no more cautions

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by acmerocket, May 14, 2019.

  1. acmerocket

    acmerocket Team Owner

    if they just gave points at the end of the stages and not stop the race,there would be more green flag stops.they used to do this for the half war bonus.and no da---- wave arounds.
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  2. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    Every week in the Nascar Fan council, I write in my comments section:

    Get rid of the cautions at the end of stages!!!! :booya:
    Get rid of the wave arounds after cautions!!!! :booya:

    I am OK with the luck dog.
  3. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    What is a " green flag pit stop "
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  4. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    That's when a driver pulls into the pits while racing under green.
    OR a truck driver reaches for his empty drink bottle in order to have a pit stop while not stopping.:D
  5. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Ok, I vaguely recall seeing one of those happen several years ago ....... the racing version
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  6. superchuck500

    superchuck500 Team Owner

    I think there were two sets of green-flag stops at Kansas last Saturday. One in stage two and one in the final stage.
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  7. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Slow is Fast

    Tic-Tac Sir?
  8. ReturnTrip

    ReturnTrip Team Owner

    They already went back to single-car qualifying. I wouldn't expect another reversal for at least 15 years.
  9. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    I was being sarcastic, green flag stops aren't as common these days
  10. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Average green flag lap runs - Dover Speedway last 5 races before stages- 49.9
    Average green flag lap runs- Dover Speedway last 5 races with stages- 50.3

    Randomly chose Dover but I dont think it would be much different anywhere else.
  11. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Bristol- Before stages 38.1 avg green flag lap runs
    Bristol- Stages 39.5 avg green flag lap runs
  12. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    The caution period and TV timeout is the main motivating factor for the stage breaks. The rest is window dressing to make it more appealing than simple scheduled yellows. This request is a bit like pleading with a burger lover to continue eating burgers with all the toppings but leave the meat off.
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  13. MRM

    MRM Team Owner

    The stage cautions are for TV to show more commercials without doing it under green.
  14. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I'm glad TV can make some money so we can watch it every week.
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  15. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    Anyone got the stats of the number of commercials before the stages began and after stages began?

    I DVR all the races and blow through commercials, and there is still a sh*t pot full of commercials. Side by side is still commercials. There are commercials all the time while the race is going on under green, at the top of the screen on the side at the bottom all from time to time during the race, 1/2 screen Duracell commercials etc etc.

    Getting rid of the cautions at the end of stages would add a whole dynamic to the strategy of pitting. JMHO.
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  16. joe h

    joe h Team Owner

    Stages were never about the points and only about the break. The points and stage wins were just a way to keep the critics quiet.
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  17. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Then you better tell that to the teams. Of course its about the points, thats the point.
  18. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    Points don’t mean shitt because the same guys are always going to be racing for the “Championship” at the final race of the season and if everyone else blows up and the guy with the least amount of season points wins then he is declared the Champion of the season.
    THAT, is why the sport is losing fans.
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  19. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    The point is to get to the championship, as always .
  20. BobbyFord

    BobbyFord Resident Gearhead Contributor

    MmmmmHmmmm. And then the final race is a crapshoot.
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  21. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I havent seen a "crapshoot". Ive seen awesome racing.
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  22. bigspud

    bigspud Team Owner

    and u is carl edwards leading near end,
    fake caution comes out...
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  23. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Cautions with 25 or less laps left in the race more often than not change the name of the winner.
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  24. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Slow is Fast

    Actually went back and watched this on Youtube to confirm my memory. Edwards got jobbed twice by cautions in the last 70 laps or less while leading for the Championship. The first time when Blaney hit the wall in the 21, okay caution debris in the high line at Homestead, after Edwards had just passed Logano. They come down pit road Edwards loses 6 spots on pit road, drives all the way back through, passes Logano and Busch by 25 to go, sets sail on both of them. 15 to go, NASCAR throws a caution for Dylan Lupton in the 32, for a down left rear tire where he gets loose and saves it, slight smoke from the tire rub, and he moves down to the apron... NASCAR!?!? They flash a 3 second clip of the 32 and audio of someone saying "blown up" on his radio...the announcers say "left rear"... you can see the 32 still making laps after the caution.

    No wonder Edwards retired, that close to a Championship for the 2nd time after heartbreak the 1st time after years and years and that happens, he'd never admit it, and not the sole reason but definitely a factor imo, even if he was planning on hanging it up if he won or lost, that just sealed it for him imo. Sorry to say, but the 48 really had no business winning that thing, he used up all of his golden horseshoes on that one.
  25. Marcingak

    Marcingak Team Owner

    Haha yeah that's true. The 48 has been junk ever since.

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