Interest builds around possible changes to NASCAR schedule

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by FLRacingFan, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    I agree that 'huge' is relative.

    So what are they offering besides the racing? What makes it an 'event'? How do we break down how much of the enhanced attendance is due to the sideshows vs. how much is due to just hosting a regional touring series? People that attend a local track only once a month or less may come out for some different racing even without the gimmicks.

    I guess from a promoter's view it doesn't matter if why they're showing up as long as they're buying tickets. I'd love to understand how the cranberries and green beans came to be regarded as just as important (or even more important) than the turkey.
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  2. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    CARS Tour promotes well. Sometimes they'll have a concert, sometimes they'll have something else going on. And it feels like something special when they come to town.

    NASCAR has 38 races. Most of those races are at tracks they run at twice a year. It's gotten stale. Especially since it's the same thing ... a race, a pre-race concert with some bro country star, and a casino nearby.

    I don't think any track should have more than one race myself, not even Daytona (since nothing's sacred anymore and we've moved off July). Charlotte might be the lone exception since they have the Roval. Add dates at Iowa, Gateway, Milwaukee (if possible), Portland, Nashville (if possible), and add these street races in Denver, maybe something in New York, and cut the schedule down to 26 races.
  3. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    1. Daytona 500 - Daytona International Speedway
    2. Las Vegas Motor Speedway
    3. Auto Club Speedway
    4. Sonoma Raceway
    5. Homestead-Miami Speedway
    6. Texas Motor Speedway
    7. Talladega Superspeedway
    8. Fairgrounds Speedway Nashville (Wednesday night race)
    9. ISM Raceway Phoenix
    10. Atlanta Motor Speedway
    11. Martinsville Speedway (Wednesday night race)
    12. Dover International Speedway
    13. All Star Race -- Bowman Gray Stadium (Thursday or Friday night race)
    14. Coca-Cola 600 - Charlotte Motor Speedway (Monday afternoon/evening race)
    15. The Milwaukee Mile
    16. Pocono Raceway
    17. Gateway Motorsports Park
    18. Fourth of July - Richmond Raceway
    19. Portland International Raceway
    20. Kansas Speedway (Wednesday night race)
    21. Denver street race (Mile High Stadium) (Sunday night race)
    22. Indianapolis Motor Speedway (Round of 12)
    23. Watkins Glen International (Round of 12)
    24. Iowa Speedway (Round of 12) (Wednesday night race)
    25. New Hampshire Motor Speedway (Round of 8)
    26. Chicagoland Speedway (Round of 8)
    27. Bristol Motor Speedway (Round of 8) (Wednesday night race)
    28. Southern 500 - Darlington (Championship) (Monday night race)
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  4. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    Oops I forgot Kentucky :)

    (No I didn't)

    If you want, shove the Roval in somewhere as a weeknight race too lol
  5. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    I wouldn't mind, if we are not going to go back to Daytona for 4th of July weekend, us going to Philadelphia or Washington D.C that weekend
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  6. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I'm all for exploring new markets but ehhhhh on stock cars on street circuits. Safety at a lot of those places is honestly questionable and packing 36+ Cup cars onto one seems like a recipe for a caution fest. As far as passing ability goes even Australia Supercars are cutting downforce 15% because the product needs shaking up. Would really depend what circuits they'd look at adding and which to cut to see if it'd truly be a good decision as far as racing product goes.
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  7. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    NASCAR probably wants a NYC (area) street course race. It doesn't make sense to have Long Beach AND Fontana. Portland doesn't make sense in my opinion. Toronto or Trois-Riveres would be cool.
  8. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    The CARS Tour throwback weekend looks pretty dang cool.
  9. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    Ice racing on the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field confirned?
  10. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Paul Menard approves
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  11. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Remember the Gator

    I'm pretty sure Kenseth will find a one-off for that one, if he has to fund it himself.

    Still waiting on a list of cities that would be seriously interested, not ones we find interesting.
  12. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    If they do a street race or two fine....but it you also have fine road courses like Road America, Montreal, and Circuit Of The America’s waiting to be used for Cup
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  13. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    I think you are on point with these tracks. A while back in a questionnaire NASCAR specifically mentioned, COTA, Road America, Mid Ohio and Mosports. For discussion they also threw in a few short tracks like Nashville, Iowa and Eldora. Given the commitment needed to get a race scheduled on a "street circuit" I don't see how that could be pulled off in time for when NASCAR announces the 2021 schedule.
    BTW, I would think COTA is a front runner given the little "demonstration " run that recently occurred there.
  14. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Forgot Mid Ohio, maybe that could be the NBC/NASCAR double header. Throw in that spectacular racing facility onto the list
  15. Revman

    Revman 2X CHAMPION

    Dunno....Portland makes a lot of sense honestly. This is the corner that NASCAR isn't into.... That track would lend itself nicely to today's cars, and probably even better with the Next Gen IMO. I haven't been on the property in a number of years, so I don't know what they have done to bring IndyCar back, but they would probably need to dump money into it.
  16. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I mentioned Portland on here a few years ago and someone responded with a reason a Nascar race wouldn't do good in the Northwest...but I can't remember what they said.
  17. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    lol. wow! Thats HUGE!
  18. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    has NASCAR ever raced a true street course?
  19. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic


    The Southwest Tour races in LA and the ARCA Series raced in Des Moines.
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  20. DanicaFreak

    DanicaFreak Green monster

    Thanks Andy. Was it a good race?
  21. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    There's video of the Los Angeles race on YouTube. No such video exists if the Des Moines race yet.
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  22. Bigpaulie1979

    Bigpaulie1979 Tire changer

    The Canadian Nascar Pinty's series has races on the streets of Toronto as part of the "Molson" Indy weekend , and has had races at the Edmonton airport as part of the Edmonton Indy, three rivers Quebec, circuit Gilles villeneuve in Montreal and all of them put on a pretty good show
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  23. Zerkfitting

    Zerkfitting Team Owner

    I don't like street courses. They are concrete canyons and accidents can become road blocks - at least there would be plenty of red and yellow lights.
  24. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

  25. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    Indycar seems to do well at PIR
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  26. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    gees I said the same thing and used the same racing series. I must be clairvoyant
  27. DewChaser988

    DewChaser988 NASCAR fan since 1998

    Street Circuits are worth an experiment. What NASCAR has been doing since 2004 clearly isn't working. I'm not strictly opposed to change or progress, unlike many of the luddities in the fanbase, but it has to at least, be something that needs to be changed. If we can't get fans to the track, bring the track to them, I say.
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  28. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Why would anyone attend a race where yo see your car very briefly every few minutes? Do they have huge TV's all around where the fans sit?
    May as well stay home where at least the beer is affordable.
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