Michigan qualifying

ted@economy said:
Keyboard warriors who have no idea how to slow cars down tick me off . None of them have any solutions , just complaints . Plates , like dragging a chute , slow ALL of the cars down , the fast ones still win and the slow ones still lose . Pack racing has more to do with aero and the closeness of the competitors than plates . I would love to see Nascar find a way to slow the cars down 20mph at Michigan , for competition and for safety . I don't claim to know how to go about it .
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Plates limit throttle response but if Nascar feels there's no need to slow the cars and that speeds are safe, who are fans to say they're wrong? It's their show.
 
Looks like NASCAR is gving them an additional practice today (with the new left side tire) following the Nationwide race...
Goodyear to change left-side recommendation at Michigan: Based on the higher than expected speeds NASCAR Sprint Cup Series teams ran in pre-race practice on the newly repaved Michigan International Speedway, The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company has decided to change its left-side tire recommendation for Sunday's race. In the final Sprint Cup practice on Friday afternoon, #16-Greg Biffle ran an average speed in excess of 204 mph for his fastest lap. For comparison's sake, when Goodyear tested at Michigan in preparation for this race on April 3-4, the fastest average lap speed topped out in the 198-mph range. The higher speeds caused significantly higher left-side tire temperatures, which caused Goodyear to take this step.
The tire code that teams will now run (D-4020) features a tougher tread compound, a different construction and different mold shape than the tire teams ran in practice. The replacement tire was run at Charlotte Motor Speedway after that track was repaved at the end of the 2005 season. This code was run at both races at Charlotte in both 2006 and 2007. When Goodyear decided to bring a new tire to Charlotte for the 2008 season, a quantity of this code was built as part of the back-up plan that Goodyear has in place for every race track on the circuit. Since this tire proved durable and provided an ample amount of grip for the repaved Charlotte surface, it made it a logical choice to be put in place for just this type of situation for the fresh asphalt at Michigan.
Goodyear will ship in enough tires for teams to have 10 sets of tires for the race, which is the original NASCAR set limit for this event. Teams will run their original allotment of right-side tires (D-4528) in Sunday's race. Teams will have additional tires available for a NASCAR-scheduled practice following the Nationwide Series race on Saturday.
"We decided this move was best to provide quality racing here on Sunday," said Greg Stucker, Goodyear's Director of Race Tires. "In collecting data and speaking with drivers and crew chiefs throughout the practice days, we had two choices to make. Our first option was to make the team's race sets available to them before practice on Friday and allow them the chance to 'scuff' them, in order to run them through a heat cycle to increase heat resistance. We did that, but after all the practice sessions ended on Friday, we concluded the safer option was to go to our contingency plan and bring in the 4020s.
"This code has been run before under similar track conditions and we have full confidence that it will give drivers and teams the enough grip to run a great race on Sunday, while doing so in the safest possible manner. Safety is always our No. 1 concern, and by bringing this tire here this weekend, we will accomplish that goal."(Goodyear PR)(6-15-2012)
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I think it's a safe bet that the track record will fall in Cup qualifying.
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I'd say that 212 mph is safe as an all-time record but Michigan will be boasting about being the fastest track in Nascar after this one.
 
#17D500winner said:
I'd say that 212 mph is safe as an all-time record but Michigan will be boasting about being the fastest track in Nascar after this one.
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MIS was once before the fastest track that NASCAR went to and yesterday put it back on top.
 
Smoke14 said:
MIS was once before the fastest track that NASCAR went to and yesterday put it back on top.
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Yeah, Texas was no.1 for a while, I believe. Vickers turned a hot lap there a few years back.
 
It's gonna be an interesting race, to say the least! Many top drivers are starting at the rear of the field and are going to be forcing the issue to get to the front in "only" 400 miles.

Big Props to Marcos Ambrose!!!
 
Hey, what happened to Carl? I was in the shower and missed it.
 
robbybee said:
I'll take that bet!!! What's the wager?
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I have no idea how it came about that Ambrose is this clean, stand up guy. I bet Ambrose has taken out more cars then both Busch brothers combined, but because he speaks Australian, it's an "accident" when he does it.
 
JimmieGordon2448 said:
I have no idea how it came about that Ambrose is this clean, stand up guy. I bet Ambrose has taken out more cars then both Busch brothers combined, but because he speaks Australian, it's an "accident" when he does it.
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I don't think that is that hard for us to see that YOU have 'no idea how it came about', just need to open your other eye so you dont have such a one eyed view.

Also, I'll take your bet!!! Whats the wager.
 
I just saw the qualifying results.

Congrats to Marcos for his first Sprint Cup Pole.

With the speeds which are being run, I hope that its a fast and safe race.

Cheers guys.
 
MoMike said:
So, was the Q with the new left side tires, or the old ones?
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ted@economy said:
I thought I heard old ones because they practiced on them and there was no fear of blistering during qualifying.
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Correct! Qualifying was done with the original left sides. The additional practice session Saturday was to let everyone come to grips, as it were, with the "new" left side tires. Those left sides have been sitting in a GoodYear warehouse for 5 years, BTW...

What impact will this extra test session have on engine life?
Any Guesses???
 
robbybee said:
Those left sides have been sitting in a GoodYear warehouse for 5 years, BTW...

What impact will this extra test session have on engine life?
Any Guesses???
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I think I would be more worried about those 5 year old tires.
 
So we go from excessive tire wear to no tire wear, speeds are low again and it's looking like typical Michigan.

Yay for NASCAR intervention.
 
mike honcho said:
I think I would be more worried about those 5 year old tires.
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I think that the unlikely event that there might be engine wear issues or 5yr old tire issues is pretty meaningless compared to the likelyhood of blistering tires. Nascar has to address the main issue and they have done that. Secondary issues may or may not come up.
 
well i'll tell you what, Michigan is not a place where I expected to see these kinds of speeds out of NASCAR Cup cars but dangit so be it. I'd like to see them go 200 at daytona & talladega in qualifying again but whatever, i don't care anymore...
 
Just got in from the races, So whats the report on the late practice session with the new left sides? Better worse they gonna run them or the original setup?
 
FlFlash said:
Just got in from the races, So whats the report on the late practice session with the new left sides? Better worse they gonna run them or the original setup?
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Where did you run tonight? Some drivers liked it, some didn't. Who'd thought! It slowed them down a bit, about 10 or so mph from pole speeds. Guess Goodyear wanted those tires out of the warehouse, they've been there quite a while.
 
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