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Now that the Daytona testing has concluded. What do you think the pros and cons of the Gen 6 car is? And how do you like the looks of the new cars?
 
The cars look great but as far as the Daytona test is concerned, I don't think it provides us with many answers with how this car will race. This weeks testing at Charlotte should be a better indicator of how the car will race.
 
The cars look good but there seems to be a problem with the front and rear contact points. The front and rear bumpers on the CoT matched up.
 
Zerkfitting said:
The cars look good but there seems to be a problem with the front and rear contact points. The front and rear bumpers on the CoT matched up.
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I think that will work out to be a good thing. Create some separation and maybe a little racing at the restrictor plate tracks. Bring back the handling element to those tracks.
 
Zerkfitting said:
The cars look good but there seems to be a problem with the front and rear contact points. The front and rear bumpers on the CoT matched up.
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Wasn't making it harder to bump draft one of the things that Nascar was trying to accomplish with this new car.?
 
Nitro Dude said:
Wasn't making it harder to bump draft one of the things that Nascar was trying to accomplish with this new car.?
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nascar said the bumpers weren't part of that plan. :rolleyes:

I hope the fans are happy when it goes back to the side-by-side choo-choo train racing we watched for years. The anouncers will sure be happy that their shrill screams of "IT'S THE BIG ONE" will again mean something.
 
I like the looks of the Gen6 car. I'm interested in what they race like at tracks like Charlotte. Daytona and Talladega you pretty much know what you're gonna get. The racing at the mile and a half tracks will be what this car is ultimately judged on IMO.
 
I was amazed none of the teams pushed their cars together,liked the cars,grate topic.
 
I am concerned that the flared fenders are going to be too delicate to withstand minor contact which could result in a plethora of cut tyres and severe degradation of handling due to the impact on aero characteristics.
 
Matthew2470 said:
I am concerned that the flared fenders are going to be too delicate to withstand minor contact which could result in a plethora of cut tyres and severe degradation of handling due to the impact on aero characteristics.
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yes,they look neat,but................
 
I think the announcers were just starting to identify a problem with them when they were talking to Jamie Mac and Biffle . The cars are extremely loose in the draft and lack downforce . One of the drivers mentioned putting stiffer springs in the rear to keep the spoiler up higher in the air. Some others commented that the veteran drivers would prevail with a twitchier car , but I wonder if they can keep from getting caught up in the accidents that will surely arise. Will Nascar be able to tighten things up?
 
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ted@economy, post: 582022, member: 5037[/EMAIL]] Will Nascar be able to tighten things up?
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Why would they do that? Their goal clearly is to bring back the big one, and the smaller spoiler and larger plate did exactly that last year. It's a simple formula. Higher speed - downforce = wrecks.
 
FenderBumper said:
Why would they do that? Their goal clearly is to bring back the big one, and the smaller spoiler and larger plate did exactly that last year. It's a simple formula. Higher speed - downforce = wrecks.
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OK what happened to the old Fender ? Where's that sunny ,smiling ,positive guy we love ?
 
I think that will work out to be a good thing. Create some separation and maybe a little racing at the restrictor plate tracks. Bring back the handling element to those tracks.
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I agree. I'm wondering if drivers might do a "I didn't mean to spin him out". Taking someone out might be less obvious. There's some amount of bumping in normal racing, hopefully bumping won't be as dramatic at lower speeds.
 
getadietdew said:
yes,they look neat,but................
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The GEN4 car was terribly sensitive in that the slightest damage anywhere near the front fenders or valance. One tiny bump could cause the fastest car to drop like a rock. Hopefully we don't go back to that.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I think it's still a little to early to tell that much about the performance of the new car. But I think it is the best looking car that Nascar has had in a while.
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...and I can't wait until the cars get away from the crappy plate track. Daytona isn't racing after the cars became so areo-sensitive. The super speedway car is very different from the car that will be utilized for the majority of the season. I'll judge the gen6 car when I see how it performs on a real racetrack. Daytona and Talladega used to be real racetracks; now their just as competitive as a bingo game.
 
I actually like the new cars. Moving toward stock appearing cars is the best move they've made in a long time.
I'm curious about the flavor of the week name from NASCAR though, GEN 6. I don't remember a GEN 1 through GEN 5. Were there really 5 separate generations of stock car since 1949? And if so, what were the time periods? Or is this new designation just a push by GM to get it's Corvette GEN designations into NASCAR?
 
Mike Croley said:
I actually like the new cars. Moving toward stock appearing cars is the best move they've made in a long time.
I'm curious about the flavor of the week name from NASCAR though, GEN 6. I don't remember a GEN 1 through GEN 5. Were there really 5 separate generations of stock car since 1949? And if so, what were the time periods? Or is this new designation just a push by GM to get it's Corvette GEN designations into NASCAR?
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I thinks your trying to stir a pot.
 
MOEJOE said:
Where, on earth, did this come from?
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Hence, my previous question. There is only one auto manufacturer in NASCAR that uses the GEN designation for their cars, Chevrolet for the Corvette and some of their engines. NASCAR, to my knowledge, has never used the term before. Chevrolet has just introduced it's latest iteration of Corvette, the GEN 7 i believe. Just seems curious that the two should coincide. A bright marketing type from GM contacts a bright marketing type at NASCAR and says " you know, as long as you're going to name this new creation of yours, why not use a name that helps us both out "
 
Mike Croley said:
Were there really 5 separate generations of stock car since 1949? And if so, what were the time periods?
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Generation 1- 1948-1966- Stock body and frame rails.
Generation 2- 1967-1980- Stock body, modified frame rails.
Generation 3- 1981-1991- Full racing chassis, 110" wheel based.
Generation 4- 1992-2006- Hood, decklid and roof factory "altered"with rest being sheet metal. High composite nose/tail
Generation 5- 2007-2012- Common template COT.
Generation 6- 2013
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
Generation 1- 1948-1966- Stock body and frame rails.
Generation 2- 1967-1980- Stock body, modified frame rails.
Generation 3- 1981-1991- Full racing chassis, 110" wheel based.
Generation 4- 1992-2006- Hood, decklid and roof factory "altered"with rest being sheet metal. High composite nose/tail
Generation 5- 2007-2012- Common template COT.
Generation 6- 2013
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It's now GEN 6 for the first time.

Mike Croley said:
Hence, my previous question. There is only one auto manufacturer in NASCAR that uses the GEN designation for their cars, Chevrolet for the Corvette and some of their engines. NASCAR, to my knowledge, has never used the term before. Chevrolet has just introduced it's latest iteration of Corvette, the GEN 7 i believe. Just seems curious that the two should coincide. A bright marketing type from GM contacts a bright marketing type at NASCAR and says " you know, as long as you're going to name this new creation of yours, why not use a name that helps us both out "
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I was wondering where all the GEN talk in nascar suddenly came from. You may be right, especially considering how the 'Car of Tomorrow' name no longer makes sense when talking about the previous version. Saying 'Car of Tomorrow' when talking about something that will not see another tomorrow just underlines it's failure in growing the sport.
 
Mike Croley said:
Hence, my previous question. There is only one auto manufacturer in NASCAR that uses the GEN designation for their cars, Chevrolet for the Corvette and some of their engines. NASCAR, to my knowledge, has never used the term before. Chevrolet has just introduced it's latest iteration of Corvette, the GEN 7 i believe. Just seems curious that the two should coincide. A bright marketing type from GM contacts a bright marketing type at NASCAR and says " you know, as long as you're going to name this new creation of yours, why not use a name that helps us both out "
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:owquitit: :bsflag:
 
AERO PUSH

The 1.5 mile tracks will still be plagued by this no matter whether the car is a G6 or a COT (G5).

Eliminate the splitter and the front suspension bump stops and give the teams the option to use varying spring rates and we may see some improvement. Till then, the cars will look bitchen but the racing will remain pretty much the same.

Not that I am complaining - because other that the plate tracks, I think the racing in 2012 was pretty damn awesome!
 
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