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ted@economy said:
I like the Travis experiment . I think that it's great that Nascar is making attempts , successful or not , to try to bring in a younger fan base .If they were doing nothing , we would be on them for that.
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Travis is a very likeable young man. My son got his autograph and talked to him for a minute at Phoenix. Always smiling and seemed to enjoy being around his fans. He made my sons day .......... heck he made his whole weekend. Travis was the only driver my son wanted to meet
 
Kyle18fan said:
Travis is a very likeable young man. My son got his autograph and talked to him for a minute at Phoenix. Always smiling and seemed to enjoy being around his fans. He made my sons day .......... heck he made his whole weekend. Travis was the only driver my son wanted to meet
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I'm quite sure that if I ever get my 13 yr old grandson to a race , Travis will be the only driver that he will want to meet .
 
ted@economy said:
I'm quite sure that if I ever get my 13 yr old grandson to a race , Travis will be the only driver that he will want to meet .
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My son has a ton of respect for Kyle Busch but like I said it was all about Travis. My son is 23 and doesnt get to worked up about things, he was really stoked about meeting Travis.
I hope you get that grandson to a race .................. Bet he will be hooked :)
 
StandOnIt said:
personally I think JJ was sandbagging. He took his time, let his tires heat up, never raced hard side by side in less he was in a tight spot. If that goofy Kahne had a car that fast he would have been so far out front everybody would have known something was up. Jimmie got out front and didn't push it.
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I agree ................ Pretty sure there was more if needed
 
Mr. Gregory said:
Jimmie used to whine more than he does now, but then again, when you're winning five consecutive championships and a whole bunch of races along the way, you're not gonna have a whole lot to whine about.

But in reference to Brad, again, can anyone provide a link to a video or transcript of this whining we're talking about? I just watched his ESPN post-race interview again, and all he said in reference to Jimmie was "his car was so much faster than the field. It was pretty embarassing, to be quite honest, but that's the way it goes and we'll work and try to get better." I see absolutely no problem with that. Did he say something else in another interview that I missed?
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yeah, this thread is a farce.

But I'm more pissed that Brad has once again rolled over for a guy who wrecks him. He talks tough, but he has no balls.
 
FenderBumper said:
yeah, this thread is a farce.

But I'm more pissed that Brad has once again rolled over for a guy who wrecks him. He talks tough, but he has no balls.
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You mean when he helped Kyle clean his grille then gave him back his position ??? I loved that one :laugh:
 
Backing away from threats to wreck him is one thing, but why the hell would he help a guy who straight up wrecked him and admitted it on national TV? Ass licking at it's worst.
 
FenderBumper said:
Backing away from threats to wreck him is one thing, but why the hell would he help a guy who straight up wrecked him and admitted it on national TV? Ass licking at it's worst.
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Brad hasnt forgotten............... I guarantee that he will get his satisfaction one way or another. In the meantime Kyle has to sweat and keep wondering when.
 
FenderBumper said:
Backing away from threats to wreck him is one thing, but why the hell would he help a guy who straight up wrecked him and admitted it on national TV? Ass licking at it's worst.
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Maybe because after cooling down, Brad realized it was just racing?

 
gordonite said:
Maybe because after cooling down, Brad realized it was just racing?
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But it wasn't just racing. Kyle himself said so. He said Brad was racing him real hard when he got tight off the corner and could have lifted but decided to drive "right thru it". By those rules, Brad should have wrecked Kyle 3 or 4 times at WG this year. Letting a guy drive all over you like Kyle did at WG, then let him wreck you because you race him hard is rolling over and putting his ass in the air for more.
 
FenderBumper said:
But it wasn't just racing. Kyle himself said so. He said Brad was racing him real hard when he got tight off the corner and could have lifted but decided to drive "right thru it". By those rules, Brad should have wrecked Kyle 3 or 4 times at WG this year. Letting a guy drive all over you like Kyle did at WG, then let him wreck you because you race him hard is rolling over and putting his ass in the air for more.
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Kyle said he was tight and decided to "drive through the tight." Not drive through Brad.

I guess you think Denny should have wrecked Brad a few more times too then?


 
gordonite said:
Kyle said he was tight and decided to "drive through the tight." Not drive through Brad.

I guess you think Denny should have wrecked Brad a few more times too then?


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lol He made the choice to drive thru BOTH.

You don't understand racing much, do you? When you're up against another drivers quarter panel, you either let off or drive thru it and wreck the guy.
 
I understand racing very well. Just because a driver decides to hold his line and stay in the gas doesn't automatically mean his intent is to wreck the guy. Sometimes yes, but not always.

I also understand some opinions about racing incidents are based on how much the person likes or dislikes a certain driver.

When Brad decided to hold his line and stay in the gas in the video's I posted, did that mean Brad intended to wreck Denny? If so I guess he's no better than Kyle.
 
gordonite said:
I understand racing very well. Just because a driver decides to hold his line and stay in the gas doesn't automatically mean his intent is to wreck the guy. Sometimes yes, but not always.

I also understand some opinions about racing incidents are based on how much the person likes or dislikes a certain driver.

When Brad decided to hold his line and stay in the gas in the video's I posted, did that mean Brad intended to wreck Denny? If so I guess he's no better than Kyle.
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Err, you're confused. Kyle DIDN'T hold his line. That's the whole point of "I was tight"....as in the car didn't turn when it was supposed to...as in 'here comes the Dog leg, turn now'. :rolleyes:

Kyle did to Brad EXACTLY what Harvick did to Joey at Pocono.

If you want an example of 'hold your line while the guy chops your front end and wrecks himself', watch this....

 
SpeedPagan said:
Ehh, I'm sorry but I don't want a whinny crybaby representing my sport. Brad K need to take the next few years and learn how to be an adult before he tries to content for another Championship.
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Well to be fair Johnson has done some crying this year about restarts and cautions that have messed up his chances of winning, so should he not be representing the sport either? Don't say it's not whining cause it is.
 
Blaze88 said:
Well to be fair Johnson has done some crying this year about restarts and cautions that have messed up his chances of winning, so should he not be representing the sport either? Don't say it's not whining cause it is.
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Different type of whining.

What Jimmie does, everyone is guilty of.

In the heat of the moment you will cry about anything, jumped restarts, cautions, laying back etc.

Brad takes it just abit further by accusing not only drivers but whole organizations of cheating.

When was the last time you saw Jimmie do that? Or a past champion for that matter.
 
FenderBumper said:
Err, you're confused. Kyle DIDN'T hold his line. That's the whole point of "I was tight"....as in the car didn't turn when it was supposed to...as in 'here comes the Dog leg, turn now'. :rolleyes:

Kyle did to Brad EXACTLY what Harvick did to Joey at Pocono.

If you want an example of 'hold your line while the guy chops your front end and wrecks himself', watch this....

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I musta finally slipped over the edge Fender, I couldn't understand anything they said. :confused:
 
FenderBumper said:
Err, you're confused. Kyle DIDN'T hold his line. That's the whole point of "I was tight"....as in the car didn't turn when it was supposed to...as in 'here comes the Dog leg, turn now'. :rolleyes:

Kyle did to Brad EXACTLY what Harvick did to Joey at Pocono.

If you want an example of 'hold your line while the guy chops your front end and wrecks himself', watch this....

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You don't like Kyle so of course he wrecked Brad (your favorite driver) on purpose. You jump from one side of the fence to the other depending on which driver you like and which you don't like.

You said... "When you're up against another drivers quarter panel, you either let off or drive thru it and wreck the guy." In the videos I posted, couldn't Brad have also let off? Did he decide to drive through it and wreck Denny? He gets a pass on that from you while Kyle was wrong for not lifting. You won't even acknowledge those videos. lol

It seems your opinions are based on how much you like or dislike a certain driver. It's so typical.
 
Kyle18fan said:
On the radio at Texas --------- they played it on the "race hub" tonight
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Finally, somebody clears it up for me. Thank you. I can't find a clip or anything but at this point I barely even care anymore.

FenderBumper said:
yeah, this thread is a farce.

But I'm more pissed that Brad has once again rolled over for a guy who wrecks him. He talks tough, but he has no balls.
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I agree 100% with your first sentence. The second part not so much. As Kyle18fan said, you know Brad hasn't forgotten what Kyle did, and drivers don't always pay each other back immediately. It may even take another incident for Brad to decide to retaliate. Look at Gordon/Bowyer. Gordon was mad about some stuff that started at the first Martinsville race and waited 'till the second Phoenix race to get even.

And honestly, as an unbiased Brad fan and a guy that doesn't hate Kyle, I'm mostly unconcerned about it. If Brad wrecks Kyle, he wrecks him. If he doesn't, he doesn't. I won't think any more or less of him either way.
 
I like Brad. I was borderline a fan of his some time ago. He tells the truth and tells things like it is, but I think its great to see someone like him and I mean he will not change the face of NASCAR alone, but I would like to see more personality and less of this PR robot nonsense. It wears on me enough sometimes, especially with Johnson and Kahne, I mean he has the personality of a damn banana peel sometimes and I just cannot stand his vanilla personality.

I like drivers with a bit of an edge sometimes. I grew up watching and liking drivers like Dale Sr., Villeneuve, and JPM. Show some edge sometimes, its good to see.
 
Kiante said:
I like Brad. I was borderline a fan of his some time ago. He tells the truth and tells things like it is, but I think its great to see someone like him and I mean he will not change the face of NASCAR alone, but I would like to see more personality and less of this PR robot nonsense. It wears on me enough sometimes, especially with Johnson and Kahne, I mean he has the personality of a damn banana peel sometimes and I just cannot stand his vanilla personality.

I like drivers with a bit of an edge sometimes. I grew up watching and liking drivers like Dale Sr., Villeneuve, and JPM. Show some edge sometimes, its good to see.
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Yep, I like Brad for the same reasons. I liked him when he was driving for Junior in Nationwide and was feuding with Denny, but after he originally went to Penske I soured on him. When he got into his car crashing contest with Carl, I took Carl's side. Eventually he settled down a bit and I started to warm up to him again. Then in the Chase last year, he somehow stayed right there in the hunt with Johnson the whole time and eventually won it, driving for a two car team and a lame duck manufacturer, and that really impressed me.

Brad comes across to me as a real dude. Mind you, I don't agree with every single thing he says or does, and when you are as outspoken as he is, you're bound to make a misstep or two from time to time. But he can always be counted on to give an honest, candid opinion whether anyone likes or agrees with him or not, and I respect that. He has also publicly apologized when he's been wrong, as he did with David Ragan after Talladega. At the end of the day, Brad is what he is, take it or leave it. I'll take it.

That said, it takes all kinds in NASCAR, and I have nothing against the so-called vanilla robots like Kenseth, Johnson, and Kahne, who I have also warmed up to this year after a long period of disliking him. They are just fine as they are. If all the drivers were exactly like Brad, Harvick, the Busch Bros., etc., none of them would stand out. They make different flavors of ice cream for a reason. :)
 
You guys...... There is nothing that Brad does that all your favorite drivers havent done. He never said the 48 cheated first of all. Also, Junior hinted at cheating accusations before and no one cared. Also also Johnson and Knaus HAVE a history of cheating anyway. Also Also Also he speaks his mind which is what ( i thought ) everyone was all upset that no one was doing anymore. I dont get it.
 
Rightly or wrongly , Brad says what comes into his mind . He will learn to consult his publicist first and be more whitebread eventually.
 
ted@economy said:
Rightly or wrongly , Brad says what comes into his mind . He will learn to consult his publicist first and be more whitebread eventually.
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I have no problem with brad saying what he wants to, but that doesn't make it true.
 
TchainT said:
Also also Johnson and Knaus HAVE a history of cheating anyway.
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Name one team that doesn't have a history of cheating. Also, keep in mind that this is a sport that celebrates Smokey Yunick, a very well known cheater.

As the old saying goes, it ain't cheating unless you get caught.
 
SpeedPagan said:
Name one team that doesn't have a history of cheating. Also, keep in mind that this is a sport that celebrates Smokey Yunick, a very well known cheater.

As the old saying goes, it ain't cheating unless you get caught.
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Also goes... "If ya ain't cheating, ya ain't trying"

My main issue is with Kez's repeated insinuation that the 48 team cheats. When he continues to question the integrity of arguably the greatest driver/team of this generation I think it hurts all of NASCAR. Do some teams operate in gray areas and stray from it? Sure they do, particularily the 48 team because they are constantly pushing the boundaries of what is legal and what is not. However when fans hear last years champ spouting off about how JJ's a cheat it hurts the integrity of the entire sport. Cheating and innovation can be one in the same in some instances and NASCAR was built on innovation. I just feel as though his comments serve as continued attempt to downplay JJ's success and dismiss their hardwork as nothing more than cheating.

I really enjoy watching Kez drive, he's a fantastic talent behind the wheel but he portrays himself and Penske Racing as some sort of innocent victims of HMS's cheating and I'm really getting sick of it. The hipocrasy of his comments is what's most absurd to me, considering how the tricked out rear gear setups were explicitly banned for this year, yet he was running them up until they got caught with it.
 
SpeedPagan said:
Name one team that doesn't have a history of cheating. Also, keep in mind that this is a sport that celebrates Smokey Yunick, a very well known cheater.

As the old saying goes, it ain't cheating unless you get caught.
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Yeah, im just saying i dont understand the witch hunt for brad. Any driver who didnt win the race has something to complain about. every driver does it. I just dont understand how people want drivers to be more outspoken and then complain every time a driver is outspoken.
 
TchainT said:
...I just dont understand how people want drivers to be more outspoken and then complain every time a driver is outspoken.
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Fans have a right to be outspoken too. I like when drivers are outspoken or do crazy things like Harvick, Tony, or Kyle sometimes do. It's very entertaining. I also like calling them a jackass when I think it's appropriate.

I don't like all this talk about how the fans need to do this or do that for the good of the sport. They want us to keep spending our money on races and merchandise, then tell us we shouldn't say anything bad about anything nascar for fear of scaring off the sponsors or the drivers.
I swear it's like some people want to take all the fun out of being a nascar fan.

Brad has the right to say whatever he damn well pleases. And so do the fans.
 
TchainT said:
Yeah, im just saying i dont understand the witch hunt for brad. Any driver who didnt win the race has something to complain about. every driver does it. I just dont understand how people want drivers to be more outspoken and then complain every time a driver is outspoken.
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I still like Brad, but going to the cheater well over and over is pathetic. The bottom line is if nascar isn't fining them, HMS is playing the game just right. Penske needs to learn from them and do the same. They sure messed it up last year by missing the 'no elongated mounting holes' part of the rear end rule.
 
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