NASCAR - Television Ratings Thread

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StandOnIt said:
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So only 442,000 people in the U.S. watched some part of F1 Monaco, Indy 500, and World 600. I'm frankly surprised it's not more.. :idunno:

I wonder how many watched every lap of those three races PLUS every lap of the MotoGP race at Mugello? @donthaveanickname doesn't count as he's not "in the U.S." :salute:
 
LewTheShoe said:
So only 442,000 people in the U.S. watched some part of F1 Monaco, Indy 500, and World 600. I'm frankly surprised it's not more.. :idunno:

I wonder how many watched every lap of those three races PLUS every lap of the MotoGP race at Mugello? @donthaveanickname doesn't count as he's not "in the U.S." :salute:
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And unfortunately I missed the Coke 600 and watched Monaco on Monday. Would have been quite a run if I had watched all these races, from 11 am on Sunday to 6 am on Monday almost non-stop.
 
I'm afraid to bring up the continued ratings losses, because I'll be accused of wanting to see NASCAR die, or that it's on it's deathbed. Again, that's not the case at all.

But for reference, in 2016 the Sonoma race also on FS1 got 3.9 million viewers. That is a 43% loss of total viewers in 6 years.

Is anybody else besides me concerned about this?
 
Really, your not at all concerned about viewership lost over the last 6 years?

Also, I'm not a member of any "group", I've been here 1 month and it's not just a weekly down tic in ratings, it's losing 43% in 6 years.

But you apparently aren't concerned at all about it, so that's good to know.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
I'm afraid to bring up the continued ratings losses, because I'll be accused of wanting to see NASCAR die, or that it's on it's deathbed. Again, that's not the case at all.

But for reference, in 2016 the Sonoma race also on FS1 got 3.9 million viewers. That is a 43% loss of total viewers in 6 years.

Is anybody else besides me concerned about this?
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Whats concerning? That NASCAR is going away?
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Seems obvious, but the concern is that 43% of people who were interested in watching Cup racing 6 years ago, are not interested today.
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Doesn't seem obvious to me. A poster pulling numbers out of the sky with no reference to that material source for one sets of an alarm. We have been down this road many times newbe
 
StandOnIt said:
Doesn't seem obvious to me. A poster pulling numbers out of the sky with no reference to that material source for one sets of an alarm. We have been down this road many times newbe
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Really losing 43% viewers in a matter of 6 years isn't an obvious concern? Okay

Okay, here are the ratings from 2016. https://www.jayski.com/2016-nascar-tv-ratings/#:~:text=The Nov.,over 2014's presentation on ESPN.

Every rating in there is cited and sourced

"We" have not been down this road many times at all. Maybe you and the other ultra defensive posters have been down this road before with other members, but "we" have not.
 
You seem unaware that your “concerns” about TV ratings, the Playoffs and the new cars have been expressed here before. For years.

In the absence of any new material, you can expect people to be disdainful.
 
Why are my "concerns" needing to be in quotation marks. They are genuine concerns.

People can be whatever they want, if they want to be a jackass or disdainful then that is their right to do so I guess, but it speaks louder about them and their inability to have a cordial conversation on the topic then anything else.

My concerns are real, obviously 3 people on this Forum aren't concerned about them like I am, so that's fine.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Seems obvious, but the concern is that 43% of people who were interested in watching Cup racing 6 years ago, are not interested today.
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Or they consume it in different ways. The TV numbers mean nothing to me, the only people who its matters too are the Networks and they are pretty happy.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Why are my "concerns" needing to be in quotation marks. They are genuine concerns.

People can be whatever they want, if they want to be a jackass or disdainful then that is their right to do so I guess, but it speaks louder about them and their inability to have a cordial conversation on the topic then anything else.

My concerns are real, obviously 3 people on this Forum aren't concerned about them like I am, so that's fine.
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Concern about what? I'm being serious. Concerned they will no longer cover NASCAR?
 
Spotter22 said:
Concern about what? I'm being serious. Concerned they will no longer cover NASCAR?
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I've answered this 2 times now.

That 43% of people who were watching Cup racing 6 years ago, are not watching today. I'm not sure how that's not concerning to you, maybe you could explain that to me. That's a loss of eyeballs on the sport we both love. Help me understand why losing 43% of viewers is not concerning, at all.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Really losing 43% viewers in a matter of 6 years isn't an obvious concern? Okay

Okay, here are the ratings from 2016. https://www.jayski.com/2016-nascar-tv-ratings/#:~:text=The Nov.,over 2014's presentation on ESPN.

Every rating in there is cited and sourced

"We" have not been down this road many times at all. Maybe you and the other ultra defensive posters have been down this road before with other members, but "we" have not.
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Simple it's B.S. is why. Picking a figure out of the sky from 6 yesteryears ago without looking at the overall ratings recently that obviously show the numbers are super steady almost guaranteed is money to the networks who are paying the bills.

2018 sonoma, Oh the sky is falling

June252017FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma2.03.2
June242018FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma1.42.3


June232019FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma1.52.5
June62021FS1Toyota / Save Mart 350Sonoma1.52.5
2022 1.3 rating + 2.235M viewers, down from a 1.49/2.494M last year.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Why are my "concerns" needing to be in quotation marks. They are genuine concerns.

People can be whatever they want, if they want to be a jackass or disdainful then that is their right to do so I guess, but it speaks louder about them and their inability to have a cordial conversation on the topic then anything else.

My concerns are real, obviously 3 people on this Forum aren't concerned about them like I am, so that's fine.
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There are lots of people here who will be happy to have a cordial conversation with you about your ratings and other concerns.

They’ll be along directly.
 
StandOnIt said:
Simple it's B.S. is why. Picking a figure out of the sky from 6 yesteryears ago without looking at the overall ratings recently that obviously show the numbers are super steady almost guaranteed is money to the networks who are paying the bills.

2018 sonoma, Oh the sky is falling

June252017FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma2.03.2
June242018FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma1.42.3


June232019FS1Toyota/Save Mart 350Sonoma1.52.5
June62021FS1Toyota / Save Mart 350Sonoma1.52.5
2022 1.3 rating + 2.235M viewers, down from a 1.49/2.494M last year.
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Okay, well I'm glad you aren't concerned.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Road course fatigue is real, I think. They never drew well on TV to begin with but now that there’s a solid bunch of them any one in particular isn’t as much of a must-see. Especially Sonoma.
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4 more road races on the cup side, they average pretty steady in the high 1's low 2's. It will be interesting to see if the road courses rise or fall with more of them in the schedule.
 
StandOnIt said:
You might be better served to go over to the Indycar thread with your concerns. Penske's attempts to pull them out of the hole they were in is way more interesting
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Yea I know Indycar has it's own problems. This year Indy 500 ratings were horrendous for example.

I'm also concerned about the Cup series and their ratings/viewership as well and I can express them on here if I want.

I'd prefer to see ratings across the board be going up, like we see with F1. This past weekend saw a slight decline, but on the whole they are seeing very healthy increases each race from year over year. Also concerning to me is the fact that F1 for example has more total viewers in the 18-34 demo then NASCAR does, despite the fact that NASCAR has roughly 2.5x more total viewers overall. That's concerning to me as well. I'm sure that isn't concerning to you either though.

I guess my question is, is there a point where you do start to get concerned about the viewership loss? And if so, what is your threshold.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
if so, what is your threshold.
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There isn't one for me or you for that matter. You or I have no bearing on racing viewership or lack of. What is a problem are concerned people trying to convince everybody that auto racing is going down the tubes when it isn't while in a racing forum. There were a couple of three who aren't around anymore going down that path.
 
I figured Hoops McCann would be totally involved with the NBA playoff ratings.

Maybe he’s multi-tasking.
 
Many leading lights of the Concern Movement were struck down and forgotten. I'm trying to remember the names. There was Skull Bandage, and Poops McGillicuddy, and Atomic Wedgie. So many more.

Perhaps a new generation of Concerned are emerging at last.
 
StandOnIt said:
There isn't one for me or you for that matter. You or I have no bearing on racing viewership or lack of. What is a problem are concerned people trying to convince everybody that auto racing is going down the tubes when it isn't while in a racing forum. There were a couple of three who aren't around anymore going down that path.
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Where have I tried to convince everybody that auto racing is going down the tubes? I'm primarily concerned about NASCAR Cup, but Indycar isn't the strongest either unfortunately. F1 is seeing great viewership increases in the last 3 years.

I have expressed concerns about viewership that are rooted in facts. You don't have to be concerned and clearly aren't, so good for you.

What is a problem are super defensive people like you that are looking more for a fight or an argument then a good discussion. You view me pointing out facts as me throwing a punch when I'm not. I'm seeing bad trends and thought a healthy and rational discussion could come from it. Apparently not, which is a shame.

If I ran a business and saw that 43% less people from 6 years ago are watching/buying what I'm trying to sell, that'd be a cause for concern. If you ran that same business, you apparently wouldn't be concerned so that's your right.
 
StandOnIt said:
Thanks we're here all week.
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based off how many posts you've made since 2013, I'd say that you basically live here. So that's a given you'd be here all week.

Thanks for confirming you aren't capable of a good cordial or rational discussion. At least now I know that.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
based off how many posts you've made since 2013, I'd say that you basically live here. So that's a given you'd be here all week.

Thanks for confirming you aren't capable of a good cordial or rational discussion. At least now I know that.
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Playing the victim card and personal attacks means nothing
 
RHRFan#1 said:
Where have I tried to convince everybody that auto racing is going down the tubes? I'm primarily concerned about NASCAR Cup, but Indycar isn't the strongest either unfortunately. F1 is seeing great viewership increases in the last 3 years.

I have expressed concerns about viewership that are rooted in facts. You don't have to be concerned and clearly aren't, so good for you.

What is a problem are super defensive people like you that are looking more for a fight or an argument then a good discussion. You view me pointing out facts as me throwing a punch when I'm not. I'm seeing bad trends and thought a healthy and rational discussion could come from it. Apparently not, which is a shame.

If I ran a business and saw that 43% less people from 6 years ago are watching/buying what I'm trying to sell, that'd be a cause for concern. If you ran that same business, you apparently wouldn't be concerned so that's your right.
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You keep saying you are concerned but I still dont know about what? Are you gonna miss a check? Bankruptcy?
 
Spotter22 said:
You keep saying you are concerned but I still dont know about what? Are you gonna miss a check? Bankruptcy?
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I've answered the what, 3 separate times now. You can either address what I said in those and tell me why you aren't concerned, or you can continue to play dumb. It's your choice.
 
RHRFan#1 said:
I've answered the what, 3 separate times now.
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You've said three times that you're concerned the numbers are down. You haven't yet said WHY this is troubling you or should be bothering the rest of us. If the TV networks are happy, what's the problem?

Television viewing of live sports in the US is down across the board, even football. Attendance at races is down over the last 20 years. The sport isn't going anywhere.
 
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