide Series qualifying (2 laps), ESPN2 (Follow live)
-- 4:10 p.m. – NASCAR Sprint Cup Series qualifying (2 laps), SPEED (Follow live)
-- 7:30 p.m. – Subway Firecracker 250 powered by Coca-Cola (100 laps, 250 miles), ESPN (Follow live)
PRESS CONFERENCES
WATCH LIVE-- 3 p.m. -- Tony Stewart
-- 6:30 p.m. -- Sprint Cup post-qualifying news conferences
-- 9:30 p.m. -- Nationwide post-race news conferences
SATURDAY, JULY 6

ON TRACK
-- 7:30 p.m. ET – Coke Zero 400 powered by Coca-Cola (160 laps, 400 miles), TNT (Follow live)

PRESS CONFERENCES
WATCH LIVE
-- 3 p.m.: Squier-Hall Media Award announcement
-- 3:30 p.m. -- Alyssa Milano
-- 3:45 p.m. -- Sheryl Crow
-- 5 p.m. -- Coke Zero 400 Grand Marshals; "Grown Up 2" stars Adam Sandler, Kevin James, Shaquille O'Neal
-- 10:30 p.m. -- Sprint Cup post-race news conferences
 
KevinWI said:
I'm just amazed she managed to pose the exact same way for each shirt style for each different driver! That's the mark of a true professional!
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Yeah, if she ever give up acting / modeling, she can make a great living with her crazy mad PhotoShop skills.

Odds? They're just a tool for bookmakers to keep the betting even. In reality, it's a plate track; everybody is 43:1.
 
Teams with altered roof flap spacers, from Jayski.

http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm said:
Teams found with modified roof flap spacers: Sixteen teams found to have modified roof flap spacers (lighter) during NASCAR inspection. Teams listed: #1-McMurray, #2-Keselowski, #9-Ambrose, #11-Hamlin, #13-Mears, #15-Bowyer, #16-Biffle, #17-Stenhouse Jr., #18-Busch, #20-Kenseth, #21-Bayne, #22-Logano, #43-Almirola, #55-Waltrip, #56-Truex Jr. and #99-Edwards. The modified/confiscated roof-flap spacers are on display at Daytona in the NASCAR hauler. NASCAR's Kerry Tharp addressed media on confiscated roof-flap spacers - "Spacers not in compliance with those kits." The roof-flap kits are supplied to teams for #NASCAR by one company (a Roush company) and are not to be changed.(SPEED's, Dustin Long Fox/NASCAR on Twitter & ), no word on penalties, etc.(7-4-2013)
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Fantasy players, be aware if you're in a league that passes on penalties. I expect NASCAR will take a -very- dim view of screwing with the safety equipment. Aren't some of these crew chiefs already on probation?
 
Holy crap, 16 teams may be penalized at once, wonder if that is a record and if it comes out that they were a little high in the back to create downforce, not good news at all. :D
 
Stewart is behind the 8 ball and needs to start cheating.
 
From Jayski

  • Sixteen teams found with modified roof flap spacers: Sixteen teams found to have modified roof flap spacers (lighter) during NASCAR inspection. Teams listed: #1-McMurray, #2-Keselowski, #9-Ambrose, #11-Hamlin, #13-Mears, #15-Bowyer, #16-Biffle, #17-Stenhouse Jr., #18-Busch, #20-Kenseth, #21-Bayne, #22-Logano, #43-Almirola, #55-Waltrip, #56-Truex Jr. and #99-Edwards. The modified/confiscated roof-flap spacers are on display at Daytona in the NASCAR hauler. NASCAR's Kerry Tharp addressed media on confiscated roof-flap spacers - "Spacers not in compliance with those kits." The roof-flap kits are supplied to teams for #NASCAR by one company (a Roush company) and are not to be changed.(SPEED's, Dustin Long Fox/NASCAR on Twitter)
    AND Sixteen cars failed inspection before Thursday's Sprint Cup practice at Daytona International Speedway. NASCAR confiscated the teams' roof flaps, which are designed to keep cars on the ground during spins and wrecks at high speeds, for further inspection. Penalties could be possible. NASCAR inspectors made teams install new, unaltered roof flaps before drivers were allowed on the track for the first of two practices.(Associated Press)(7-4-2013)

Whats funny is the roof flaps are supplied by Roush and yet all the Roush teams got busted.
 
Strike 3 for the #2 team. The fact that 16 other teams got caught in this may save their ass, maybe not.

Meanwhile, the nascar media cue's kez's "Gray area" speech from last year.
 
Now we all know if this was the Hendricks cars all the haters would be commenting !
 
racer8 said:
From Jayski

  • Sixteen teams found with modified roof flap spacers: Sixteen teams found to have modified roof flap spacers (lighter) during NASCAR inspection. Teams listed: #1-McMurray, #2-Keselowski, #9-Ambrose, #11-Hamlin, #13-Mears, #15-Bowyer, #16-Biffle, #17-Stenhouse Jr., #18-Busch, #20-Kenseth, #21-Bayne, #22-Logano, #43-Almirola, #55-Waltrip, #56-Truex Jr. and #99-Edwards. The modified/confiscated roof-flap spacers are on display at Daytona in the NASCAR hauler. NASCAR's Kerry Tharp addressed media on confiscated roof-flap spacers - "Spacers not in compliance with those kits." The roof-flap kits are supplied to teams for #NASCAR by one company (a Roush company) and are not to be changed.(SPEED's, Dustin Long Fox/NASCAR on Twitter)
    AND Sixteen cars failed inspection before Thursday's Sprint Cup practice at Daytona International Speedway. NASCAR confiscated the teams' roof flaps, which are designed to keep cars on the ground during spins and wrecks at high speeds, for further inspection. Penalties could be possible. NASCAR inspectors made teams install new, unaltered roof flaps before drivers were allowed on the track for the first of two practices.(Associated Press)(7-4-2013)
Whats funny is the roof flaps are supplied by Roush and yet all the Roush teams got busted.
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15 NNS teams also busted, same thing.
 
FenderBumper said:
Strike 3 for the #2 team. The fact that 16 other teams got caught in this may save their ass, maybe not.

Meanwhile, the nascar media cue's kez's "Gray area" speech from last year.
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Keselowski's team is the only one that should worry too much.

Only one Chevrolet team. That's interesting.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Keselowski's team is the only one that should worry too much.

Only one Chevrolet team. That's interesting.
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I think it's interesting even one Chevy team buys these parts from Roush. This sounds like the whole JGR/TRD incident, but these teams are even more innocent because they aren't so closely tied to Roush. Now there's 15 NW teams involved, so maybe roush should be the only one penalized.
 
I wonder why McMurray was the only EGR car with the illegal flaps. It looks like every other organization was caught as a whole.
 
Damn, it feels good to be home for a couple of weeks and watching some Nascar again.:partytime
 
1st Waltrip uses jet fuel in his fuel lines & now he's modifying his roof flaps. Someone is under Chad's wing.
 
Sounds like a bad batch of parts. Too many teams involved . And ,if it is , Nascar needs to lighten up . They got themselves into a bad box when they came down on the TRD valves . They can't keep coming down hard on unsuspecting teams who get a bad batch of parts . No need , nothing to be gained.
 
ted@economy said:
Sounds like a bad batch of parts. Too many teams involved . And ,if it is , Nascar needs to lighten up . They got themselves into a bad box when they came down on the TRD valves . They can't keep coming down hard on unsuspecting teams who get a bad batch of parts . No need , nothing to be gained.
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Are you kidding? Git'em nascar, buncha damn cheaters, give'em the maximum, that's what ya'll say if its CK & JJ.
 
One former team manager said teams have been grinding down the spacers with an emphasis of saving weight. Another longstanding challenge is to get as much weight as possible to the bottom of the car to make it more stable in the high banking.
According to NASCAR, the spacers are part of a special kit provided by manufacturers. The spacers “weren’t in compliance with the kits that were provided by the manufacturers,” NASCAR spokesman Kerry Tharp said.


Read more at Jacksonville.com:http://jacksonville.com/sports/racing/2013-07-04/story/daytona-notebook-sixteen-teams-face-penalties-illegal-roof-flap#ixzz2YAxcJFIR
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What I'm getting is that the spacers were all altered in different ways. None of them were the same. So I'm not going to point the finger at the supplier --- I'm going to point the finger at the teams for altering them.

By Stan Creekmore
rpm2night.com editor

While there are still a numerous number of questions to be answer ... one is answered.

NASCAR will make a decision on how much, if any penalty, will be levied against 16 of the 43 teams who unloaded at Daytona International Speedway for the Coke Zero 400 scheduled to be run on Saturday evening.

Penalty, for what? - Parts in the roof which are intended to prevent a car from going airborne when it spins. After talking to several of the teams, it is evident the issue with the pieces which are part of the flapper assembly would not prevent the flap from doing the job. However, the parts seized by NASCAR could, according to one member of team not involved in the issue, be a major help in changing how much air going over the roof of a race car at top speed rolls down the rear window and into the spoiler. If the roof flap raises high enough all the air rolling over the roof would be prevented from hitting the spoiler.

The teams involved, in a list released by NASCAR, include RoushFenway Racing, Penske Racing, Wood Brothers, Petty Motorsports, Joe Gibbs Racing, Michael Waltrip Racing, Earnhardt/Ganassi Racing and Germain Racing. The car numbers are - 16, 17, 99, 2, 22, 9, 43, 21, 11, 18, 20, 15, 55, 56, 1 and 13.

While all of the roof flap assemblies are made by Roush Industries, Roush Industries is not involved in the issue. The parts which come with the flaps for assembly could easily be replaced by the teams during construction of the racecar.
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TexasRaceLady said:
What I'm getting is that the spacers were all altered in different ways. None of them were the same. So I'm not going to point the finger at the supplier --- I'm going to point the finger at the teams for altering them.
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If that's the case, and it sounds like you're right, then there will probably be hell to pay come Tuesday for messing with safety equipment. 31 noncompliance cases at once, gotta be a record.
 
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