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NASCAR At Loudon: Brad Keselowski's Anti-Drug, Anti-Vitamin, Anti-Supplement Rant

Jul 13 6:39p by Jeff Gluck
In light of Penske Racing teammate AJ Allmendinger's suspension for a positive drug test, Brad Keselowski made some strong comments about athletes who take drugs, supplements and even vitamins today at New Hampshire Motor Speedway.
Keselowski said he hadn't spoken to Allmendinger since the suspension was handed down, but said it was "like watching somebody get killed because you know what it (means) to someone's career."
"Whether (the 'B' sample) comes back positive or negative, it's still a death sentence" as far as Allmendinger's reputation, Keselowski said.
But mostly, the driver had some thoughts about ingesting any sort of substance that might boost performance – or even health.
Here's what he told reporters at New Hampshire:
My personal belief that nothing should be allowed. Nothing. I don't feel like you should be able to take Flintstones (vitamin) pills. It's my personal belief. You're race car drivers, you should have to overcome it. I think it's a bunch of bull**** people should be allowed to take supplements, any of those things. I don't think that's right. I don't think any athlete should be allowed to take that. But that's my own personal belief.
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At end of day, there are certain things still allowed. Who gets to pick and choose what they are? I don't know. I don't understand that process. My own personal code of avoiding (a positive test) is to take nothing at all.
But when you go in that room to have a drug test – and I've never taken drugs in my life, I'm scared ****less of it and it's honestly a phobia of mine – I go in that room and I'm still scared. Becauese you know if something goes wrong, it's a death sentence for your career. It's over. And it's in human hands, and by the very nature of it being in human hands, there's a potential for error.
I'd like to sit here and believe it's gone through all the processes to make sure it's done right and no one would go out on a limb without making sure it was checked, checked and back-checked, but I also know that the course of history shows that humans make mistakes even when they check, check and re-check. That's why airplanes crash. That's how things go.
There's mixed emotions for sure on my end. I wish the pool of athletes that compete and make money like we do – whether it's here in NASCAR or the NFL – it would be my preference that we're allowed to take nothing, and that's it your job to just do it. To just go out there and perform through the pain or whatever ails you. But obviously, that's not the situation. Until we get together as a society and make that a position, there's always going to be this gray area in society of what supplement is right and what is not.
I laugh out loud when I read that people say, 'Well I have my supplements checked.' Like there's some special list of supplements that are OK, but these aren't! What kind of world is that? That's terrible. Nothing should be allowed. Because then it comes down to if you've got a doctor or a lawyer who says, 'This is OK and this is not.' And I think we all know you can get a doctor or a lawyer these days to say you're OK with anything you do.
It reminds me of an old Jeff Foxworthy joke about the difference between kids and senior citizens: You worry about drugs with both of them, the only difference is one is legal and one is not. I remember having grandmas and so forth that took drugs that would knock you out. They couldn't even stand up. And they were all legal. They might not be legal in this sport, but you still have to wonder about those things.
I'm sure I have different views than everyone else. I don't think there needs to be any committee that approves drugs or supplements because I think you shouldn't be allowed to take anything. You should just man up and drive the damn race car.

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I knew he said some stupid things, but ban Flintstone vitamins? I think he is looking to get riled up for Loudon, and he couldn't find Montoya.​
 
That has nothing to do with taking unregulated supplements. There could be just about anything in an over the counter supplement and you wouldn't know it.

There could be just about anything in energy drinks, sodas or anything you eat. Should drivers only eat bread and only drink water? :rolleyes:

I wonder how the view is from Brad's high horse.
 
Brad picked a piss poor time to express his feelings on the supplements we all know AJ takes. His comments on vitamins is just bizzare. I tweeted him my displeasure, and he reponded that he wasn't talking about AJ. I hope someone explains to him that you can't seperate those comments from current news.
 
Brad picked a piss poor time to express his feelings on the supplements we all know AJ takes. His comments on vitamins is just bizzare. I tweeted him my displeasure, and he reponded that he wasn't talking about AJ. I hope someone explains to him that you can't seperate those comments from current news.

Have teammates at Penske ever gotten along?
 
There could be just about anything in energy drinks, sodas or anything you eat. Should drivers only eat bread and only drink water? :rolleyes:

I wonder how the view is from Brad's high horse.

Why would you say BB&T sucks ? Aren't they a Nascar sponsor? Do we have too many of them ?
 
I understand the need for a substance abuse policy, but it sounds like it's too broad. An energy supplement or vitamin should not be seen in the same light by the sanctioning body as what Shane Hmiel and Jeremy Mayfield were on while racing on track.
 
Why would you say BB&T sucks ? Aren't they a Nascar sponsor? Do we have too many of them ?

The only thing they don't have a fee for (yet) is using your debit card to make a purchase.

It's alright, I'll be opening an account with a different financial institution on Monday.
 
I understand the need for a substance abuse policy, but it sounds like it's too broad. An energy supplement or vitamin should not be seen in the same light by the sanctioning body as what Shane Hmiel and Jeremy Mayfield were on while racing on track.
I never really understood the link either . To a limited extent , I can see steriods and hgh giving atheletes a competitive advantage . And I suppose steroids may have some negative side effects . But to compare them to crack cocaine or worse seems a stretch .The public just sees the word 'drugs' and makes a conclusion.
 
The only thing they don't have a fee for (yet) is using your debit card to make a purchase.

It's alright, I'll be opening an account with a different financial institution on Monday.

And they differ from other financial institutions how ?
 
I never really understood the link either . To a limited extent , I can see steriods and hgh giving atheletes a competitive advantage . And I suppose steroids may have some negative side effects . But to compare them to crack cocaine or worse seems a stretch .The public just sees the word 'drugs' and makes a conclusion.

"Zero tolerance" is a bad policy in any sector. Every case should be decided on its own merit. Kind of like mandatory sentences in criminal cases.
 
A $14 monthly charge is grotesque.

PNC Bank offers free checking, free ATM withdraws (from any ATM).

Do you really think that a Nascar forum is the best place to express your displeasure with a bank ? Maybe you could send a letter to the editor of a newspaper.
 
It's Brad. People ask him questions and he answers them. Sometimes he's wrong and sometimes he's right. I just like that he doesn't care whether or not people like what he says. These are his Halcion days. Its goods that he's having so much fun.
 
I like Brad, I like Brad saying what he thinks. But that doesnt mean he should say the first thing that pops up in his head about this case. He just sounds like a young man or a kid in this case. I am not really into superteams and the crap, but in this case he should at least think of Penske if not AJ.


Plus there is nothing gained or accomplished by piling on AJ. I fear he is damaged regardless of what we learn in the next week, and if it is becomes clear that AJ is a substance abuser, Nascar will give him a big enough whipping without anyone elses help.


I dont think it matters if someone like AJ or not, his lifes dream and work is on the line. Some decency should be exercised to insure we all live justly (not directed toward RF, I am speaking of all those who want to believe the worse). This isnt like the Mayfeild case, and eventually the facts will be made public, and there will be plenty of time to factually determine if AJ deserves another shot.
 
Well said Greg. Media types are telling Brad they love him saying whatever he thinks. He should be aware of their motives for keeping the presses rolling. Saying what you think is cool, but a little discretion on timing wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
Do you really think that a Nascar forum is the best place to express your displeasure with a bank ? Maybe you could send a letter to the editor of a newspaper.

This should teach you a lesson for asking him about his BB&T sig. :eek:
 
Well said Greg. Media types are telling Brad they love him saying whatever he thinks. He should be aware of their motives for keeping the presses rolling. Saying what you think is cool, but a little discretion on timing wouldn't be a bad thing.

Does Brad have a gf? if not he needs one, and I need to see her primpy heeling around during the pre race show.
 
Some say he was messing around with the new Miss Sprint cup, but who knows.

I just think if had a gf he wouldnt be allowed to speak as freely, a sign of no training or housebreaking imo. He strikes me as one that hasn't had the "yes my dear you are right" moment yet.
 
I just think if had a gf he wouldnt be allowed to speak as freely, a sign of no training or housebreaking imo. He strikes me as one that hasn't had the "yes my dear you are right" moment yet.

ha Lucky him. I remember those.
 
Why I agree with most of Keselowski's comments in that article, the timing could not have been worse. I don't like these supplements used to improve performance, if they truly are gifted and special athletes then they should be so on their own. As far as the Flinstone comment he took it a little far there. Vitamins are one thing, banned supplements are another. I just think maybe his thoughts on the topic could've waited. A.J. is still his teammate and may be cleared after "B" sample is tested and I don't see A.J. taking those comments in anyway but personal.
 
There could be just about anything in energy drinks, sodas or anything you eat. Should drivers only eat bread and only drink water? :rolleyes:

I wonder how the view is from Brad's high horse.

Why would you say BB&T sucks ? Aren't they a Nascar sponsor? Do we have too many of them ?

And they differ from other financial institutions how ?

Do you really think that a Nascar forum is the best place to express your displeasure with a bank ? Maybe you could send a letter to the editor of a newspaper.

YOU asked him about his bank and he responded.
 
What is he, 28. I'd say he has a couple more good years of the single life before he hangs a trophy noose around his neck.
 
I have a feeling Brad was playing the eat pizza, drink beer and go racing to be an every man routine. Really, REALLY dumb comments, IMO.

Just when I was starting to like the guy and maybe actually consider him my favorite driver he goes out and says some off the wall, totally crazy crap like this. I've taken supplements for the last 20 years quite steadily, there are many over the counter brands that are highly trustworthy and certify their ingredients. Brad made a huge mistake IMO with that rant, hope it doesn't bite him in the ass down the road when he is looking for a sponsor and a supplement company is the only one available.
 
Just when I was starting to like the guy and maybe actually consider him my favorite driver he goes out and says some off the wall, totally crazy crap like this. I've taken supplements for the last 20 years quite steadily, there are many over the counter brands that are highly trustworthy and certify their ingredients. Brad made a huge mistake IMO with that rant, hope it doesn't bite him in the ass down the road when he is looking for a sponsor and a supplement company is the only one available.

He has a history of saying off the wall stuff. It's one of the things I like about him. What bothered me was his lack of compassion for AJ. Saying that even if his B sample comes back negative, his career is over was just plain cruel.....and totally wrong. It's almost like he wants AJ gone.
 
He has a history of saying off the wall stuff. It's one of the things I like about him. What bothered me was his lack of compassion for AJ. Saying that even if his B sample comes back negative, his career is over was just plain cruel.....and totally wrong. It's almost like he wants AJ gone.

It appears , at least on the surface, that he doesn't like AJ too much or doesn't consider him a good teamate. I think it will be highly unlikely that Nascar reverses it decision and it probably will be a long time before AJ races again, at least in Nascar anyway.
 
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