Kyle Busch...running out of talent or racing angry?

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Slides up and up and upp until he wrecks Ragan.



Runs into the back of Kahne on lap 33 and wrecks a bunch of cars. It's not like Kahne checks up, and neither does Kyle.



Lap 43 at Talladega, Kyle needs to hit Kahne twice to wreck him, and about 10 other cars. (Ignore the nut huggers excuses. Ambrose doesn't touch Kyle)



Then with the win on the line, he decides to drive straight off the apex and take Kahne out. Just like Kahne said after the race, he just decided to go straight in the middle of the turn and took him out.



Just when you think Kyle has matured, he starts this sheet. I hope he doesn't ***** out, because I want to see some action from Kahne.
 
If he had taken out KK in one race then two other drivers in two other races I'd agree that he's racing angry or out of talent. But the same guy? 3 times in 11 races? Somethings going on we don't know about.

Hard to imagine KK going all spider monkey on him but I'd love to see it if he takes him out a fourth time.:) .

There are no "team orders" but I don't think KB should be looking for a racing break from anyone at HMS, or any other teams in the Chevy camp
 
When I first saw the Darlington incident, the first question I thought of is what does KuBusch have against Kahne. But after seeing the multiple replays and the lack of damage to Kahne's LR quarterpanel, I don't think Busch touched him. But I think he came as close as he can without doing so.
 
Both at Daytona and at Talladega, Bush turns Kasey because he thinks he can get away with it and drive off while eliminating the competition. If Kasey didn't hit the wall and bounce back at Talladega, he would have got away with it twice.
 
Yeah im not so sure that theres much angry driving by him this season. And I dont know if there was much intention at Darlington to actually wreck.
 
FB, he definitely had a brain fart at Talladega, and it was early enough in the race that I doubt it had anything to do with anger. But I bet he wasn't happy after it was over.;):)
 
Thanks for taking the time to dig it up FB. When Kyle has "bad luck" I will remember what goes around, comes around.:)
 
mike honcho said:
I say neither.He's just being a dick.
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That goes without saying.
AndyMarquisLive said:
I think we're closing in on the annual Kyle Busch meltdown.
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Yep
AndyMarquisLive said:
I thought Kyle had outgrown mocking the fans. He hasn't matured one bit.
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I caught that too. Same old, same old.
Nitro Dude said:
FB, he definitely had a brain fart at Talladega, and it was early enough in the race that I doubt it had anything to do with anger. But I bet he wasn't happy after it was over.;):)
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The fact that Kyle first said 'maybe Kasey shouldn't have made that move' (coming up in front of him) tells me he was pissed.
 
FenderBumper said:
That goes without saying.

Yep

I caught that too. Same old, same old.

The fact that Kyle first said 'maybe Kasey shouldn't have made that move' (coming up in front of him) tells me he was pissed.
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I didn't hear him say that because I don't pay that much attention to what he says half the time. But I believe you, so you don't need to look it up and show me.:) He is not sharing any of his earnings with me so I can take him or leave him.:D I like watching him race, but because of some of the things he says and some of the things he does on the track, I'm far from being a fan. I know that there are a lot of fans that will never like him "and for a good reason" but if his manager wants to try and do any kind of damage control at all...then they need to tell him to start ignoring the booing fans, because mocking them is not going to win them over.;)
 
Nitro Dude said:
I didn't hear him say that because I don't pay that much attention to what he says half the time. But I believe you, so you don't need to look it up and show me.:) He is not sharing any of his earnings with me so I can take him or leave him.:D I like watching him race but, because of some of the things he says and some of the things he does on the track, I'm far from being a fan. I know that there are a lot of fans that will never like him "and for a good reason" but if his manager wants to try and do any kind of damage control at all...then they need to tell him to start ignoring the booing fans, because mocking them is not going to win them over.;)
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When it comes to making others angry, there are two types of people: those who get off on it and those who don't. Kyle Busch is the former. Personally, I can't imagine taking pleasure in another's anger but thats just the way the planets spin :D
 
Just a message for the lug nuts who think that Kyle must be cheating to win so much and lead so much. What Kyle does is search and find the ragged edge , then try and go even farther . Yeah , he's going to crash some ,and slide up the track , etc ., because he's intentionally overdriving his equipment . Kurt does the same thing .
 
The thread is more melt downy than Kyle. Saturday night was subjective and just hard racing. Kyle didnt finish in the top5 and he wasnt obligated to grant an interview. After having a bad tire to cost him the race saying nothing was the best, Goodyear is a partner and only sweet talk is allowed.

It is a slow news day, but get a grip.
There is also a vulgar quality about believing the worse in people and windbagging relentlessly about them not meeting standards you would impose
 
Kasey should wall him. Anyone who believes a driver as talented as Kyle 'accidentally' wrecks the same guy 3 times in 11 races is out of touch. Hell, Talladega was blatent because he had to throttle up to get to Kasey's outside and turn him. I'm just happy he's been DNF'ing himself too. Dirty driver for sure.
 
ted@economy said:
Just a message for the lug nuts who think that Kyle must be cheating to win so much and lead so much. What Kyle does is search and find the ragged edge , then try and go even farther . Yeah , he's going to crash some ,and slide up the track , etc ., because he's intentionally overdriving his equipment . Kurt does the same thing .
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got no problem with his overdriving the car on the ragged edge, he just keeps forgetting there is a car in front of him Ted. :)
 
So Kasey gets loose and loses his car (not a mark on either car that would indicate contact) in front Kyle but Kyle gets blamed.

Seems about right.
 
Greg said:
The thread is more melt downy than Kyle. Saturday night was subjective and just hard racing. Kyle didnt finish in the top5 and he wasnt obligated to grant an interview. After having a bad tire to cost him the race saying nothing was the best, Goodyear is a partner and only sweet talk is allowed.

It is a slow news day, but get a grip.
There is also a vulgar quality about believing the worse in people and windbagging relentlessly about them not meeting standards you would impose
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You've been around here long enough to know that this just what some of these people do. They can't help it. And if not for these trolling meltdown threads there'd be scant else to discuss. Let them rant and rave. It's funny.:)
 
There's a lot of drivers that drive on that ragged edge difference is they can control it. Bush is letting the car drive him. Also his driving with attitude doesn't help.
 
FenderBumper said:
Kasey should wall him. Anyone who believes a driver as talented as Kyle 'accidentally' wrecks the same guy 3 times in 11 races is out of touch. Hell, Talladega was blatent because he had to throttle up to get to Kasey's outside and turn him. I'm just happy he's been DNF'ing himself too. Dirty driver for sure.
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I agree Kahne needs to take the gloves off just to establish some boundaries.
I just think Kyles talent isnt a questionable thing, and the anger thing is just too convenient in applying the past to the present.
Saturday was just an aggressive driver in the grey area, I dont see the merit of the anger accusation
Ex. Running Hornaday into the wall at Texas 2011 was premeditated anger. He ran /rammed him about half a lap, the scripting could be seen.

Saturday night was reflexive and again Kahne needs to lay down some rules of engagement, but drivers crossing the slippery slope, isnt thst uncommon, it is part of aggressive racing, it happens all the time.
 
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With attaboys for the original ones and the biggest ones.
 
Greg said:
I agree Kahne needs to take the gloves off just to establish some boundaries.
I just think Kyles talent isnt a questionable thing, and the anger thing is just too convenient in applying the past to the present.
Saturday was just an aggressive driver in the grey area, I dont see the merit of the anger accusation
Ex. Running Hornaday into the wall at Texas 2011 was premeditated anger. He ran /rammed him about half a lap, the scripting could be seen.

Saturday night was reflexive and again Kahne needs to lay down some rules of engagement, but drivers crossing the slippery slope, isnt thst uncommon, it is part of aggressive racing, it happens all the time.
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I'm basing it on the way Kyle ran that corner after Kasey had crowded him on exit twice, and how Kyle did next to nothing to stay off Kasey. At Talladega, there is was excuse for the way Kyle moved to the outside and turned Kasey. It's just not a racing move in that situation, but it sure could be a response to Kyle's complaint that Kasey jumped up in front of him and broke his momentum.
 
I still stand behind what I said yesterday about Darlington. It was good hard racing between Kasey and Kyle while it lasted and it was probably the most exciting time of the race when they were going at it. It sucks that Kasey couldn't save his car but I have seen a lot of other drivers save a car that was alot more out of control then his was. Even though I may not agree with everything that Kyle does on and off the track, I still feel he is one of the best drivers out there. As far as if there is something going on between Kasey and Kyle...I don't know, but I'm sure we will all find out soon. Five more days and counting.
 
Daytona, I think, was a mistake. So was Talladega, but Kyle should've learned after the 500 you can't really go bumper-to-bumper on the plate tracks anymore. Saturday, it looked like he drove it in way too deep. Hard racing or frustration, I can't tell. He could've been pushing too hard since Kasey was the first to really test him all night.
 
Well this isnt a biased thread. All 3 were racing incedents.
 
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