Nationwide @ Road America Race Thread

Eldora was actually the 10th most-watched Truck race ever on SPEED, but otherwise, yeah, you're right. It's really disheartening to see road course races get such poor ratings while the worst form of racing in the sport gets the best.

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Why more people watch the plate races I will never understand. The worst type of tracks.
 
Why more people watch the plate races I will never understand. The worst type of tracks.

For some it's beatin' n bangin' and for other it's speed. I enjoy short trackracing (Richmond is probably my favorite track) but 70mph in a car with 900hp just don't quite cut it.

Edit: I'd like to add that I think it's great that Nascar has a variety of tracks, to please a wider audience.
 
Why more people watch the plate races I will never understand. The worst type of tracks.

Why? To see the carnage of the Big One. The Big One is hyped to the point if it doesn't happen they'll be riots in the streets.:(
 
something else that is screwy are ratings/audience #'s. The ratings aren't about how many watched, but how many compared to other programs (sports programs) that were on. Although the watching numbers don't go down much when football starts, the rating numbers/market share does.
 
Why? To see the carnage of the Big One. The Big One is hyped to the point if it doesn't happen they'll be riots in the streets.:(
Nascar themselves promote wrecks so I guess if people enjoy them, Nascar has done their job.
 
as with about anything, statistics can be twisted around to show just about anything. I think Carolinabuff hit it on the head. Daytona being the first race after a long winter, and hardly any sports programming to compete, it gets a huge boost. When you look at heads watching, Daytona had 9.3. Phoenix? not publicized for two months like Daytona, and the next race, had 8.8 million viewers, but they were all crying about the numbers being down BUT mentioned at the end of the article that it was the top rated sporting event of the weekend. So ratings and actual people watching are two different things.
 
....Now, are any of you able to admit that Gordon is anything but Mr. Perfect?

I'm sure we can all admit to something we never made a claim about. lol

Post something else we never said so you can make fun of us for that too. :)
 
Brendan Gaughan on racing in the rain, why it's fun, and why you can't race in the rain on an oval:

http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.co...-races-in-rain-on-road-courses-but-not-ovals/

ELKHART LAKE, Wisconsin – Having grown up in Las Vegas and with a father who is a titan in the hotel and gambling industry there, Brendan Gaughan knows a thing or two about sucker bets and hustling a mark.

That’s why when the rain came midway through Saturday’s Gardner Denver 200 NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Road America, Gaughan was smacking his chops and counting his chips.

“I love racing in the rain, it’s fun,” said Gaughan. “And when you’re good at it, it makes it even more fun.

“I haven’t smelled blood in a long time, that’s something I’ve been lacking lately, that killer attitude. When it started to rain, even without the wiper blade (was broken), I started to smell blood and said, ‘I’m coming.’

“It’s fun to watch guys who haven’t done it in the rain. They don’t understand the rain line, and fortunately for me, I did.”

When NASCAR officials called all competitors into the pits on Lap 27 and mandated that all cars switch from dry slicks to rain tires, it was a new experience for pretty much everyone in the field.

But not Gaughan (or for that matter, runner-up Alex Tagliani). He’s taken part in a number of races in the rain in various series in his career, including one of the two prior NNS races ran in the rain in Montreal in 2010 (the other was also in Montreal in 2008).

Like a poker dealer with a deck of marked cards, Gaughan the rain-racing veteran knew he had a marked edge over almost every other driver in the field – and then he went out and took advantage of it.

Granted, if Tagliani had not run out of fuel on Lap 49 and if the originally scheduled 50-lap race hadn’t been extended three more laps, Gaughan might not have won.

But those are too many ifs.

Still, the point is Gaughan did win, he had fun and wound up winning one of the most exciting and action-filled – albeit wet – NNS races the series has seen in a long time.

Not only did Gaughan teach a lesson to his fellow competitors on how to get around a slippery when wet racetrack (sorry Bon Jovi, I know that’s the title of your biggest-selling album/CD, but I couldn’t resist), Gaughan also made a very poignant comment in the track media center after the race.

Race fans have complained for years that NASCAR should run Sprint Cup races in the rain, rather than pushing them back or postponing them outright – like we saw earlier this year at Daytona and Texas.

The logic goes that if the technology exists to have rain tires run on road courses and in the Nationwide Series, why not extend that to the Sprint Cup Series.

After all, if Formula One, rally cars and other series can race in rain, why can’t NASCAR?

I admit, I’ve also often wondered about that, too.

So when I asked Gaughan — who is a pretty smart guy, having graduated from Georgetown University — after Saturday’s race why can’t we see Sprint Cup races run in the rain, he set me straight … and hopefully will teach many fans a valuable lesson after they read his words:

“You can’t on an oval, period, that’d be asinine and dumb,” Gaughan said. “You just can’t do it. There’s no rain line on an oval course.

“Here (at the Road America road course), you can get away from rubber. Here, you don’t have the same G-forces and physics acting upon your race car. You cannot race in the rain on an oval, it just will not happen.

“But on a road course, as we showed today, you can put on a hell of a race in the rain. … You got some spins, you had some excitement, then you saw old rain tire, new rain tire, dry tire at the end.

“I don’t know how much more drama (people could want) – what it looked like from the TV camera – but inside the driver’s seat, it looked pretty cool to me.”

Saturday’s race in the rain indeed was pretty cool. And now hopefully a lot of folks will finally understand why – unless it’s Sonoma or Watkins Glen – you can forget about seeing rain tires at every other Sprint Cup track on the circuit.

What worked for Gaughan in the rain on a road course at Road America just won’t translate on a conventional Cup track.

Gaughan is willing to bet you on that.
 
They seem to race on ovals in the rain just fine in Indycar, so I disagree that Nascar couldn't if they wanted too.
 
Yeah I did some more checking..they don't race on ovals when it is raining, BUT they will race shortly after a rain on an oval track.
 

I think that was the incident that cost Brian Barnhart his job (and rightfully so). He was an awful race director and only had that job for so long in the IRL/IndyCar since he was Tony George's pal. I know Beaux Barfield isn't much more popular but I think he's decidedly better than Barnhart.
 
they were also on slicks. 20 20 hindsight..should have not restarted and or call them in and put rain tires on them. 1st one to spin? lil Dani.:D
 
they were also on slicks. 20 20 hindsight..should have not restarted and or call them in and put rain tires on them. 1st one to spin? lil Dani.:D
I don't think they bring rain tires to ovals. They don't race on ovals in the rain which is why that Loudon race was so bizarre. If the drivers could have communicated with each other there probably would have been a driver boycott.
 
yeah I hear that. In the N'wide race last weekend they did it right and wouldn't start the race until it was dry enough to go. I bet that is pretty stressful, dam if you do and dam if you don't. I didn't like the call to come in and change to rain tires and make it a regular pit stop. Would have liked to see a red flag to give the teams time to tune the car for the wet track and make sure the wiper worked.
 
Ned Jarrett was really complaining about running in the rain on TNT. I think the racing showed that they could do a good job and I liked the fact that it gave some of them an advantage. Made the rest of them have to learn how or run in the back. Seems like there were less cautions than I have ever seen when the track was dry.
 
Would have liked to see a red flag to give the teams time to tune the car for the wet track and make sure the wiper worked.
Well, in F1 when it starts raining they stay green and it's the team's responsibility to bring the cars in and put on rain tires. I would have done that if I was race director, I think. Although NASCAR teams have no experience in the rain, so maybe giving them a caution to change tires was a good decision. Just seems like a caution lap at Road America takes 15 minutes when you're at the race. :D

Ned Jarrett was really complaining about running in the rain on TNT. I think the racing showed that they could do a good job and I liked the fact that it gave some of them an advantage. Made the rest of them have to learn how or run in the back. Seems like there were less cautions than I have ever seen when the track was dry.

Yeah, I was impressed at how well dem stock car boys handled the rain. A few like Ty Dillion seemed to take a dump in the rain, and Tag ran away with the lead, but from Turn 5 it seemed like most adapted well.
 
Yeah I knew you were there, didn't know if you watched the replay on TV. Jarrett was really whining about racing in the rain. There were less cars running off the track and ending up in the boonies that I have ever seen at that track, a couple of backmarkers, and Baine stunk in the rain, but the rest seemed to do ok. I thought Tag was the show, The TV coverage didn't really pick up on his run to the front until he was up to about 4th, but I was watching on the leaderboard. He had to be screaming around that thing.
 
Jarrett was really whining about racing in the rain.

What a bozo. Between Nationwide racing in the rain and Trucks at Eldora and maybe Knoxville, NASCAR seems to be using the lower series as a test lab. Maybe some of this stuff will filter up to Cup eventually.
 
Yeah it wasn't a one sentence statement, he went on and on about it. I bet the race didn't change his opinion either, and he and plenty of others in high places are probably keeping it from happening. Hopefully this race will change their minds..if the viewership $$$$ is up, that will probably do it though.:)
 
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