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Skoalbandit33
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Yeah, if thats up against opening week of the NFL thats not the best idea. Might be ok if the race was on a Saturday though.
Better hope the Irish, Hoosiers and Boilermakers are not playing.
Yeah, if thats up against opening week of the NFL thats not the best idea. Might be ok if the race was on a Saturday though.
I'm not trying to be a wise ass or start a flame war but from my short time on this bored I feel like most or all of us here are hard core race fans that really dont care about the casual fan that NASCAR is trying to bring in. In fact I would bet that most casual fans have let the sport from the time it was popular and dont even follow. So my question is if NASCAR does decide to run the Brickyard on NFL Week 1, why is it a big deal to us? We will watch anyway while casual fans will watch the NFL. I dont find Brickyard/Week 1 on the same day a big deal, I'll be watching both. well just Red Zone while watching the Race. I guess the dueling sentiments make me curious in terms of some hate the casual fan and blame them for the troubles NASCAR in by them trying to cater to a casual fan but then we have to worry about what time races are on and what other spot is opposite of that.
I don't think it's even a hardcore vs. casual fan thing. There are a lot of people, myself included, who are hardcore fans of both NASCAR and the NFL. In all likelihood, most of those fans will choose to watch the sport they haven't seen in seven months instead of a race that typically isn't very good. Plus, the playoff cutoff isn't nearly as important as it used to be, as the playoff fields are now pretty much set by the time we get to Race #26.I'm not trying to be a wise ass or start a flame war but from my short time on this bored I feel like most or all of us here are hard core race fans that really dont care about the casual fan that NASCAR is trying to bring in. In fact I would bet that most casual fans have let the sport from the time it was popular and dont even follow. So my question is if NASCAR does decide to run the Brickyard on NFL Week 1, why is it a big deal to us? We will watch anyway while casual fans will watch the NFL. I dont find Brickyard/Week 1 on the same day a big deal, I'll be watching both. well just Red Zone while watching the Race. I guess the dueling sentiments make me curious in terms of some hate the casual fan and blame them for the troubles NASCAR in by them trying to cater to a casual fan but then we have to worry about what time races are on and what other spot is opposite of that.
I'm not trying to be a wise ass or start a flame war but from my short time on this bored I feel like most or all of us here are hard core race fans that really dont care about the casual fan that NASCAR is trying to bring in. In fact I would bet that most casual fans have let the sport from the time it was popular and dont even follow. So my question is if NASCAR does decide to run the Brickyard on NFL Week 1, why is it a big deal to us? We will watch anyway while casual fans will watch the NFL. I dont find Brickyard/Week 1 on the same day a big deal, I'll be watching both. well just Red Zone while watching the Race. I guess the dueling sentiments make me curious in terms of some hate the casual fan and blame them for the troubles NASCAR in by them trying to cater to a casual fan but then we have to worry about what time races are on and what other spot is opposite of that.
Except the working television is probably on top of a non-working television.Perhaps some of the hardcore ol' timey NASCAR race fans have a VCR flashing 12:00 sitting beside the 17" black and white atop the fridge.
The Aaron's truck just showed up. All is well.Except the working television is probably on top of a non-working television.
Am I the only one who thinks Indy is a terrible cutoff race?
I'm not trying to be a wise ass or start a flame war but from my short time on this bored I feel like most or all of us here are hard core race fans that really dont care about the casual fan that NASCAR is trying to bring in. In fact I would bet that most casual fans have let the sport from the time it was popular and dont even follow. So my question is if NASCAR does decide to run the Brickyard on NFL Week 1, why is it a big deal to us? We will watch anyway while casual fans will watch the NFL. I dont find Brickyard/Week 1 on the same day a big deal, I'll be watching both. well just Red Zone while watching the Race. I guess the dueling sentiments make me curious in terms of some hate the casual fan and blame them for the troubles NASCAR in by them trying to cater to a casual fan but then we have to worry about what time races are on and what other spot is opposite of that.
Its a boring nascar race but the track still has a ton of prestige.I'm like you.....but @StandOnIt made me realize that some fans still think the brickyard has some prestige to it. To me it's absolutely one of the most boring races ever.
pay attention, if you are on here while the race is on, some of them will pop in and keep us informed on the latest stick n ball matchup and what we are missing lol...like somehow we can't change the channel if we want to. Poor souls can't go rah rah on a football forum lol
Except the working television is probably on top of a non-working television.
I'm like you.....but @StandOnIt made me realize that some fans still think the brickyard has some prestige to it. To me it's absolutely one of the most boring races ever.
I'm like you.....but @StandOnIt made me realize that some fans still think the brickyard has some prestige to it. To me it's absolutely one of the most boring races ever.
I think you would be hard pressed to find many fans who think the Brickyard has any prestige.
Highest rated broadcast ever on NBCSN was the 2015 Brickyard 400.
So, yeah, a lot of fans still think it's a prestigious race. Personally, I think it's a terrible, boring race. C'est la vie.
Most that boost the ratings I believe are indycar people who are fans of the track more than Nascar racing there.
Not just fans. Two years ago the Century Poll (50% media/50% garage) voted the Brickyard 400 third as events that would comprise a NASCAR "Grand Slam", behind only the Daytona 500 and Southern 500.I'm like you.....but @StandOnIt made me realize that some fans still think the brickyard has some prestige to it. To me it's absolutely one of the most boring races ever.
My uncle went to the brickyard in 2013
Said the atmosphere was depressing
Honestly, I don't think it matters much where it is. Richmond hasn't been a good cutoff race in years either. When there are sixteen spots available and almost everyone important is locked in already there's not a whole lot of intrigue. It's like deciding which 41-41 NBA team is going to be the #8 seed on the final day of the season. Playoff points may change that slightly this year.Prestige does nothing to make it a good cutoff
It might not even be a road course race next year. It could still wind up being a restrictor plate race.Is the Brickyard still going to be the Brickyard 400? That would make for a really long, 4+ hour race on a road course (Sonoma is 217 miles and Watkins Glen is 220 miles). Perhaps a conversion to kilometers?
I doubt that. Open Wheel die-hards think stock cars at the Brickyard is an abomination.
I doubt that. Open Wheel die-hards think stock cars at the Brickyard is an abomination.
I think it's a terrible race, period.Am I the only one who thinks Indy is a terrible cutoff race?
I wouldn't call myself a casual fan, but anytime the Falcons are on TV I'm going to watch it over anything, that goes for NASCAR, Wrestling, or anything else I follow. I do pull the race up on my laptop but, I pay way way more attention to the Football game.
For me it is, 38 weeks a year and its that simple.The NFL is appointment TV on a weekly basis. NASCAR is not and it is that simple..
No doubt they did this to make Indy relevant again.Assuming the Indy race remains "The Brickyard", that's going to be one hell of a post race show between covering the prestige of winning the race, plus going over who made it into the playoffs and interviewing all of the drivers.
You mean the added debris cautions?Probably so, but it will give fans like me a better reason to watch. The stages for sure will help the bore fest, it will at least give a couple of laps of racing for each stage until they get single file.
Preach it, FL. Racers from around the world covet a win at Indy. MotoGP riders and teams were not fond of the course layout nor the pavement (prior to the repave), but were awed by the opportunity to race at IMS. They voted Indy their favorite event of the year several times. F1 drivers and teams felt the same way. And so do most all of the Nascar guys. Saying the Brickyard 400 doesn't have immense prestige is just wrong.Not just fans. Two years ago the Century Poll (50% media/50% garage) voted the Brickyard 400 third as events that would comprise a NASCAR "Grand Slam", behind only the Daytona 500 and Southern 500.
It's a snoozer for the most part, but as a Chase race that might change things.Preach it, FL. Racers from around the world covet a win at Indy. MotoGP riders and teams were not fond of the course layout nor the pavement (prior to the repave), but were awed by the opportunity to race at IMS. They voted Indy their favorite event of the year several times. F1 drivers and teams felt the same way. And so do most all of the Nascar guys. Saying the Brickyard 400 doesn't have immense prestige is just wrong.
I wouldn't be in favor of 36 races per year on tracks that race like Indy. But for one race, I appreciate the challenge and difficulty of the Indy oval. It is a completely different challenge from every other track, and it rewards driver skill and set-up skill handsomely. It is a fascinating race IMO, and one of Nascar's crown jewels along with Daytona 500, World 600, and Southern 500. (Last year, Indy had a lot more passing at the front than the 600, BTW.)
I'd like to see the trucks run there
Preach it, FL. Racers from around the world covet a win at Indy. MotoGP riders and teams were not fond of the course layout nor the pavement (prior to the repave), but were awed by the opportunity to race at IMS. They voted Indy their favorite event of the year several times. F1 drivers and teams felt the same way. And so do most all of the Nascar guys. Saying the Brickyard 400 doesn't have immense prestige is just wrong.
I wouldn't be in favor of 36 races per year on tracks that race like Indy. But for one race, I appreciate the challenge and difficulty of the Indy oval. It is a completely different challenge from every other track, and it rewards driver skill and set-up skill handsomely. It is a fascinating race IMO, and one of Nascar's crown jewels along with Daytona 500, World 600, and Southern 500. (Last year, Indy had a lot more passing at the front than the 600, BTW.)
Well...get them off the grI wonder what they can do to increase drag there however. That's what makes the Indy 500 so terrific, the epic slingshots for the pass.
IMO I'd like to see the trucks run there as those are the vehicles which create the most drag
SnoozeI agree. Though I personally will not bother to watch the Xfinity Series at IMS until they go back to IRP. It was always cool to see the Cup Series at the big track and the other two series at the short track.
I think there has been some boring races as of late, but I like the uniqueness of the Brickyard.