NASCAR drops the hammer on Hamlin

still..no one likes to lose their leader in no matter what capacity
 
75 points that don't matter. It'll drop Hamlin to 22nd in points, but he's still way up on 30th. And Grubb will be back just in time for the Chase to start, so no biggie really.
 
NASCRAP has been layin in the weeds waiting to hammerdown on Hambone since he flatout told them he wouldn't pay last years fine...............Welcome to the new RTA era in NASCRAP............
 
MELROSEMAFIA said:
NASCRAP has been layin in the weeds waiting to hammerdown on Hambone since he flatout told them he wouldn't pay last years fine...............Welcome to the new RTA era in NASCRAP............
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Oh jesus h christ... They made Gibbs break the rules a year later just so they could penalize them? Lay off the meth.
 
@MartySmithESPN: I can't understand how y'all don't see the detriment of this penalty to the 11 team. Crew chiefs sort of matter. As do reputations.
 
Matthew2470 said:
@MartySmithESPN: I can't understand how y'all don't see the detriment of this penalty to the 11 team. Crew chiefs sort of matter. As do reputations.
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The reputation part I get, but even after the penalty Denny has a win and is 213 points up on 31st, so no way he's falling out of the top 30 in the next 6 races. The interim CC just needs to be a caretaker until Grubb comes back.
 
Matthew2470 said:
@MartySmithESPN: I can't understand how y'all don't see the detriment of this penalty to the 11 team. Crew chiefs sort of matter. As do reputations.
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Reputations? Please. I love Marty, but if reputations were really an issue in this context Jimmie and Chad would be the equivalent of Barry Bonds---and they most certainly are not. Why do we go through this ****? This is part of the game. Pushing the envelope. I submit my question yet again.....How would an unnamed crew chief know what the benefits of this plate stuff are? Because he has done it himself. Give me a break.
 
Revman said:
How would an unnamed crew chief know what the benefits of this plate stuff are? Because he has done it himself. Give me a break.
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They probably test this kind of stuff in the wind tunnel
 
ToyYoda said:
The reputation part I get, but even after the penalty Denny has a win and is 213 points up on 31st, so no way he's falling out of the top 30 in the next 6 races. The interim CC just needs to be a caretaker until Grubb comes back.
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Ironic. Grubb was Chad's caretaker. Won a 500.
 
What's so hard to understand about the 11 car being cheated up way beyond the grey area and common sense? It was dangerous to the driver and gave the 11 car a big aero advantage. They got caught and penalized. End of story.
 
NASCAR confiscates parts from #11 Toyota UPDATES: NASCAR discovered "possible issues" with the #11 Joe Gibbs Racing Toyota driven by Denny Hamlin in post-race inspection. At question were rear firewall block-off plates on Hamlin's car. According to NASCAR the parts were confiscated and taken back to the research and development center in Concord, N.C. for further evaluation. According to one crew chief, If the block-off plates are not sealed off sufficiently, air can flow through the firewall enabling the car to gain anywhere from 20 to 30 pounds of rear downforce. Hamlin qualified 27th. After Hamlin pitted on Lap 55 from the lead, he fell to 13th but quickly made his way back to the front of the back to finish third on Sunday. He led 18 laps.(Motorsport)(7-27-2014)
UPDATE: The #11 team that competes in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series has been penalized for a rules infraction discovered in post-race inspection July 27 at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This infraction is a P5 level penalty which is outlined in Section 12-4.5 A (9) of the 2014 NASCAR rule book:
Approved parts that fail or are improperly installed to fail in their intended use of great importance (e.g.; rear wheel well panels that fail and allow air evacuation in the trunk area; oil box cover that fails and allows air evacuation in the driver compartment; shifter boot cover that fails and allows air evacuation through the floor pan). This infraction violates Sections 12-1, 20-2.1, 20.3.4, 20.3.4.5.
As a result of these violations, crew chief Darian Grubb has been fined $75,000 plus an additional $50,000 post-race fine for a total of $125,000. Grubb has also been suspended from NASCAR for the next six series championship events, plus any non-championship races or special events that might occur during that time period. Grubb will also be on NASCAR probation for the next six months.
Car chief Wesley Sherrill has been suspended from NASCAR for the next six series championship events, plus any non-championship races or special events that might occur during that time period and will be on NASCAR probation for the next six months.
This infraction has also cost the #11 team the loss of 50 championship driver and owner (Denny Hamlin and J.D. Gibbs) points plus an additional 25 post-race points for a total loss of 75 championship driver and 75 championship owner points.(NASCAR), see the complete release on the 2014 NASCAR penalties page.(7-29-2014)
Gibbs statement:Joe Gibbs Racing (JGR) is aware of the penalty issued by NASCAR today regarding the #11 team's post-race inspection infraction following Sunday's Sprint Cup Series race in Indianapolis. JGR will plan to appeal the penalty, however, crew chief Darian Grubb and car chief Wesley Sherrill will begin to serve their suspensions starting this weekend in Pocono.(Gibbs PR)(
 
the interesting thing about this is its a rule that is actually pretty spelled out, I know that seems obvious but normally its a catch all phrase in the rule book "actions detrimental to stock car racing" aparantly its about the same thing as the oil tank lid accidentally falling off. carl edwards won a race in vegas several years ago with a "fallen off" oil tank lid. I always wondered if they could use in car footage to see when exactly the oil tank lid came off on that deal. drivers also used to pull the shifter boot during qualifying alot. same deal.
 
Johali said:
What's so hard to understand about the 11 car being cheated up way beyond the grey area and common sense? It was dangerous to the driver and gave the 11 car a big aero advantage. They got caught and penalized. End of story.
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Honestly man I agree with you in principle. I will wait until after the appeal for specifics, but yeah, it's part of the sport. Done. BTW--I am shocked by the appeal. Shocked.
 
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