racer8
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Good to see Biffle win again.
Ford in Victory Lane, what could be better? Good interview by a more mature Kyle Busch. Joe Gibbs is just what Kyle needs.
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SST55
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A azz kicking is what he really needs.
Anyone got Reuties address? I'd like to send him a box of seegars
Anyone got Reuties address? I'd like to send him a box of seegars
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PettyBlue
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Busch knows that if he wears out his welcome at Gibbs like he did at Hendrick he'll have a hard time taking his baggage somewhere else.
That post race interview really took me by surprise. I am actually warming up to Kyle.
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PettyBlue
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I think he was speaking under orders. His first reaction on getting out of the car was to head straight for the hauler. but ESPN caught Gibbs giving him an earful whereafter Busch played nice with the press.
zevious
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Are you on the team? It always amazes me as to just how much you seem to know about what Kyle is thinking, what his team is doing and what the outcome will be if this or that doesn't happen.
I was happy to see them at least salvage something from what could have been an even uglier day. That is what it takes to win the championship. I'm still not sure if Kyle and the team are quite there (up to the level to win the championship) but they are way closer than they were last year. Good to see.
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PettyBlue
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No, but I have a pair of eyes and the right to an opinion.
Reuti who?
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
I would agree that Kyle is showing a little more sense, but when he dumped Reutiman , it was like " Bud , why would you do that? " Don't think he might retaliate? What does he have to lose? And aren't you on probation? Man this guy still has a ways to grow.
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Guido
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Reutiman is a clean driver.
But he has been wrecked several times by Busch and I guess he had enough of it.
He hit him where it hurt the most......... dropped him 4 places in the points.
Good job, David!
But he has been wrecked several times by Busch and I guess he had enough of it.
He hit him where it hurt the most......... dropped him 4 places in the points.
Good job, David!
Tennessee Racing
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David always gets pushed around and I guess he got tired of it.
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When has he been wrecked several times by Busch??
Loved it. You go RUDI.
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Guido
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Sorry, I don't remember specific races and I don't write this stuff down for trivia contests.
I do remember that Busch spun or wrecked him a few times in the past when I was working with David. Easy to remember who the idiots are.
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I'm glad you can remember because I have been watching him in every race since he joined JGR and I don't recall these "several" instances. Every few months someone comes in here and makes a statement like that and when asked to give specifics, they can't.
I doesn't really matter though, David felt he had had enough and attempted to take Kyle out of the race today. He failed at that part but he did make Kyle's chances of winning the championship just a little slimmer. Was that his intention? Who knows. I think he was just pissed.
You can't blame David for being pissed though, two weeks in a row his car was out to lunch and someone ran his ass over.
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JustMe
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That must have been awhile back, like pre Nascar days. I've tried to find how many times Kyle has wrecked David and I can't find several. I have found where David caused numerous wrecks and been wrecked by numerous drivers though. But as far as Kyle straight out wrecking David, not them being collected because of someone else, today is all I can find.
Although I did find where Denny and Kurt has wrecked him.
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JustMe
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You can't blame David for being pissed though, two weeks in a row his car was out to lunch and someone ran his ass over.
You can't blame him and not just for the last 2 weeks either. Seems like every time he's running pretty good either he hits somebody or somebody hits him.
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing
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Good race. Too bad Biffle won. I can't stand the ****ing guy. Every time he refers to himself as "The Biff" I want to punch his teeth out.
dpkimmel2001
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That must have been awhile back, like pre Nascar days. I've tried to find how many times Kyle has wrecked David and I can't find several. I have found where David caused numerous wrecks and been wrecked by numerous drivers though. But as far as Kyle straight out wrecking David, not them being collected because of someone else, today is all I can find.
I don't remember all of the times that Busch had taken out Reutimann either but there's certainly no love lost between those two. You only have to go back as far as the Bristol night race for their latest brush up.
Flashback to Bristol.....
dpkimmel2001
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I'll be interested to see what happens after that second date and additional seating are added. Right now it's a track that holds 81,000. When we see that many people at other tracks, many complain about the lack of attendance. I have to wonder what we'll be talking about when many of the spectators will have to decide which one of the two races at this track that they will go too. Let's see, the June race or the Chase race? Which do you think?
sloggie
Racing I will teach you
One of my favorite Blogs in Nascar Insiders, written by some guys who work one of the teams. They think that it was just one of those racing things where reut got loose and Kyle didn't react fast enough.
Here is their take: http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/10/03/david-reutimann-and-the-art-of-overreaction/
Regardless of who's side you are on, the whole thing just shows how dumb the chase is. Can you imagine a playoff system in any other sport where a team that was eliminated took out a contender? It makes zero sense.
Edit: Watch this video at 20 seconds in is where the incident happens. You can here Kyle actually lift off the gas before he makes contact. http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/post_race/highlights/10/03/cup_kan_high_one.nascar/index.html
I'm sure the haters will still blame Kyle, since that is what haters do.
Here is their take: http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/10/03/david-reutimann-and-the-art-of-overreaction/
Regardless of who's side you are on, the whole thing just shows how dumb the chase is. Can you imagine a playoff system in any other sport where a team that was eliminated took out a contender? It makes zero sense.
Edit: Watch this video at 20 seconds in is where the incident happens. You can here Kyle actually lift off the gas before he makes contact. http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/post_race/highlights/10/03/cup_kan_high_one.nascar/index.html
I'm sure the haters will still blame Kyle, since that is what haters do.
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MoMike
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Well Pal,
Kyle started with a clean slate. He's certainly earned all the hate that surrounds him at this point. What I can't understand is how some of you saps Still have sympathy for the pathetic little fool.
MoMike
dpkimmel2001
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And also imagine how it will be if they implement the elimination idea. How will that be looked at if some non Chase driver decides it's time to permanently eliminate a competitor from the Chase? That same situation under an elimination format would have spelled the end of his season.
How will that be looked at if some non Chase driver decides it's time to permanently eliminate a competitor from the Chase? That same situation under an elimination format would have spelled the end of his season.
sloggie
Racing I will teach you
Personal insults aside (do we have moderators here?) a lot of us like to see Non-vanilla drivers that actually go for wins instead of settling for another top 10 finish. Points racing sucks.
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MoMike
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Good one!!
Had me going there for a minute, didn't think anyone could be that thin skinned..MoMike
Are you saying you wouldn't be more interested in the MLB playoffs if Dustin Pedroia was allowed to come in from the bullpen and hit Derek Jeter from behind with a bat?
sloggie
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JustMe
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No matter what you think about either driver, and I like both, if they were reversed everyone's opinion would be different. Right now everyone blames Kyle for wrecking David and saying "way to go" to David for coming back and wrecking Kyle. If David had got into Kyle first, the same way Kyle got into him, that would have been a racing thing, and then if Kyle had come back and intentionally wrecked David, like David did Kyle, most people wouldn't be saying way to go Kyle.
dpkimmel2001
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No, not everyone.
VaDirt
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And one of those idiots has a whole lot more wins than the other, while the other runs mid-pack
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chromehorn
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There aren't multiple times, just the one at Bristol. Those two didn't have a problem with each other until then, regardless as to how much some around here would like everyone to believe, it's not true. Everyone would love to believe that all those times Reutiman got spun or wrecked was because of Kyle but truth is Reutiman is an average driver that is rarely in the same pack as Kyle during a race, that would also explain the large difference in their points total and standings. So try again on that theory.
Funny thing is that if the situation was reversed Sunday, you people would still be bashing Kyle and the 00 would still be the victim.
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MoMike
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Why do you think that is?? Got a clue? Johnson isn't hated as much as him, and Jimmies accomplished 5 times more. Why is that?
MoMike
dpkimmel2001
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Well, it didn't happen @ Bristol. He didn't take out Reutimann @ Bristol. Reutimann finished second to Kyle that night. Reutimann's problems with Kyle were with Kyle's post race comments.
You people? WTH are you talking about? I've already said that I thought Reutimann was wrong. Had the roles been reversed and Kyle had taken out Reutimann like that I would have said the same about him.
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chromehorn
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Why do you think that is?? Got a clue? Johnson isn't hated as much as him, and Jimmies accomplished 5 times more. Why is that?
MoMike
You make no sense at all, please explain that thought process to me if you can and what it has to do with what would happen if the tables were turned. Just because a driver is disliked more than another that makes him wrong from the get go no matter what happens on the track? I thought Dale Sr was a jerkoff but at the same time I respected his talent and don't automatically assume every accident he was involved in was his fault or had it coming.
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chromehorn
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Wasn't it Bristol were Kyle moved him to get the win?
"You people" wasn't directed to you, it was for everyone else talking out of their ass acting like Kyle is the bad guy no matter what happens. The space shuttle could crash on Kyles house and some people would still say it was Kyles fault for starting it.
VaDirt
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I don't think anyone moved anyone at Bristol, that's why people were comlaining so much about how boring it was.
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Exactly. It's all spin to hate on Kyle. (Not to say that he doesn't bring some it on himself)
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Which is amazing considering that Bristol races are usually the most exciting ones.
Good job Bill Frances Jr., you took all the fun out of Bristol.