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936K for Truck, from 1.314M last year.
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articl...cable-originals-network-finals-2-16-2018.html
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articl...cable-originals-network-finals-2-16-2018.html
936K for Truck, from 1.314M last year.
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articl...cable-originals-network-finals-2-16-2018.html
I mean WTF where the hell is it?
I think the single file racing we saw in the clash and duels probably played into it as well. Lots of people expected a boring race and may not have gone out of their way to turn it on.
+You have to pick thru the B.S. the ratings people are so stick n ball biased, but usually after they dig up all the muck, down at the bottom
Despite the lower numbers, Sunday’s race was the top non-Olympic sporting event of the weekend. It beat that night’s NBA All-Star Game by 23% in ratings (5.3 to 4.3) and 22% in viewership (9.3M to 7.65M),
Thanks for posting that FL. I'm not a TV expert like some on here, but a lot of eyeballs were on racing this past weekend. More than were on the Olympics in the same time slot. Not too bad for a niche sport.
Thanks for posting that FL. I'm not a TV expert like some on here, but a lot of eyeballs were on racing this past weekend. More than were on the Olympics in the same time slot. Not too bad for a niche sport.
If fewer people watched the Daytona 500 than a year ago, that obviously is not good news for the business of Nascar, but I don't understand why people translate that into calls for fewer races, shorter season, etc. Are we trying to free up time slots for more cornhole tournaments? More English Pub Darts?
I think I agree with @StandOnIt ... Racing doesn't need to beat football or the Olympics in order to survive... it really needs to be the dominant racing series that draws better than cornhole, darts, and bowling for dollars.
This is very misleading as it's only looking at the All-Star Game. The last three NBA Finals have all hit post-Jordan highs, and the league is up 15% nationally and 9% locally so far in the regular season so there is indeed a lot of momentum there. For any kind of programming to be doing as well as it has in two decades in the current climate is nothing short of remarkable.Some on here were touting how well B ball was doing. It has less than a third of the viewership it had in the 90's, down to a minuscule audience that has been flat for the last five years.
This is very misleading as it's only looking at the All-Star Game. The last three NBA Finals have all hit post-Jordan highs, and the league is up 15% nationally and 9% locally so far in the regular season so there is indeed a lot of momentum there. For any kind of programming to be doing as well as it has in two decades in the current climate is nothing short of remarkable.
Soccer, I will agree, has stagnated for the time being and the absence of the USMNT from this year's World Cup isn't going to do any favors.
More nuggets from Sports Media Watch:
"To put the numbers in perspective, three years ago the Atlanta 500 — not exactly on the level of Daytona — pulled the same 5.1 overnight."
I would love it if some other race somehow topped the Daytona 500, but yeah, that's not gonna happen.
"Despite the low numbers, Sunday’s race is on pace to finish as the top FOX program since last month’s NFC Championship Game."
This illustrates why TV networks continue to pay higher and higher rights fees for live sports. Even a badly rated Daytona 500 is still the biggest thing Fox has going for it outside of football. It is traditional entertainment TV that has taken the real ratings dive.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/02/daytona-500-ratings-overnights-low/#respond
This list stops at 2008. Every Finals since then has hit 16.9M+, minus 2009 (14.3M) and 2014 (15.5M) and the last three have averaged 19.9M, 20.2M, and 20.4M.
take a look at this FL if you please, regular seasonThis is very misleading as it's only looking at the All-Star Game. The last three NBA Finals have all hit post-Jordan highs, and the league is up 15% nationally and 9% locally so far in the regular season so there is indeed a lot of momentum there. For any kind of programming to be doing as well as it has in two decades in the current climate is nothing short of remarkable.
Soccer, I will agree, has stagnated for the time being and the absence of the USMNT from this year's World Cup isn't going to do any favors.
here is another long range chart of the NBA playoffs. If you notice, if the press used the same losing attendance drama thing for the NBA, and used the late 90's time frame like they always regurgitate for Nascar? down from this year record down game from that year? but they don'tThis list stops at 2008. Every Finals since then has hit 16.9M+, minus 2009 (14.3M) and 2014 (15.5M) and the last three have averaged 19.9M, 20.2M, and 20.4M.
here is another long range chart of the NBA playoffs. If you notice, if the press used the same losing attendance drama thing for the NBA, and used the late 90's time frame like they always regurgitate for Nascar? down from this year record down game from that year? but they don't
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings
The league is currently on track for its best regular season since 2012-2013. Post-Jordan, that is very good. Considering even more games are aired on TV (normally diluting ratings/viewership), that is very good.take a look at this FL if you please, regular season
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_on_television#Regular_season
They don't say that because the NBA's record lows were in the mid-2000s, and the league has generally been increasing since then. There used to be times where a race at Pocono would draw a better rating than an NBA Finals game. NASCAR still has yet to hit its trough.here is another long range chart of the NBA playoffs. If you notice, if the press used the same losing attendance drama thing for the NBA, and used the late 90's time frame like they always regurgitate for Nascar? down from this year record down game from that year? but they don't
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings
you are arguing with yourself. They can fluff it all they want and they do, but like Nascar, or football, or B ball all of them are down from their heydays and that was my point. I'm done. none of them are going anywhere.
If that was your point I think it is a valid one, and true in the broadest sense. None of the major sports are currently at an all-time high, and all are down from whenever that was. The problem is that you made a lot of questionable claims about NBA viewership to make it, and this just opens you up to being corrected.
Nobody bothers to compare MLB to its "America's pastime" heyday anymore, which was many decades ago. They track it vs. where it was five or ten years ago. Same with the NBA, for the most part. It has not been expected to compete with the Jordan-fueled '90s, though there has been some resurgence of this as it is starting to approach that level of prominence again.
It is no longer reasonable to compare NASCAR to its 2001-2006 peak. It will likely never reach those levels again, so what's the point of dwelling on it? I agree, expectations should be reset. However, it is reasonable to track year-to-year trends. From a business standpoint, they need to stem the declines as much as possible.
Of course NASCAR isn't going away. Can we put that to rest and have rational discussions about television ratings in the television ratings thread?
If fewer people watched the Daytona 500 than a year ago, that obviously is not good news for the business of Nascar, but I don't understand why people translate that into calls for fewer races, shorter season, etc. Are we trying to free up time slots for more cornhole tournaments? More English Pub Darts?