Kenseth?

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let the speculation begin...

From Jayskis:
Kenseth declines to discuss future...to Gibbs? Penske?: #17-Matt Kenseth declined to discuss his future with Roush Fenway Racing before Sunday's race at Sonoma, where there was rampant speculation he's been talking to other race teams. Kenseth acts as his own agent, and has been with Roush his entire career. But his #17 Ford has limited sponsorship, and team owner Jack Roush has been paying out of his own pocket to ensure Kenseth runs a full season. "You know I don't talk about my contract," Kenseth said. "I'd like to have something to tell you, but I don't have anything to talk about right now. Until I have something to announce, I don't talk about it."
Everybody else was talking, though, and Kenseth's name this weekend was linked to both Joe Gibbs Racing, a Toyota team, and Penske Racing, which is moving from Dodge to Ford in 2013. Kenseth is a longtime Ford driver. JGR team president J.D. Gibbs declined to discuss any possible negotiations with Kenseth. JGR not only has room for expansion to a fourth car, but Joey Logano's status as driver of the #20 is currently unresolved. Logano is in the final year of his contract. "I'm not allowed to talk," he said.
Roger Penske was not at Sunday's race, but senior vice president of Penske Corp., Bud Denker said the team is not talking to Kenseth and is content with AJ Allmendinger in the #22. "Our expectations are that AJ will be in the car and Todd (Gordon) will be the crew chief next year," Denker said. "So we are not talking to Matt, that's confirmed." The Penske move to Ford has led to talk the organization could be a potential home for Nationwide Series champion Ricky Stenhouse Jr. or 2011 Daytona 500 winner Trevor Bayne, who are both in long-term contracts with Roush but are stymied because of sponsorship woes.(ESPN/Associated Press)(6-24-2012)
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Bayne goes to Penske and they open a spot in Roush for Stenhouse, which means Kenseth goes to Petty. :idunno:
 
It still amazes me that Roush can't find any sponsorship. It really sounds like whoever is running their sponsorships needs to be fired.

If the #10 car today with some driver I've never heard of can have an Ice Age movie as their sponsor, Rousch should be able to find something, anything.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
It still amazes me that Roush can't find any sponsorship. It really sounds like whoever is running their sponsorships needs to be fired.

If the #10 car today with some driver I've never heard of can have an Ice Age movie as their sponsor, Rousch should be able to find something, anything.
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apparently there is not a lack of sponsors, but Jack wants tons of money for someone to be put on his cars.
 
JimmieGordon2448 said:
apparently there is not a lack of sponsors, but Jack wants tons of money for someone to be put on his cars.
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You mean Jack has an ego problem?? :eek:

On a side note to all this, does it blow anyone else mind that Kenseth is currently leading the points?! It is the most "low key" points lead ever....
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
You mean Jack has an ego problem?? :eek:

On a side note to all this, does it blow anyone else mind that Kenseth is currently leading the points?! It is the most "low key" points lead ever....
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Well his championship win was also the most "low key" championship win ever too and look where that got us.
 
Until Roush, Kenseth was a loyal Chevy driver. So is there a Chevy team that might be interested in him? But in today's game, manufacture loyalty is long gone.
 
JimmieGordon2448 said:
Bayne goes to Penske and they open a spot in Roush for Stenhouse, which means Kenseth goes to Petty. :idunno:
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I can't get over you guys . Bayne and Stenhouse are great young kids who would fit in well with any team if they had one cent worth of sponsorship with them . They haven't even been chase contenders . Guys like Kenseth and Burton have a long corporate track record and a long history as chase contenders . Like Junior and Jeff Gordon , sponsors with connect with them before the kids. The best thing about them is they will likely work for nothing as test drivers.
 
buckaroo said:
Until Roush, Kenseth was a loyal Chevy driver. So is there a Chevy team that might be interested in him? But in today's game, manufacture loyalty is long gone.
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Sad but true Buckaroo. There's very.little manufacturer loyalty.
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
Sad but true Buckaroo. There's very.little manufacturer loyalty.
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People might care about it more if everything was made in America but with the way things are now its like it doesn't even really matter. That's just how I personally feel. If I knew one of the manufacturers were completely made and assembled in the states I would instantly become their biggest supporter.
 
#17D500winner said:
Maybe Home Depot goes to Roush instead of Kenseth going to Gibbs.
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I could see that , Home Depot need a contender . But I keep seeing Roush having a marketing problem , don't know why it is ? Maybe it just came too easy for years and they fell behind in the sales dept. . Since they combined with Fenway things have not gone well .
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
If the #10 car today with some driver I've never heard of can have an Ice Age movie as their sponsor, Rousch should be able to find something, anything.
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Apparently Drissi owns an advertising agency that produces theater displays for movies, so he must have been able to pull some strings... still surprising, though.
 
[quote="ted@economy, post: 524668, member: 5037". . Since they combined with Fenway things have not gone well .[/quote]

I have said this since day one....Nothing good comes out of combining with big companies
 
Jeffrey00 said:
they created the chase because he ran away with the championship in 2003. not sure how low key that is.
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He did run away with it but it was low key cause he didn't even win a race that year. If he would have won a few races we probably would have never had the chase.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
He did run away with it but it was low key cause he didn't even win a race that year. If he would have won a few races we probably would have never had the chase.
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I need to check, but I am almost positive he won at least once that year.
 
Greg said:
I need to check, but I am almost positive he won at least once that year.
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Smoke14 said:
He did win one race that year.
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Jeffrey00 said:
he won vegas that year.
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Yup that's right. I forgot he won 1(I can't believe it's almost 10 years ago, that's scary as hell) but yeah if he would have won a few more then people wouldn't have been whining so much about the huge lead he had in the standings.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
Yup that's right. I forgot he won 1(I can't believe it's almost 10 years ago, that's scary as hell) but yeah if he would have won a few more then people wouldn't have been whining so much about the huge lead he had in the standings.
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He had a crazy number of top tens that year. That was the worst year of racing I can remember because it seemed like half the races were rained out.
 
Smoke14 said:
He had a crazy number of top tens that year. That was the worst year of racing I can remember because it seemed like half the races were rained out.
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I looked it up, 25 top 10s in 36 races. I completely forgot how well he really did run that year.
 
Smoke14 said:
I knew he had a bunch of top tens that year but I didn't know it was that many.

I do remember he finished dead last at Homestead.
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That race was also Bobby LaBonte's last win.

The thing with the chase is that you still don't have to win a race to win the cup!
 
Smoke14 said:
I knew he had a bunch of top tens that year but I didn't know it was that many.

I do remember he finished dead last at Homestead.
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Kenseth won by 90 points, it was hardly a runaway. Not like some of the championships that were decided before Rockingham. The welfare points system was a knee jerk reaction that never accomplished its goal. How close was Carl to winning the championship with one win.

One time, Earnhardt hadn't won a race yet in the season (can't remember when it was) and he was asked how he could win a championship without a win. Earnhardt said something along the lines of he'll just second-place them to death.
 
There's nothing NASCAR can do about drivers winning championships without tons of race wins. If someone clicks off 36 top-ten finishes and has the most points, they deserve to be the champion regardless of whether they win one race or win 10.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
There's nothing NASCAR can do about drivers winning championships without tons of race wins. If someone clicks off 36 top-ten finishes and has the most points, they deserve to be the champion regardless of whether they win one race or win 10.
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Sure there is, give 1000 points to any driver for their first win each season.
 
Benny Parsons was the 1973 champion with one win. There are probably more.


Wallace won about a dozen races in two different seasons with no title for the season . Back in the early days many of the big dogs won a lot with with no title.


An old racer told me it was a promoters racket to get full fields with only a little money
 
Smoke14 said:
Sure there is, give 1000 points to any driver for their first win each season.
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The best driver all year should win the championship. They could give a million points for winning and it still wouldn't improve the racing. Everyone knows they just have to stay in the top 10 for those 26 races.

Would you be okay with someone winning 10 races and finishing outside the top-30 for ten races beating a guy who finishes in the top-ten for 36 races because of an artificial points system?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Kenseth won by 90 points, it was hardly a runaway. Not like some of the championships that were decided before Rockingham. The welfare points system was a knee jerk reaction that never accomplished its goal. How close was Carl to winning the championship with one win.

One time, Earnhardt hadn't won a race yet in the season (can't remember when it was) and he was asked how he could win a championship without a win. Earnhardt said something along the lines of he'll just second-place them to death.
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He won by only 90 points because he finished last on at Homestead (last race of the season). I believe all he had to do was start the Rockingham race and he won the championship. He left Rockingham with the championship sealed and with a 226 point lead.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
He won by only 90 points because he finished last on at Homestead (last race of the season). I believe all he had to do was start the Rockingham race and he won the championship. He left Rockingham with the championship sealed and with a 226 point lead.
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And he deserved to win the championship that year. Best driver all year long, even if he did wreck Harvick a few times to get it done.
 
I often hear about all these wrecks Kenseth has caused but have yet to see any proof of fact that shows he‘s wrecked anymore people than anyone else. Those claims that he wrecked vickers 5 times last year are just plain bulls**t.
 
I see Kenseth as the red headed step child at RFR. He may be leading in the points, he may be a past champ but I see him as low man on the totem pole. He'll be the first to go if jack needs to make room.
All teams have a degree of difficulty in getting sponsors, RFR just seems to have a tougher time of it.

No link, no facts, just my opinion.
 
#17D500winner said:
I often hear about all these wrecks Kenseth has caused but have yet to see any proof of fact that shows he‘s wrecked anymore people than anyone else. Those claims that he wrecked vickers 5 times last year are just plain bulls**t.
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Can you send me a pair of those Best Buy blinders?
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
He did run away with it but it was low key cause he didn't even win a race that year. If he would have won a few races we probably would have never had the chase.
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BS it was just another excuse for Nascar to come up with a gimmick. Nascar gets hammered in the ratings department in fall because of NFL football so they came up with the Chase.
 
So if Kasey wins 2 more times and DNFs or finishes outside of the top 20 4 or 5 more times does he deserve to get the wildcard just because he won more races than some one who was more consistent all season? The Chase is artificial, it takes away from what racing is all about and that is to be consistently good no matter how many wins you have. Unfortunately I don't see Nascar getting rid of the Chase.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
I looked it up, 25 top 10s in 36 races. I completely forgot how well he really did run that year.
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There you go that is the way it is supposed to be....all year not a contrived drama to supposedly improve ratings against the NFL which Nascar will never be able to go head to head with.
 
People bitch that winning is not adequately rewarded then they bitch that there's too much reward for winning. Bloody hell, people.
 
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