Nominees announced for 2013 NASCAR Hall of Fame Class:

Matthew2470 said:
Oh man, it's a great book. Well worth the time and effort to read. I can't say enough good things about it. It made me really appreciate what they pioneers of the sport did for us.
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Who gives a crap about a bunch of old and washed up hill billy rednecks. Wait for it........
 
When my son is old enough I am going to make him to a book report on it and he will like it.
 
FenderBumper said:
I've always felt that HoF sports figures etc, and their fans, should get to enjoy their OBVIOUS HoF status while still playing. The way it is, they only get honored when they are tucked away and out of sight.
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That is only the case because of the late start of creating the HOF. While five selections a year seems to be a slow pace, it'll soon catch up with more recent people that are deserving to be in there. I think that it would be a mistake to start putting in today's stars over the people that helped shape and build this sport. Everyone that deserves to be there will be eventually. I know that I'm in the minority, at least on this board, and that's OK but I like the way they currently do it.

We'll soon have 20 members in there. Of those 15 that are in there many are still alive and kicking.
 
Herb Thomas
Red Byron
Buck Baker
Fireball Roberts
Curtis Turner
 
Matthew2470 said:
Why?
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In my view a hall of fame is to celebrate the career of someone, to me its not right to do it with someone still involved on a constant basis. You need to be retired for at least a year before you should be eligable.
 
kkfan91 said:
In my view a hall of fame is to celebrate the career of someone, to me its not right to do it with someone still involved on a constant basis. You need to be retired for at least a year before you should be eligable.
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I still don't see why it matters. Just because other sports wait doesn't mean NASCAR should wait.
 
Matthew2470 said:
I still don't see why it matters. Just because other sports wait doesn't mean NASCAR should wait.
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Other sports also didn't wait 60 years to open a hall of fame, so their older players got in long before the modern day. We could have more modern people if NASCAR would pull their heads out of their rear and put in more then 5 a year. In my view start with the beginning and work your way up to modern day.
 
kkfan91 said:
Other sports also didn't wait 60 years to open a hall of fame, so their older players got in long before the modern day. We could have more modern people if NASCAR would pull their heads out of their rear and put in more then 5 a year. In my view start with the beginning and work your way up to modern day.
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Doing it this way isn't working. The HOF will go bankrupt before any of the current drivers have a shot.
 
the reason they need corrent drivers is couse 85% of nascar fans dont know 1/2 of these 10,just have 1 courrent per class
 
getadietdew said:
the reason they need corrent drivers is couse 85% of nascar fans dont know 1/2 of these 10,just have 1 courrent per class
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I agree. I think inducting current drivers would make it unique. No other sports have current Hall of Fame players on their rosters.
 
I was a HUGE Rusty fan. Don't put him in this year. Let in Leonard, BP, Fireball before Rusty.
 
The HoF should not be 100% about turning a profit. Otherwise it will become cheesie, classless, and pointless.


Simply put the best in, and stick with that protocol. It should build in value to stock car racing as a whole, like infrastructure does for a community, developing a calculus to capture it's worth is no simple thing.


BTW Baseball was huge, with tons of good history from the late 1800s to the early 1900s, but they did not open up until about 1939?


After Ruth, Cobb, Gehrig had retired. They were never going to get another personality like Ruth, but they wisely kept the entry requirements rigid, insuring that the recognition would remain meaningful.


NASCAR just needs to stay the course for the best long term results.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I don't get the argument about putting in current drivers. I guess this means that we have throw in all of the older drivers too? :confused: Then what do we do, sit around and wait for the next up and coming driver to place into the HOF. I kinda like the way it works now. If someone is deserving they'll be in there. Sometimes I forget that I am living in a world of desired instant gratification. ;)
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I agree 100%.
Also the HOF isn't all about numbers it's about what they did for the sport of NASCAR take Benny Parson's for example, he doesent have great career numbers 2 ARCA Championships a Cup Championship and 21 Cup Wins but what he did for the sport far outweighs his driving career. BP was probably the best Announcer/Analyst NASCAR has ever had who knows how many people he entertained, educated and made fans out of? He belongs in the HOF BEFORE any current driver I can think of, maybe not this round but soon!
 
FlFlash said:
BP was probably the best Announcer/Analyst NASCAR has ever had who knows how many people he entertained, educated and made fans out of? He belongs in the HOF BEFORE any current driver I can think of, maybe not this round but soon!
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If only he could pronounce Jamie McMurray's name right. ;)
 
FlFlash said:
I agree 100%.
Also the HOF isn't all about numbers it's about what they did for the sport of NASCAR take Benny Parson's for example, he doesent have great career numbers 2 ARCA Championships a Cup Championship and 21 Cup Wins but what he did for the sport far outweighs his driving career. BP was probably the best Announcer/Analyst NASCAR has ever had who knows how many people he entertained, educated and made fans out of? He belongs in the HOF BEFORE any current driver I can think of, maybe not this round but soon!
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FlFlash
I want Benny Parsons in soon, like within the next three classes. There are a few pioneers I want in first, but Benny did a lot for NASCAR and deserves the honour.

My reason for quoting you is that I think Nascar should take Benny’s ARCA record into consideration as well, but I fear building the Nascar brand alone is to critical of factor. It will not stop him, but it will stop some other ones from ever being recognoized by the NHoF.

A lot of great oval track racing occurred in non NASCAR sanctioned racing. They also indirectly benefited NASCAR, they were short track ACE’s that were pursing the racing dream. A short track expert working his way up in the Midwest from the 70’s until about 10 years ago was going to though the ASA or ARTGO, and I would consider their accomplishments too.
Examples:
Bob Senneker 85 ASA wins

Mike Eddy 57 ASA wins

Butch Miller 46 ASA wins

Dick Trickle 32 ASA wins.

I doubt a guy like Trickle will ever get in, because the bulk of his accomplishments were not in Nascar, but who knows how many he inspired to pursue Nascar.

BTW I would factor in Alan Kulwicki’s years in ASA, to make him eligible as well.
 
Matthew2470 said:
Doing it this way isn't working. The HOF will go bankrupt before any of the current drivers have a shot.
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The reason the HOF isn't doing good is not because of who is the hall, its because the HOF seems to think its ok to charge an arm and a leg to get into it. It cost more than the baseball and football HOFs which have much more history to them. As Ive stated before, I live 10 miles from it and am a huge Earnhardt fan, but I'm not paying what they charge to walk through the doors, even with Dale Earnhardt being a HOF member, the price is a joke.

The HOF turns into a joke when you start adding active drivers, there are a lot of older drivers that are deserving of being in the HOF. These active drivers will get their day in the HOF, but base the HOF on their entire career, just like you do the retired drivers.
 
Go Panthers said:
The reason the HOF isn't doing good is not because of who is the hall, its because the HOF seems to think its ok to charge an arm and a leg to get into it. It cost more than the baseball and football HOFs which have much more history to them. As Ive stated before, I live 10 miles from it and am a huge Earnhardt fan, but I'm not paying what they charge to walk through the doors, even with Dale Earnhardt being a HOF member, the price is a joke.

The HOF turns into a joke when you start adding active drivers, there are a lot of older drivers that are deserving of being in the HOF. These active drivers will get their day in the HOF, but base the HOF on their entire career, just like you do the retired drivers.
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I hardly think adding Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson would make the HOF a joke. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised you haven't gone during the days when they offered free and half off admission.
 
Matthew2470 said:
I hardly think adding Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson would make the HOF a joke. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised you haven't gone during the days when they offered free and half off admission.
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So let me guess.Bayne makes it into the HoF because he won Daytona?
 
Matthew2470 said:
I hardly think adding Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart and Jimmie Johnson would make the HOF a joke. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised you haven't gone during the days when they offered free and half off admission.
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Adding a current driver takes away what the HOF is there for, on the very few days they offer free or half off admission, I've usually got better things to do.

There's a reason why other sports have a waiting period, its a formula that works for all other sports and its a formula that will work for NASCAR also.
 
Go Panthers said:
Adding a current driver takes away what the HOF is there for, on the very few days they offer free or half off admission, I've usually got better things to do.

There's a reason why other sports have a waiting period, its a formula that works for all other sports and its a formula that will work for NASCAR also.
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Apparently it's not working for NASCAR. Not even there locals will go to the hall.

And it was just a thought I had. I don't care if people disagree and I know it would never happen.:)
 
Matthew2470 said:
Apparently it's not working for NASCAR. Not even there locals will go to the hall.

And it was just a thought I had. I don't care if people disagree and I know it would never happen.:)
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I just dont think the current members of the Hall of Fame are the problem.
 
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