'Majors' in NASCAR's future?

The track in Indiana seems far more important to (two for our special friends) NASCAR than it does to stock car fans.

See the stands. It's very easy - no one's sittin' on 'em to block the view.
 
I wonder which tracks the drivers think are worthy of being called a Major? It doesn't mater if NASCAR puts up a reward but there are some tracks that drivers want to win more than others.
 
Snappy D said:
I just want the Winston Million back, it was such a cool concept.
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Yeah, this. I do think Nascar is missing an opportunity to promote the crown jewel events as special, important races. I don't favor a fourth stage, not even in the 600. But I do favor an annual competition to recognize the team that scores best in the biggest races.

In last week's discussion about the schedule, I posted why I believe the Brickyard 400 is a legitimate crown jewel race alongside the Daytona 500, World 600, and Southern 500. Nascar needs to come up with a trophy and $1 million prize for the best team in these four races (most wins, ties broken by points). And I'd award 5 playoff points with the trophy too.
 
ToyYoda said:
So now we'll have "Game 7" moments to be like MLB, the NBA, and the NHL, we have "overtime" to be like the NFL, we have a final four to be like college basketball, and now we might have majors to be like golf and tennis.

I can't wait to see what NASCAR lifts from the world of bowling.
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They lift the turkey , any driver that wins three in a row, gets a free turkey and extra points

The Strike Zone, any driver that completes a pass in the strike zone gets extra points, and a free turkey
Or, the alt strike zone, any driver that knocks down all members of a rival team's pit crew gets a strike, extra points, and a turkey
 
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I'm okay with legacy races being awarded more points *if* the extra points are based on finishing results and don't come from extra stages.

I'd be real excited if these point changes came with *no* playoff format attached.

Hint hint, NASCAR leaders...
 
Might as well just bring in Vince McMahon at this point -- he made an empire out of 300 lb "wrestlers" in flamboyant leotards. I would've lost that bet.

He should be able to bring the spectacle back to NASCAR -- and why not? since NASCAR seems to be letting their Marketing Department make new formats and run the show anyway... :)
 
The early comment about fixing the cars first is spot on, but that's another thread.

I am open to new ideas, but this seems straight out of a gimmick jar.

I liked this year's recognition of a season champion (based on points) and a playoff champ. But NASCAR is not doing enough to promote the season champion concept. All the networks talk about is the Chase (or playoffs officially). The regular season champ should get huge recognition, a huge trophy and big money at the finish.
 
Stacy said:
Might as well just bring in Vince McMahon at this point -- he made an empire out of 300 lb "wrestlers" in flamboyant leotards. I would've lost that bet.

He should be able to bring the spectacle back to NASCAR -- and why not? since NASCAR seems to be letting their Marketing Department make new formats and run the show anyway... :)
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Vince has his own declining ratings and complaining fans to deal with.
 
Conover said:
The early comment about fixing the cars first is spot on, but that's another thread.

I am open to new ideas, but this seems straight out of a gimmick jar.

I liked this year's recognition of a season champion (based on points) and a playoff champ. But NASCAR is not doing enough to promote the season champion concept. All the networks talk about is the Chase (or playoffs officially). The regular season champ should get huge recognition, a huge trophy and big money at the finish.
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Does any other sport do that? Apart from hockey's President's Cup, which is sort of a nice thing to get but nobody really cares in the end (the Caps seem to win it every year and then lose in the first or second round of the playoffs), I can't think of anything like that.

It could possibly catch on if there was a big payday (if they could find someone to fund that) but is that really going to change much of the team strategy and activity? Making the Chase is still going to take precedence so they're not likely to do much points racing when there are wins and bonus points on the line.

I think there always just needs to be one Cup. How you get it can be tweaked, but adding other titles and prizes seems like a way to water down prestige (and interest) rather than boost it.
 
LewTheShoe said:
Yeah, this. I do think Nascar is missing an opportunity to promote the crown jewel events as special, important races. I don't favor a fourth stage, not even in the 600. But I do favor an annual competition to recognize the team that scores best in the biggest races.

In last week's discussion about the schedule, I posted why I believe the Brickyard 400 is a legitimate crown jewel race alongside the Daytona 500, World 600, and Southern 500. Nascar needs to come up with a trophy and $1 million prize for the best team in these four races (most wins, ties broken by points). And I'd award 5 playoff points with the trophy too.
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I like it, as long as we call it the Monster Million because it sounds badass.
 
superchuck500 said:
Does any other sport do that? Apart from hockey's President's Cup, which is sort of a nice thing to get but nobody really cares in the end (the Caps seem to win it every year and then lose in the first or second round of the playoffs), I can't think of anything like that.

It could possibly catch on if there was a big payday (if they could find someone to fund that) but is that really going to change much of the team strategy and activity? Making the Chase is still going to take precedence so they're not likely to do much points racing when there are wins and bonus points on the line.

I think there always just needs to be one Cup. How you get it can be tweaked, but adding other titles and prizes seems like a way to water down prestige (and interest) rather than boost it.
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I've been one that supports a regular season champion being crowned but you make some great points. Main reason I like the idea is to appease fan that dont necessarily like the playoff system but recognize that if thats done those fans are likely to check out after that point and might not watch the playoffs unless their driver was involved.
 
superchuck500 said:
Does any other sport do that? Apart from hockey's President's Cup, which is sort of a nice thing to get but nobody really cares in the end (the Caps seem to win it every year and then lose in the first or second round of the playoffs), I can't think of anything like that.

It could possibly catch on if there was a big payday (if they could find someone to fund that) but is that really going to change much of the team strategy and activity? Making the Chase is still going to take precedence so they're not likely to do much points racing when there are wins and bonus points on the line.

I think there always just needs to be one Cup. How you get it can be tweaked, but adding other titles and prizes seems like a way to water down prestige (and interest) rather than boost it.
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As far as I'm concerned, playoff champions are not real champions.
 
I may have suggested "Majors" multiple times in the NASCAR Fan Council Surveys...and I'm pretty sure I've mentioned it in the past on this forum as well. Oops :idunno:

But I really do like this idea (IF THERE WAS NO CHASE). In order to attract more viewers, this sport DOES need to make the big races feel even more special and the drivers should be rewarded more for winning these races. Double bonus points for the winner of the Daytona 500, Coke 600, Southern 500, Bristol night race, and season finale would be a good idea IMO. (Again...only if there was no Chase).
 
superchuck500 said:
Does any other sport do that? Apart from hockey's President's Cup, which is sort of a nice thing to get but nobody really cares in the end (the Caps seem to win it every year and then lose in the first or second round of the playoffs), I can't think of anything like that.

It could possibly catch on if there was a big payday (if they could find someone to fund that) but is that really going to change much of the team strategy and activity? Making the Chase is still going to take precedence so they're not likely to do much points racing when there are wins and bonus points on the line.

I think there always just needs to be one Cup. How you get it can be tweaked, but adding other titles and prizes seems like a way to water down prestige (and interest) rather than boost it.
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College sports are chock full of conference champions. Some fans seem to regard those as more important than national ones.
 
I just feel like 4 stages seem over the top. I don't mind the idea of incentivizing the big races: Daytona 500, Coke 600, Southern 500, Brickyard 400.

NASCAR can do a better job IMO than just adding more and more stages. Change the race win bonus to 10 points for those races instead of 5.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
College sports are chock full of conference champions. Some fans seem to regard those as more important than national ones.
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True, but I think that's completely different. College athletics originate from the conferences. They are their own entities with long histories, and offices, and rules and all of that. They are in effect a sanctioning body in their own right and they award a conference championship. If Nascar was similarly setup, it would make sense to have regional bodies that award championships, but then there's the top level body that sanctions the national championship.

The Cup series is a singular entity under one sanctioning body. It's much more like the professional leagues - but even those typically have divisions and conferences. I hadn't thought about it in my earlier post, but MLB has pennants for regular season success and it's a fairly big deal within the world of MLB to win one. But that's based on performance relative to the other teams in the division (or in the one of two "leagues" in MLB). There's some sense to that. Nascar doesn't have divisions or conferences. There's no reason to award that kind of title.

I think either you have a full-season point system and award a championship to that winner, or you have a playoff season and it's a winner-take-all.
 
They need to have every car equipped with an extendable "arm" on the right side that has a single finger.

At the midway and 3/4 points in each race, a yellow is thrown and a GOLD RING worth 10/15 bonus points will be elevated over the track at the start/finish line.

Starting with whoever is leading, each driver on the lead lap would get ONE SHOT at grabbing the GOLD RING and acquiring the bonus points.

Merry-go-rounds are all left turns too ya' know.
 
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