How do debris cautions affect your viewing experience?

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When two drivers are battling for the lead with 100 laps to go with a well deserved large lead on third place, how do you react when that inevitable debris caution falls? We all know it's coming, the only question is whether they find a spring rubber on the apron to point the camera at or just cut to commercial.

Personally I lose any and all interest in the outcome of the current race. Kyle Busch and Martin Truex Jr earned the right to battle for the win on Sunday (if a legit caution flies, then so be it), but when the field is reset and that deserved lead evaporates, I mentally check out or turn the TV off altogether. Am I alone here? Should I pound a few Coors Lights and just yee haw when they bunch up and wreck on the restarts?




Look at the difference that one yellow made in this race. (No, this isn't my youtube account, lol)
 
I love the cautions. They improve driver safety and make the race more exciting. And no . We don't know when they are going to come. If you know when they are going to come out , then go on the race thread and predict the cautions before they happen. I was listening to the radio broadcast on PRN and they were reporting debris on the track long before the caution.
 
Oh , looking at your video , I see what you mean . Your driver was leading and because the network was in commercial , you missed the reason for the caution . Bummer
 
I hate them, and it has nothing to do with how it effects my driver.
The unnecessary ones are despicable and should be as illegitimate as the idiotic chase point resets, imo.

Some wannabe Grand Poobahs just can't handle a real race. The same kind of mentality that fuels the idiocy of Brian France, who would be better at writing scripts for the "jackass" reality show.
 
They are destroying the race. Especially in the regards to yesterday, when you had a bunch of back markers who were going nowhere undeservedly get thrown up into the Top 10 simply by being in the right place at the right time. Not saying that luck shouldn't play a role in things, but when an uncompetitive driver who had been running back in the pack in the high 20's or 30's for almost the entire race suddenly jumps to the front of the pack in the final laps due to back to back phantom debris cautions, something is seriously broken. After all, then just what is the point of racing, anymore? Why not just go to 50 or 100 mile races, as in reality that's what they're becoming. Why bust your backside all day running in the Top 10 when NASCAR is just going to hit the reset button in the final laps and reward some schmuck who did nothing but drive (not race) around in circles all day?

Rewarding mediocrity is not the solution to NASCAR'S problem (of course, we all know what NASCAR's problem really is, but that's a rant for another thread).
 
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How about ranting in one of those "rate the race" when everyone is complaining about the race being all strung out with no passing. I love that type of racing too , but some folks seem to really dislike it.
 
Debris cautions are the number one problem I have with NASCAR right now. There was a race early this year (Atlanta?) where they actually let the drivers race. It was a beautiful thing. It reminded me of the old days. We have gone 14 years since the last caution-free race, and I doubt we will ever see one again with BF in charge.
 
29-4 said:
Debris cautions are the number one problem I have with NASCAR right now. There was a race early this year (Atlanta?) where they actually let the drivers race. It was a beautiful thing. It reminded me of the old days. We have gone 14 years since the last caution-free race, and I doubt we will ever see one again with BF in charge.
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I was at that race, and believe it or not a lot of the fans in the stands around me were starting to complain whenever a green flag run went on for too long. I guess not everybody thinks like we do in here.
 
It won't be long before a caution clock is featured in the top three series.

Shortly thereafter, timed races.
 
There are more important things to be upset about in life, just sit back and enjoy the ride
 
ToyYoda said:
I agree. It's not a matter of if the caution clock comes to Cup, but when.
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I don't think so. My gut-feel prediction is that it will not come to Cup.
 
kkfan91 said:
There are more important things to be upset about in life, just sit back and enjoy the ride
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I would never claim that this issue effects my quality of life. But it is the thread topic, and honest thoughts about it, pro or con are worth posting imo.
 
I don't think the clock will make it to cup. Drivers have been publicly against it and they were the ones who suggested it in the first place. That said, I don't mind debris cautions that much. Most of the time they are thrown because of the drivers themselves complaining and they have the best view of things.
 
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ToyYoda said:
I was at that race, and believe it or not a lot of the fans in the stands around me were starting to complain whenever a green flag run went on for too long. I guess not everybody thinks like we do in here.
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Then maybe they need to move onto a different sport better suited to their liking:

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If the CC comes, hopefully my video games will not add it or add a 2016 button.
 
4tires17gals said:
If the CC comes, hopefully my video games will not add it or add a 2016 button.
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But then it wont be a accurate NASCAR game, and as a NASCAR gamer , I want my NASCAR games to be accurate is possible ( that does mean I want the the CC in the Cup series)
 
Debris cautions and the Chase are the 2 main things wrong with NASCAR. I rarely watch the races anymore. It's meaningless. I just check the race results online after the race is over. Been watching a lot of Indycar and Formula 1 lately.
 
Greg said:
Caution Clock for racing is like a setting a time limit for sex.
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That actually sounds awesome. "Break for snacks and fluids!" "Green flag. Back up in the air."
 
ted@economy said:
Oh , looking at your video , I see what you mean . Your driver was leading and because the network was in commercial , you missed the reason for the caution . Bummer
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I clearly stated that every conveniently timed debris caution (spring rubbers on the apron, water bottles way out of the racing groove, etc) causes me to lose interest in the rest of the race. When the predictable debris caution came down at Homestead last year with a handful of laps remaining while Kyle had the trophy locked up I shut the TV off. The debris caution ended up giving Kyle the race win along with the championship, and it still felt cheap to me. I am a fan of fair competition, not sports entertainment.
 
BobbyFord said:
I don't mind the cautions if there really is debris. I would prefer the network show the debris whenever possible.
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This has been going on for 15 years, the networks have heard this complaint, sometimes there just isn't anything to show. It's not just the debris, yellows are thrown when cars brush the wall coming off the corner or do a half spin and save it. If the caution clock in the Truck series hasn't shown you Brian France's intentions with yellow flags, I don't know what else to tell ya.
 
They don't affect my experience any more or less than cautions from other causes.

I agree with what someone else posted last week: if it's just a simple debris caution, send the truck out to pick it up and leave pit road closed. It shouldn't take more than three laps at 1.5-mile track to pick up a couple of piece of stuff. Go back to green as soon as possible; don't wait around while cars pit under yellow.
 
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Public Service Announcement:

Very heavy ballon sighting advisory on for this Sunday, 3.35pm EST at the Indianapolis Speedway (back stretch racing area).

This high risk, clear and present danger requires yellow flags and lengthy trackside inspections. With enough clean up time to facilitate a pit cycle for lead lap cars, then lapped cars, and finally for awarding lucky dogs and wave arounds afterwards. 5 lap minimum caution rule applys.

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