I've never been nor will I ever be a fan of The Chase.
Oh, what it could have been.
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dpkimmel2001
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No matter which way you look at it a great season by Keselowski all around.
After Homestead.....
After Homestead.....
I find it interesting that Jr sat out two races and still ended up in the top ten.
Take a look at 32-35 place. It doesn't look all that difficult to stay in the top 35.
Zerkfitting
Team Owner
I was always curious if anyone outside the chase could get a better finish without the Chase and it looks like Kyle Busch would have gotten a trip to the awards.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
If that lugnut wasn't dropped, JJ probably would have won the race and Brad would have finished 16th. That would have given Brad a 1 point win. That would have been a nailbiter for sure.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
Has that happened yet? I think it might have one time where the champion was the same with both point systems but I'm not sure.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
so not something that's happened to often, but a few times that's cool I guess. Just glad Brad won it with both so we don't got to hear much of the complaining that comes from the chase each year, now we just got to hear people complain about it cause there driver can't be on the stage
but hey not from me, the chase is what it is, Jr would be on the stage if not for the chase, but hey also if not for the chase who knows if he had sit out them two races, but we'll never know and will have to live with that Nascar has given us.
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing
Team Owner
so not something that's happened to often, but a few times that's cool I guess. Just glad Brad won it with both so we don't got to hear much of the complaining that comes from the chase each year, now we just got to hear people complain about it cause there driver can't be on the stage
Tony won last year and I still say the chase is a joke. The nationwide and especially the truck series both had great championship battles this weekend. The chase isn't needed but it doesn't matter how much we complain about it cause we are stuck with it. Scary to think but we are getting close to 10 seasons of having the chase.
Blaze
The Midnight Rider
It might not be needed, but honestly why complain about it anymore? They clearly aren't going to listen if they hadn't by now it's just best to accept it, start to like it and then Nascar will change it
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
the reason why they keep it around, is because of the race to the chase. While the points races in both the Trucks and NNS are always close with the new systems, they truly only come into play during the last weeks of the season. So Nascar can only play up drama in those series probably the last 5 weeks. In Cup they can play up the 10 races before the chase(race for the chase) on who is going to get in. They they have a huge ratings party at Richmond to actually find out who makes the chase. Then they play up the drama of the chase for 10 weeks. Take out the race for the chase and Nascar loses a ratings grab.
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robbybee
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The Chase brings a great deal of attention to the end of the NA$$CAR Season. Every week, there is talk of "The Chase". And additional attention means additional sponsorship dollars!
While it may seem foolish to some, it is a brilliant piece of marketing. NA$$CAR is always pitted against the NFL and the NBA at the end of their season so any additional exposure that they can get from the Media is a GOOD THING for the sport. In that regard, it has WORKED!
The majority of NA$$CAR fans are most-likely "casual fans" anyway, so keeping them interested throughout 36 weeks is a real challenge.
Maybe the season should be shortened to only 28 or 30 weeks?
*why do I feel like I am gonna be dodging beer cans and shoes?*
The NHRA Series liked The Chase so much that they adopted it for themselves...
While it may seem foolish to some, it is a brilliant piece of marketing. NA$$CAR is always pitted against the NFL and the NBA at the end of their season so any additional exposure that they can get from the Media is a GOOD THING for the sport. In that regard, it has WORKED!
The majority of NA$$CAR fans are most-likely "casual fans" anyway, so keeping them interested throughout 36 weeks is a real challenge.
Maybe the season should be shortened to only 28 or 30 weeks?
*why do I feel like I am gonna be dodging beer cans and shoes?*
The NHRA Series liked The Chase so much that they adopted it for themselves...
KevinWI
Oldest Operating Motor Speedway In The World
They both have 868 points, so Almirola and McMurray are tied for 20th. Just whatever weird database system RR is using showed Almirola in 20th on one list and McMurray in 20th on another.
KevinWI
Oldest Operating Motor Speedway In The World
So did professional golf. They invented the "FedEx Cup" playoff type deal after NASCAR did too.
I'm just waiting for my beloved IndyCar to pull something like adding a 4-race playoff to the end of the year in an attempt to make the public care about something other than the Indianapolis 500. IndyCar fans are (sometimes wrongly) incredibly adverse to anything that's "NASCAR" but since American open-wheel racing has a habit of self-immolation, they'll probably try it sooner rather than later.
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robbybee
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I have always been a race fan. I've watched IndyCar, F1, Can-Am, Trans-Am and NA$$CAR since they became TV staples. Even prior to that I was attending races at the famed Riverside Raceway and Ascot Raceway (both sadly long gone).
I paid more attention to CART than to NA$$CAR though. That is until Tony Effen George did his stupid stuff and destroyed a magnificent world-wide series. Now IndyCar is trying to make a comeback and is using gimmicks to entice the audience.
It would not surprise me in the least if they went to a Playoff Format at some point.
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MOEJOE
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Pandering to the core fan is what goes the distance. Gimmicks are a thing to reel in suckers and people who just don't know.
I will NEVER forget MIS, August 2011. I took my seat, and as the engines started, the guy sitting right behind me asks, is this where we see Danica?
I was stunned. Did this guy hit the friggin lottery? Or did he mug somebody for the ticket? Either way, I got to see my guy battle up front. From a mile away. That sucked. Blah blah.
Im out.
I will NEVER forget MIS, August 2011. I took my seat, and as the engines started, the guy sitting right behind me asks, is this where we see Danica?
I was stunned. Did this guy hit the friggin lottery? Or did he mug somebody for the ticket? Either way, I got to see my guy battle up front. From a mile away. That sucked. Blah blah.
Im out.
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Allen Bedgood
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I like the Chase. I know many disagree, but it provides some excitement. Just because THIS year played out like it did doesn't mean we need to get rid of the Chase. There has been years 1st place would have freaking RAN AWAY with the Title. Not how fans want it to be decided. Just my .02 cents.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Great comment Allen. Glad to have you aboard . Sane and rational thoughts can be rare around here.
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MOEJOE
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Oh how the Famous Brian has made it a community of this and that's. I HATE YOU BRIAN!!!!
PeopleAreStrange
2016 Yahoo Fantasy R-F Champion
I would rather someone run away with the title before the end of the season than have the chase where only ten races count instead of the entire season.
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
ummm. the entire season counts. When are people going to realize that
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I used to feel that the chase was entirely bogus, until Jeff Gordon said it was much harder to win a championship under this system than the full season championships he won.
People need to get over the whole chase thing. Football, baseball and Hockey all throw out season stats and start over in the playoffs. Quite often the 'lesser' team wins those titles without the fanbase crying foul.
People need to get over the whole chase thing. Football, baseball and Hockey all throw out season stats and start over in the playoffs. Quite often the 'lesser' team wins those titles without the fanbase crying foul.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
On the other hand , people just love to crap on Nascar . They really don't need a valid reason. It's just fun to do it. Non racing fans don't have near the hatred for Nascar that we see on this forum. The chase ,phantom cautions , unfair rulings , common templates , restrictor plates , hair cuts , dress codes , the whole thing. Maybe it's just the off season , better to come back when the racing starts.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Wait, all those are valid complaints!
mike honcho
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Or the Czech Republic.
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MOEJOE
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dpkimmel2001
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Many didn't seem to like me posting this last year but I'm bringing it back anyhow.
Points after Richmond.
Points after Richmond.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
another "chase lover I see.
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
Many didn't seem to like me posting this last year but I'm bringing it back anyhow.
Points after Richmond.
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well in NASCAR's defens:
Chase: 12 drivers within 15 points.
Non-Chase: 4 drivers within 14 points.
Not saying i agree with the chase, just that will be their argument the whole time.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Nothings going to change and I know that. I simply like seeing what could have been and so far, with the new single point per position change, I don't think the fans would have been short changed on battles to the end of the year. It's too bad they couldn't have tried that change long before they decided to reward mediocre seasons by placing those drivers in contention for the championship.
Jeffrey00
Stamos Cozy
I agree. With the NNS and Truck seasons it may be 3 to 4 drivers with a shot at the championship, but That is a whole season long experience. With the Chase most of the guys cruise the whole season to make the Chase, then it is "let's see who can put together the best 10 races this year."
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It is hard to do the should have could have.
JJ would not have stumbled so badly in the last four races.
Some others after securing a top 10 or locked in approched the last two events as R&D or as checkers or wreckers.
Bowyer would not have pulled the shenanigans at Richmond if his points were cumulative for every race. They also probably ran a more aggressive (blown) engine at Atlanta too thinking a win was all that mattered.
The drivers race according to how the current system rewards not on how it should without the chase. So imo you cant just compare with or without chase numbers to see who is most deserving. It provides a distorted pictue.
But I dont like the Chase either.
JJ would not have stumbled so badly in the last four races.
Some others after securing a top 10 or locked in approched the last two events as R&D or as checkers or wreckers.
Bowyer would not have pulled the shenanigans at Richmond if his points were cumulative for every race. They also probably ran a more aggressive (blown) engine at Atlanta too thinking a win was all that mattered.
The drivers race according to how the current system rewards not on how it should without the chase. So imo you cant just compare with or without chase numbers to see who is most deserving. It provides a distorted pictue.
But I dont like the Chase either.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
As you said last year, DPK, if nascar had this point system all along we probably wouldn't have the chase. The chase is about one thing, the networks.
StandOnIt
Farm Truck
it isn't points fixing or rigging the racing..it is called the "chase"
A fact that many seem to be overlooking.