Mark Martin won the 2007 Daytona 500

As an old Gordo fan, Jimmie is def a legit champion. He would've gotten his somehow, someway, regardless of format. The other active drivers simply don't compar.

Honestly, 2010 is pobably the only "fluke" championship. All the other years, Johnson still was close under the "traditional" points system.

Under the traditional format, Kevin Harvick would have run away with the championship. And even in the Chase, Jimmie got lucky because Denny Hamlin had a total meltdown after the Phoenix race, despite still having a 15 point lead, and completely choked at Homestead.

Harvick's just an amazingly consistent driver and always has been. Honestly, I didn't think he was ever gonna win a championship. The new format played out perfectly for him, since Phoenix was the final race before the Homestead Bowl.

The Harvick Hate is amusing on here sometimes.

I'm not a Kyle Busch fan but I can admit he's the best driver in NASCAR right now. And almost everyone who dislikes Kyle will admit he's a legend and first ballot Hall of Famer.

I'm never going to accept that championship because I'm never going to accept the entire process that led up to it. Just like I'm never going to accept the theory that Dale Earnhardt won the 1990 championship. It has nothing to do with Kyle Busch, it has to do with how it all unfolded.

First, there was the whole thing of letting Kyle into the Chase after missing 11 races, coupled with the talk that was going around that, if Kyle didn't make the top-30 in points, they'd let him in anyway. Then, there was Joey Logano wrecking Matt Kenseth at Kansas. Then, Kevin Harvick wrecked the entire field at Talladega. Then, Kenseth got suspended for wrecking Logano -- a couple weeks after Brian France said it was "quintessential NASCAR" when Joey dumped Kenseth. That's not even the kicker for me.

That race at Phoenix still makes my blood boil. Earnhardt getting the lead because of a scoring technicality. NASCAR taking 20 minutes to clean up a single car wreck and then, right when they got it finished, magic, it's raining! Then, five minutes after bringing them down pit road, they call the race -- at like 9:30pm local time, four months after STARTING a race at midnight. It has nothing to do with "Harvick would have won" because he probably would have if they got it restarted. It had to do with the fact that Joey Logano, who was third when the caution came out, already got ****** out of a Chase spot with the wreck at Martinsville and was denied an opportunity to get a jump on Jr and Harvick to race his way in.

That Phoenix race was the bunch of bullsheot I've seen since NASCAR penalized Robby Gordon because Marcos Ambrose intentionally wrecked him under caution at Montreal in 2007.
 
Comparing Joey spinning Kenseth out at Kansas to Kenseth taking Logano out at Martinsville is 100% apples to oranges.
 
Nascar needs to design a 2nd place trophy and name it the Mark Martin trophy.
 
Martin also did what he did best with a 2nd in points in 1990.

But he really tried hard by going with a Robert Yates car in the 1990 finale. I suppose it was his best shot at winning the thing in a legal car. Why else would anyone NoJack it when they supposedly had been the best that year. What an I am not a champion moment.

Meanwhile Dale just showed up in one of his regular Chevys and put on one that still brings on the tears. And then the tears got another shot of RCR juice from the 2007 tragedy.

®Kleenex just called and asked to sponsor this thread.
#JUSTICE FOR mark.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-11-13/sports/1990317191_1_jack-roush-robert-yates-martin
 
Martin also did what he did best with a 2nd in points in 1990.

But he really tried hard by going with a Robert Yates car in the 1990 finale. I suppose it was his best shot at winning the thing in a legal car. Why else would anyone NoJack it when they supposedly had been the best that year. What an I am not a champion moment.

Meanwhile Dale just showed up in one of his regular Chevys and put on one that still brings on the tears. And then the tears got another shot of RCR juice from the 2007 tragedy.

®Kleenex just called and asked to sponsor this thread.
#JUSTICE FOR mark.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-11-13/sports/1990317191_1_jack-roush-robert-yates-martin
Would that be the tread closer?
 
Martin also did what he did best with a 2nd in points in 1990.

But he really tried hard by going with a Robert Yates car in the 1990 finale. I suppose it was his best shot at winning the thing in a legal car. Why else would anyone NoJack it when they supposedly had been the best that year. What an I am not a champion moment.

Meanwhile Dale just showed up in one of his regular Chevys and put on one that still brings on the tears. And then the tears got another shot of RCR juice from the 2007 tragedy.

®Kleenex just called and asked to sponsor this thread.
#JUSTICE FOR mark.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-11-13/sports/1990317191_1_jack-roush-robert-yates-martin
Yeah Dale won his title with his 46 gift points from NASCAR, not to mention the points he salvaged when NASCAR allows his crew to put on tires in turn 1 at Charlotte with no penalty.
 
Yeah Dale won his title with his 46 gift points from NASCAR, not to mention the points he salvaged when NASCAR allows his crew to put on tires in turn 1 at Charlotte with no penalty.
that only counts for one of the championships he lost. what was the reason for the rest of them?
 
He was much better than you give him credit for......


And you can jump up and Kiss my ole .............


nevermind...... you ain't worth it.......
same to you too. I known what I know if you know what I mean. he wasn't good enough to win one and he didn't.
 
Don't kid yourself Bubba'.......... he was more than good enough.......

He was good enough, just couldn't overcome having to drive a Ford for most of his career. If Mark would have driven a Chevy his whole career, he would have got a Daytona 500, and a Cup title. At 50 years of age he had one of his best years ever in his first full time season in championship equipment, aka a Chevy. That's the real tragedy, a great talent was regulated and limited by a Ford.

Nascar Nation has it own trail of tears, a blue oval one, deserving of a little compassion. Profoundly demonstrated in this here thread with 20 plus year old scars that still weep.
 
He was good enough, just couldn't overcome having to drive a Ford for most of his career. If Mark would have driven a Chevy his whole career, he would have got a Daytona 500, and a Cup title. At 50 years of age he had one of his best years ever in his first full time season in championship equipment, aka a Chevy. That's the real tragedy, a great talent was regulated and limited by a Ford.

Nascar Nation has it own trail of tears, a blue oval one, deserving of a little compassion. Profoundly demonstrated in this here thread with 20 plus year old scars that still weep.
he did drive for the devil.
 
he wasn't good enough to win one

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yes, he wasn't good enough to win one. he always settle. that's who he was.

Yeah he only beat your boy head to head in IROC not to mention the rest of Nascars best 5 times total when the team and NASCAR BS was removed from the equation.
 
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Ignorance sometimes is comical....
 
He was good enough, just couldn't overcome having to drive a Ford for most of his career. If Mark would have driven a Chevy his whole career, he would have got a Daytona 500, and a Cup title. At 50 years of age he had one of his best years ever in his first full time season in championship equipment, aka a Chevy. That's the real tragedy, a great talent was regulated and limited by a Ford.

Nascar Nation has it own trail of tears, a blue oval one, deserving of a little compassion. Profoundly demonstrated in this here thread with 20 plus year old scars that still weep.

Oh the Fords were good enough. Just not enough to overcome Bill Jr getting his jock jacked by Childress or someone from Chevy. From the Aero Monte Carlo to the last return of the Monte Carlo, NASCAR couldn't change rules enough to make them legal.
 
From what I can tell in limited interaction with you that's a fine anthem for ya! Nice choice!

I enjoy reading your post.
I actually like Martin and think he was a great driver. The whole career Ford years and everything. The whiney thread premise was just to tempting for me to resist the smack talk.

Martin accomplished a lot and had a great career. He deserves better than a he was cheated legacy imo.

Glad he is getting into the HoF too.
 
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