Enough Is Enough Full Season Championship.

So far any changes to the playoff and point systems were always announced at the January 'Media Day'. I don't expect to hear anything about the 2026 championship before that.
I would expect Nascar to hold an announcement about the championship format in reserve, in case of adverse news about the 23XI/FRM lawsuit. If Nascar wants to dilute media coverage about the lawsuit, trotting out a new and better championship format would be a useful way to do that.
 
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Here me out here; Chase for the Cup, but instead of 10 races with 10 drivers, we extend it to 36 races and there's no specific amount of drivers eligible and it's just whoever has the most points at the end of race 36 wins.

Wait a second...
Call it the race for the championship this January at Daytona and driver so in so won the championship 36 races later.
 
Here me out here; Chase for the Cup, but instead of 10 races with 10 drivers, we extend it to 36 races and there's no specific amount of drivers eligible and it's just whoever has the most points at the end of race 36 wins.

Wait a second...
Under Brian's leadership that may have been a selling point.

EVERY RACE IS A PLAYOFF RACE!!! Game 7 moments all year long!
 
Here me out here; Chase for the Cup, but instead of 10 races with 10 drivers, we extend it to 36 races and there's no specific amount of drivers eligible and it's just whoever has the most points at the end of race 36 wins.

Wait a second...
After the Daytona 500, cut the field to the top 36 cars. Those cars will compete for the title over the next 35 playoff races.
 
This should be the most no brainer decision NASCAR has ever made. Fans have been screaming to go back to 36 race format since this elimination format first came out and Ryan Newman almost won the championship.
 
After the Daytona 500, cut the field to the top 36 cars. Those cars will compete for the title over the next 35 playoff races.
Let's double down on that idea and go all in on elimination style. Starting at Daytona the last remaining charted car in points is eliminated from contention. Last man standing at Homestead is champion. Royal Rumble style. Just don't wreck in the 500. ;)
 
Despite falling TV ratings and overwhelming support for a 36 race non playoff points system. lol.
Do they have any idea what is going to happen if a driver who is in the playoffs wins with a lesser record? Do they think the majority of fans are going to say oh, that's great, just what we were asking for lol.
 
I don't know why NASCAR continues to pretend it's still considering a full 36-race system. They've released a TV schedule that denotes the playoff races, and they've barred Cup driver from Truck and O'Reilly playoffs. Does the right hand not know what the left is doing?

Next they'll tell us Fido went to live on Grandpa's farm.
 
I don't know why NASCAR continues to pretend it's still considering a full 36-race system. They've released a TV schedule that denotes the playoff races, and they've barred Cup driver from Truck and O'Reilly playoffs. Does the right hand not know what the left is doing?

It seems as though many are thinking (hoping) that the playoff race denotations on the schedule are only there as a placeholder and that NASCAR will maintain the status quo until they announce a format change. Unfortunately the only evidence that supports this theory is that a 3-3-4 playoff system has been the least popular format amongst the fans and industry especially since the finale. Dale Jr also called out the 3-3-4 format on his podcast.

On one hand I struggle to see how NASCAR goes with the option that no one would be happy with based on every poll I've seen. But this is NASCAR and they have an almost uncanny knack for shooting themselves in the foot, especially when it comes to trying to interpret fan reception.
 
It seems as though many are thinking (hoping) that the playoff race denotations on the schedule are only there as a placeholder and that NASCAR will maintain the status quo until they announce a format change. Unfortunately the only evidence that supports this theory ...
Well, there's also the increase in the number of Truck / O'Reilly races Cup drivers are allowed to participate in.

On the one hand, it could be argued that NASCAR would only allow that if there were going to be more races the Cuppers would be eligible for. A non-playoff schedule allows Cupper to run 7 more races in each of those series, so the additional Cup-eligible races aren't as large a percentage of the schedule as it seemed when they were announced.

On the other hand, the lower series teams want to schedule those Cup drivers and sell those sponsorships as soon as possible. Delaying the announcement makes it harder to do that. Potential sponsors may have already signed with someone else for earlier in the season.

Que sera, sera, Doris.
 
Whatever playoff we end up with I just hope they finally get rid of the win and you're in.

I want to see the best 10,12.... whatever guys running for a championship at the end of the season. Not someone finishing 4th in the regular season and not making the playoffs because the 30th place guy backed into one at Daytona
 
Agreed. To be honest I still don’t know why we got rid of the Chase, that was awesome. Edwards/Stewart was the absolute pinnacle
1992 came down to the wire on a 36 race season. As did 2002.

The Chase is a compromise at this point. NASCAR has nothing to lose ending the postseason though.
 
This is all true. The playoff has and will always cater to a lowest denomination
That doesn't mean those other drivers are taking things out of Denny's hands (his words). Dude, it's the format y'all are handed. You can't blame people for taking advantage of the rules. The system doesn't award mediocrity as much as it doesn't award performance.

Sure sounds like sour grapes from here.
 
He does realize with the bigger sample size Kyle still beat him on points? Denny played the system right, they purely just made the wrong pit call at the end.
Dumb Hamcrap whines about his loss, dumps on nearly all drivers claiming they support the one race championship that is so unfair, because HIS GREATNESS lost his in an instant, whereas mediocre drivers win one that way (obvious reference to Logano). Dip$#*+ still hasn’t checked his points I suppose…in any points battle you weren’t even in the race for a championship that day. Says if he had won, he was going to beg Joe to retire. Now says he’s back for one more run at it. Well I hope he one and done, with another strikeout loss to end the career.
 
He does realize with the bigger sample size Kyle still beat him on points? Denny played the system right, they purely just made the wrong pit call at the end.
I don’t think he’s speaking for himself in this instance? I also think your right, 4 tires was the wrong call and at that point it’s on his CC. The GWC to decide races is a whole different rule I’d wish they’d launch but I digress here.
 
That doesn't mean those other drivers are taking things out of Denny's hands (his words). Dude, it's the format y'all are handed. You can't blame people for taking advantage of the rules. The system doesn't award mediocrity as much as it doesn't award performance.

Sure sounds like sour grapes from here.
Just because they’re handed a format doesn’t make it a good one and at the very least doesn’t put it above criticism. They took advantage of $hitty rules, I think that can be up for debate. From what I got from his podcast he’d have an easier time accepting defeat if the sample size was bigger.
 
Just because they’re handed a format doesn’t make it a good one and at the very least doesn’t put it above criticism. They took advantage of $hitty rules, I think that can be up for debate. From what I got from his podcast he’d have an easier time accepting defeat if the sample size was bigger.
It doesn't matter he still lost that one. During the 10 race chase he entered the final race in the lead and still managed to lose it.
 


The often cited Mark Martin.....Thinks that 50% of the fans wants a full season championship. Is he understanding that if you appease 50%, and piss off the other 50% that you are probably going to drive the sport into the ground altogether? I think he is in love with the idea that he considers himself the voice of the old school fan. Acknowledges that if you go back to what was, you will make it less exciting. There is a formula for success if I ever heard one. Also of note, Mark likes to talk to people who idolize and completely agree with him....got a little pissy with Spake when she offered an opposing view. He was much quieter before his HOF induction. That might have been better.
 
That doesn't mean those other drivers are taking things out of Denny's hands (his words). Dude, it's the format y'all are handed. You can't blame people for taking advantage of the rules. The system doesn't award mediocrity as much as it doesn't award performance.

Sure sounds like sour grapes from here.
BS. What Denny said is what he has been saying all along. He just spoke from the perspective of a guy who suffered the worst case scenario that he had been discussing before he was that guy. Not sure that I agree with him BTW, but it's hard to disagree with him too. I will say this....if the system was such ****, they why would he be so upset over losing with the said system? His point about mediocrity is the same thing the almighty Mark Martin is saying....just that it's Denny.
 
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