GORDON"s In

ToyYoda said:
It was Jr and Gordon missing the Chase in '05 and Stewart missing it in '06 that drove NASCAR to expand the Chase field to 12 drivers in 2007.
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And it was Gordon missing the chase in 2013 that drove them to expand to 13. What's next.
 
NASCAR's sandbox. Come in and play or stay the f*** away.

Thst being said, I'm looking forward to dicussing some racing. The rehashing things, arguing and me purposely being a dick (and having fun while doing it) is getting old.
 
Mr. Gregory said:
Where did I say that I found everything that happened with MWR and Penske/Front Row to be acceptable? I agree that MWR should have been punished. In fact, you could argue that my proposed punishment in Speed's thread about all this would be a more harsh one than they got. I also said that if we were going to go the route of adding people to and removing people from the Chase, and Gordon got added, Joey should have been removed.
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Um...somehow I missed this. I agree with the last bit about Gordon added Logano punted...better check the rest out.
.....sorry dude if I were wrong.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Can u conclusively prove Penske Racing officials were responsible for offering Front Row Motorsports 38 team and driver David Gilliland any sort of compensation for position on the race track? NOPE.. and neither can NASCAR :D
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lol.

Quit being so naive. We all know what happened.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Can u conclusively prove Penske Racing officials were responsible for offering Front Row Motorsports 38 team and driver David Gilliland any sort of compensation for position on the race track? NOPE.. and neither can NASCAR :D
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Can you prove Bowyer wasn't just loose and spun can you prove that Vickers was brought in to help Truex? NOPE and neither can NASCAR:D but since Mickey isn't PENSKE GOD OF MOTORSPORTS Truex gets screwed and Penske gets another BJ from NASCAR.
 
gordonite said:
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...nuff said :partytime
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That is hilarious...lol
 
cwag1 said:
Can you prove Bowyer wasn't just loose and spun can you prove that Vickers was brought in to help Truex? NOPE and neither can NASCAR:D but since Mickey isn't PENSKE GOD OF MOTORSPORTS Truex gets screwed and Penske gets another BJ from NASCAR.
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Works for me.
 
Blaze88 said:
Jr made the chase the year before they added it, he was in the 2006 chase, top 12 came in 2007 so try again
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Stop snowin people with facts . It's hard for us old people to follow . You mean that Nascar didn't change the rules mid-year to get Junior into the chase ? They changed the rules for the following year not knowing whether Junior would benefit or not ?
 
beantownkid10 said:
It must be really hard to understand that the end of the race results weren't actual race results.
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Then Nascar should have made the call during the event like every other sport on the planet does, genius. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Has nobody ever cheated before? I've seen Nascar black flag & park drivers, so why couldn't that have been done at Richmond?

To change the playoff teams a day later and then again 6 days later is a f@#$ing joke.
 
So from now on if you let your teammate lead a lap your team gets put on probation. Hey no more start and parks either with the new rule. Helton has got to go. He is an embarrassment. NASCAR has become an embarrassment. Sunday RAW with Vince the Helton Mann.
 
lowbrace4 said:
So from now on if you let your teammate lead a lap your team gets put on probation. Hey no more start and parks either with the new rule. Helton has got to go. He is an embarrassment. NASCAR has become an embarrassment. Sunday RAW with Vince the Helton Mann.
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Didn't see THAT interview. The one I saw was somewhat different .
 
cwag1 said:
Can you prove Bowyer wasn't just loose and spun can you prove that Vickers was brought in to help Truex? NOPE and neither can NASCAR:D but since Mickey isn't PENSKE GOD OF MOTORSPORTS Truex gets screwed and Penske gets another BJ from NASCAR.
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Yes. Ty Norris told Vickers on the radio 'we need that point'.
 
What if MLB decided to add another wild card team because an umpire made a mistake. NASCAR will never have legitimacy as long as they make decisions like this. Look at the empty seats.
 
Mayhem said:
Then Nascar should have made the call during the event like every other sport on the planet does, genius. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Has nobody ever cheated before? I've seen Nascar black flag & park drivers, so why couldn't that have been done at Richmond?

To change the playoff teams a day later and then again 6 days later is a f@#$ing joke.
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And cheating to manipulate the race results and the chase is an even bigger joke.
 
Two words debris cautions. Is that not race manipulation? Gordon's car was manipulated by Chad K. Bet NASCAR didn't check that car after race.
 
beantownkid10 said:
And cheating to manipulate the race results and the chase is an even bigger joke.
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Nascar should've had procedures in place to penalize drivers/teams in real time just like all of the other sports do, it's just common sense.
 
Mayhem said:
Nascar should've had procedures in place to penalize drivers/teams in real time just like all of the other sports do, it's just common sense.
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You are right. But they didn't. So they did something about it.

This whole archaic idea that since other sports don't fix wrong results, NASCAR shouldn't, is stupid. It's 2013, we should be more concerned about getting it right, rather than what they do in other sports.
 
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Everybody knows Helton is in bed with Hendricks. This proves it. Do u really think JJ was racing 100% the final 2 races. His team was concentrating on getting all 4 teams in chase. Fans will not put up with this. Watch for empty seats.
 
KevinWI said:
Oh, I'm sure terrible master criminal Rick Hendrick will find some parts around.
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Ah I don't think honda parts will work..he might trade them to indycar.
lowbrace4 said:
Everybody knows Helton is in bed with Hendricks. This proves it. Do u really think JJ was racing 100% the final 2 races. His team was concentrating on getting all 4 teams in chase. Fans will not put up with this. Watch for empty seats.
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you got any pics? they might be worth something
 
lowbrace4 said:
Everybody knows Helton is in bed with Hendricks. This proves it. Do u really think JJ was racing 100% the final 2 races. His team was concentrating on getting all 4 teams in chase. Fans will not put up with this. Watch for empty seats.
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Please do join them.

It will leave cheaper tickets for the rest of us fans.
 
beantownkid10 said:
Please do join them.

It will leave cheaper tickets for the rest of us fans.
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Just buy the cheapest ticket u can then move up to the good seats. U can sit wherever u like. NASCAR has ruined Talladega and Daytona so not planing on going to dega anyway. I'll spend my money for Austin Tx this year.
 
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