Passion in NASCAR

Passion or a goon show. It's always been in goon show in my book. Here is more from the same night.
It's one on the main reasons I am not a short track fan. I think this is ridiculous if you have to do this to be able to pass and they cheer for this sorry ass move?
What a finish my ass.
 
Greg said:
Great racing doesnt need that kind of bullshiet.
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This weekend also saw this:



This is the sort of passion I want to see from the sport - competitors coming to each other's aid while racing hard and clean. What I don't want to see are wreckfests/caution flag parades and redneck slap fights between people trying to re-enact the days of Jim Crockett's Mid-Atlantic.
 


Count how many different teams are helping to get the car back in the race.
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DanicaFreak said:
Show passion!!! Wait not like that!!
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Correct. Showing concern about your fellow driver reinforces that this is dangerous. Choosing instead to use your car as a weapon and then continuing this with a full on fist fight in front of the grandstand while everyone watches on reinforces that the cars hitting things or each other isn't actually dangerous while also letting everyone watching know that the real spectacle isn't the racing, it's this Jerry Springer garbage.
 
virtualbalboa said:
Correct. Showing concern about your fellow driver reinforces that this is dangerous. Choosing instead to use your car as a weapon and then continuing this with a full on fist fight in front of the grandstand while everyone watches on reinforces that the cars hitting things or each other isn't actually dangerous while also letting everyone watching know that the real spectacle isn't the racing, it's this Jerry Springer garbage.
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I do like checking on other drivers…but I also like it when drivers aren’t best friends. You call drive the wheels off trying to beat a guy and not sing kimbyya.
 
DanicaFreak said:
I do like checking on other drivers…but I also like it when drivers aren’t best friends. You call drive the wheels off trying to beat a guy and not sing kimbyya.
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You quite plainly stated that you want to see more of the “passion” on display in the video that you posted.

Make up your mind.
 
aunty dive said:
You quite plainly stated that you want to see more of the “passion” on display in the video that you posted.

Make up your mind.
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I’d like to see some fisticuffs. I’d also like to see good sportsmanship by checking on other drivers. You can like fisticuffs and sportsmanship.
 
DanicaFreak said:
I’d like to see some fisticuffs. I’d also like to see good sportsmanship by checking on other drivers. You can like fisticuffs and sportsmanship.
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I'm all for NASCAR having a mobile boxing ring. Roll it out to the Start/Finish line after the race is over. Any driver/crew that chooses to "address" a competitor can, wearing 16oz gloves & headgear.

The crowd would love the idea, until, nobody stepped up. By end of race the passionate is on their plane headed home. I hate seeing guys root the leader out of the way on last lap. LAST race I went to, exactly that happened. Leader led 49 laps with 2nd 18" off his bumper...got moved entering three. I was pizzed and was just a spectator. Yes I capitalized last on purpose. ZERO interest in going to a race anymore. This type of thing has been normalized.
 
StandOnIt said:


Count how many different teams are helping to get the car back in the race.
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Late 80's early 90's I was the "emergency crew guy" for Tim Hitt in the OG Rocket House Car. I'd get to track during hotlaps. Was working for a living. Once in a while they'd break/get wrecked. I'd jump in and help. LOVED IT! I just didn't have the time/situation to be able to travel with them.

Another memory. Was at Pennsboro when they had winged Sprint Cars. Jack Hewitt blew up on first hotlap. I walked down to huge crowd watching them swap motor. They had car stuffed part way in trailer setting engine. Couldn't get ii to go. Pulled car back and somebody reached in and did something with coupler to crank. Pushed car back in and went right together.

Rolled it out and started thrashing. Were dropping tools/bolts and fumbling around...I dove in and started grabbing wrenches & bolts as they fell. Laid them out on rear tires. One guy said, "what are you doing" as I said keep going. Call for a wrench. They basically quit "dancing" at we turned it into an operating room. 9/16 box! Whack in his hand. We had it ready to push off in about 15 minutes. Once it left pits, the crew guy that started to get aggressive grabbed me and hugged me. Was laughing and said "we'd have never made it without you"! Who do work for? Nobody. Self-employed mechanic. "You want a job"?

It was awesome!!!
 
I hadn't watched that clip until seeing it on Facebook. Looks to me like it's very WWE. The teams probably have an agreement on scheduled fights cause that what brings the crowd back. Dude got tackled, stood up and adjusted his suit while acting like he was restrained. Just looks like fake fighting to me.
 
StandOnIt said:
Passion or a goon show. It's always been in goon show in my book. Here is more from the same night.
It's one on the main reasons I am not a short track fan. I think this is ridiculous if you have to do this to be able to pass and they cheer for this sorry ass move?
What a finish my ass.
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...on this I agree 100!
 
That passion and motivational response is the same thing that makes the wild west popular, makes survival shows popular, makes war movies popular, it is what makes football popular... dangerous and a lot of bravado.
 
I would hate to ever see racing being effected by who can be most the physically intimidating in the pits (or wherever away from the actual racing). It should not be a factor or a part of the science.
 
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