NASCAR to electric by 2021?

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Ford 222, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Ya know, if it's just the sound of a loud engine that draws some people, they can always stick a sound chip and a couple of thumpers in the rear window. Might even use them to prop those rear windows up. :rolleyes:

    Brad has some interesting points, but I dunno about some of them. He's worried about the battery waste from all-electic cars but overlooks that batteries from hybrids have the same issue. He's rightly concerned about the safety hazards of batteries but then proposes putting them in right beside the driver. I wonder how he'd feel about putting the gas tank there?
     
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  2. sloggie

    sloggie Racing I will teach you

    Yes something like this makes more sense to do. Create a new series for electric cars and keep cup like it is. If it takes off, the electric series might become the feature and cup becomes a support series.

    No need for people to get their panties in a wad.

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  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    NASCAR has had a variety of series over the decades, with varying degrees of success. Convertibles, 4-cylinders, trucks, etc. This would just be one more.
     
  4. sloggie

    sloggie Racing I will teach you

    Exactly. Some have worked and some have not. Any article claiming the NASCAR is going electric is just clickbait.

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  5. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/nascar-finding-fourth-cup-manufacturer/4306982/
     
  6. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Lots of interest in the paddock about new manufacturers.
     
  7. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Call me when a manufacturer has submitted a car for approval. Call me when NASCAR asks manufacturers to submit electric ones, too.
     
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  8. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I think Phelps has a good dose of PT Barnum in him.
     
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  9. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Right now they have sport cars that would destroy a Nascar in competition and they are electric.
    I for one am thrilled with the idea. I learned from my grandfather who watched the first airplanes, the first cars and the first man on the moon. He never owned a car but he would let his sons drive him around. I think he would be fascinated with the quiet electric cars. They also have huge transports rolling down the highway that are all electric. :biggrin:
     
  10. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Talk to any Prius owner who needs a new battery pack and has a quote from the dealer. It is around 4 grand parts and labor. bzzzt
     
  11. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Maybe down in your parts, Tonto, but not in my area. Besides why would anyone put a new battery in an old car when there are other alternatives?
     
  12. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    I had kicked around the idea of getting a used Nissan Leaf to commute in, as the 4 or 5 year old ones are pretty cheap now. That was until I found out replacing the battery packs would cost me more than what I’d pay for the car.
     
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  13. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    there was a guy on YouTube called Chris Fix that put a set of rebuilt batteries in a Prius. He got a factory estimate print out first and then he did it himself. When he was done tearing the thing apart and putting it all back together, I was not sure if I would have just gone ahead and paid the dealer instead of the extra 2 grand he saved.
     
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  14. ToyYoda

    ToyYoda Team Owner

    And the Prius is just a hybrid, the full electrics are even worse. The Leaf I looked at was $4,900. The battery pack replacement on one of those is $5,500 plus labor.
     
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  15. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    They aren't practical, they cost too much, there are very few charging stations, and most I say most don't have a range long enough. With the price of gas around 2.30 gallon, gas powered cars are the way to go. Until gas hits 5.00 a gallon again, electric cars are a niche, that 5.00 mark won't happen anytime soon.
     
  16. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Another crush it, ship off the steel and the batteries to another country to recycle, damn we are green now.
     
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  17. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Anyone remember buying one of the first computers? cell phones? Yes they were awful expensive. Every new invention is expensive because of the investments it took to make it a reality. Electric cars will be the same, once they are common so will the costs. I think it is worth it if you can afford it.
     
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  18. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    I like the smell of burned racing fuel. Hopefully they’ll be able to duplicate that.
    The sweetest smell in the world was Klotz and AV gas coming out the pipe of my two stroke.
     
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  19. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Definitely my favorite aroma in existence. There should be a deodorant.
     
  20. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    And an aftershave, cologne, incense, candles...
     
  21. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    What do you mean, they should? They did!
     
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  22. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Hick

    The day nascar goes electric is the last day I watch. All they are are 1:1 scale slot cars. The noise of the cars pushing those engines to the limit is music to my ears. It’s half the fun of seeing them live. I’ll take Vrooooom over Woooosh any day. Pit stops in involve changing cars ? No thank you.
     
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  23. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    No changing cars, 2 men over the wall to change tires and a 30 second battery charge is
    all it will need.
     
  24. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Hick

    I figured changing would be it, they do that in Formula E.
     
  25. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Nothing screams excitement like watching the ballet of a 30 second battery challenge.
     
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  26. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    :D
     
  27. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Formula E won't be doing that this year. The battery technology has improved to where they can run the entire race on one battery. Yes, it's only a 45-minute race, but the battery technology, like any other new tech, continues to improve.
     
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  28. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    I am used to internal combustion engines but I would not thumb my nose at an electric Nascar if I enjoyed the racing.

    Shorter races with electric cars may usher in a new generation of fans......or not.
     
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  29. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    It is kind of like an old pony express relay, the rider changes horses. Can't wait until they run an endurance race an hour long.
     
  30. rd45usa

    rd45usa Team Owner

    :XXROFL:
     
  31. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Driver A is getting great lithium usage per foot. It could happen as we have greenies, very earnest safetyniks, global warmers and many others that would like to curtail use of the internal combustion engine.
     
  32. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    right now it is government global blackmail for manufacturers. They are forcing them to make them. Musk is the only one crazy enough (using Uncle Sugars money) to try to produce a pure electric for the street, his people's cheap electro idea he sold is no longer affordable, price ballooned out of sight for the average person. And you get to plug it in to the coal fired grid at night. ah Whoopie
     
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  33. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    You must be writing about the USA. Europe is going electric. The UK has mandated that newly manufactured cars be electric and the prices of those vehicles aren't beyond what a everyday consumer can handle.
     
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  34. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    What is the source for this info? I'd like to read more about this. Please post the link.
     
  35. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Google 'European countries mandate electric cars', please. I'd post the results myself but I'm testing some network changes and I can't get to Google right now. (Hell, I don't know how I'm getting HERE!) Hopefully when I get home...

    Many European countries have set deadlines for all-electric in the next 20 to 30 years, although how much progress they'll make is a wait-and-see question. I've seen articles in various mainstream media outlets like CNN, New York Times, etc.
     
  36. blue92

    blue92 Team Owner

    Who the fu.. wants to watch electric cars go around in circles? I think NA$CAR will be long dead before then with self driving cars coming along and all.
     
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  37. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Many people ask the same question about all forms of racing.

    I don't get why so many people seem to think NASCAR would implement electric racing as a replacement for current cars. Like Formula, any electrics NASCAR brings in will likely be a separate series. The sanctioning body has demonstrated that it's capable of (mis)managing more than one series at a time. :rolleyes:
     
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  38. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

  39. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I like the like idea of the Wood Bros style pit stop and tire change by 2 men competing against each other with no help from tire carriers.
    Think of the cost savings. :sarcasm:
     
  40. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    A guy I met drove his Tesla from Vancouver, BC to Palm Springs, California, a distance of 1390 miles. The trip took 6 days. That’s down to the 300 mile max permitted by the battery pack and the required 9 hour recharge.

    A Formula E car’s weight is less than half that of a Cup car.

    2021? Not likely.
     

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