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I've thought about and I agree with you.Originally posted by bud_stud@Jun 10 2003, 12:45 PM
No offense to the fans, but all the P.E. cars are junk. Now maybe John can find a worthy ride and do something with it..
dont forget that kyle got hurt and was in a hell of a lot of pain.Originally posted by robby.31.is.#1@Jun 10 2003, 02:07 PM
another reason why i am backing up my theory that this was a classless move by kyle petty:
this season john has avg. 81.21 points per race
this season kyle has avg. 77.31 points per race
clearly john is having a better season than kyle, but a terrible season compared to the rest of the drivers in the series... if john goes then so does kyle.
4 and a half years 1 win and two poles with pettyOriginally posted by redrock@Jun 10 2003, 03:39 PM
Does anybody have John's stats? How many years, starts, wins?
John last fall and winter was lookign for another ride but PE wanted him to stay, bc he is a good spokesman for GM. When John could not find any other ride he stayed at PE. John was wanting to leave! SO yes he had the chance but not really since he could not find any other rides!Originally posted by robby.31.is.#1@Jun 10 2003, 11:51 AM
in all honesty its a pretty classless move by kyle, since john had the chance to leave this offseason but did not and remained loyal to PE...
i wonder what happens to the 44 with the planned races they had now...
now its time for Kyle to hang it up, definitely
9 years in CART ? 2 of those years where in F1 I belive! CF is a good guy and funny as well, he is not a whinner, or at least I have never heard him wine.Originally posted by redrock@Jun 10 2003, 01:03 PM
According to my calculations this is about four years past due! The Petty's live on their name only anymore, sad but true. Fittipadi was a whinner in CART and only had a couple of wins in nine years with a top level team, look for the same. First Toyota and now ride buyin' foreigners!! What is NASCAR becoming....CART!
Is the counting the race that he sat out????Originally posted by robby.31.is.#1@Jun 10 2003, 01:07 PM
another reason why i am backing up my theory that this was a classless move by kyle petty:
this season john has avg. 81.21 points per race
this season kyle has avg. 77.31 points per race
clearly john is having a better season than kyle, but a terrible season compared to the rest of the drivers in the series... if john goes then so does kyle.
This from a Robby Gordon fan...enough saidOriginally posted by robby.31.is.#1@Jun 10 2003, 05:51 PM
in all honesty its a pretty classless move by kyle, since john had the chance to leave this offseason but did not and remained loyal to PE...
i wonder what happens to the 44 with the planned races they had now...
now its time for Kyle to hang it up, definitely
damn straightOriginally posted by 4xchampncountin@Jun 10 2003, 08:31 PM
John wasn't going to win any time soon. Kyle is not likely to win any time soon either, but what is he going to do, fire himself? I think not. As far as I'm concerned Kyle can race as long as he wants to. He hasn't ran in the front of the pack for a long time, but he also doesn't knock cars out nearly as much as some other drivers (Robby Gordon, Jimmy Spencer, any Bodine, etc.). His long streak of races with no DNF's can attest to that. I also agree that if Adam hadn't met such a cruel fate Kyle would be out of a ride already. With all that the Petty family has gone through and what he and his father have accomplished over the years I would think they would get a little more respect than they are getting here. Just my opinion.
you know what your a real jerk for saying something like that. If there was not younger viewers on the fourm I would tell you what I think of you now after that comment, but I respect this fourm and the viewers and wont.Originally posted by toddgee24@Jun 10 2003, 08:25 PM
ok the over under for christain to wreck this weekend is lap 100, i have the under
This from a Robby Gordon fan...enough said [/b][/quote]Originally posted by 4xchampncountin+Jun 10 2003, 08:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4xchampncountin @ Jun 10 2003, 08:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--robby.31.is.#1@Jun 10 2003, 05:51 PM
in all honesty its a pretty classless move by kyle, since john had the chance to leave this offseason but did not and remained loyal to PE...
i wonder what happens to the 44 with the planned races they had now...
now its time for Kyle to hang it up, definitely
Freaking ridiculous, no wonder so many people have deserted this forum, because some of you people who are blind.Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Jun 10 2003, 08:31 PM
John wasn't going to win any time soon. Kyle is not likely to win any time soon either, but what is he going to do, fire himself? I think not. As far as I'm concerned Kyle can race as long as he wants to. He hasn't ran in the front of the pack for a long time, but he also doesn't knock cars out nearly as much as some other drivers (Robby Gordon, Jimmy Spencer, any Bodine, etc.). His long streak of races with no DNF's can attest to that. I also agree that if Adam hadn't met such a cruel fate Kyle would be out of a ride already. With all that the Petty family has gone through and what he and his father have accomplished over the years I would think they would get a little more respect than they are getting here. Just my opinion.
Had to come from a Jeff Gordon fan.Originally posted by toddgee24@Jun 10 2003, 08:25 PM
ok the over under for christain to wreck this weekend is lap 100, i have the under
Freaking ridiculous, no wonder so many people have deserted this forum, because some of you people who are blind.Originally posted by robby.31.is.#1+Jun 10 2003, 08:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (robby.31.is.#1 @ Jun 10 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--4xchampncountin@Jun 10 2003, 08:31 PM
John wasn't going to win any time soon. Kyle is not likely to win any time soon either, but what is he going to do, fire himself? I think not. As far as I'm concerned Kyle can race as long as he wants to. He hasn't ran in the front of the pack for a long time, but he also doesn't knock cars out nearly as much as some other drivers (Robby Gordon, Jimmy Spencer, any Bodine, etc.). His long streak of races with no DNF's can attest to that. I also agree that if Adam hadn't met such a cruel fate Kyle would be out of a ride already. With all that the Petty family has gone through and what he and his father have accomplished over the years I would think they would get a little more respect than they are getting here. Just my opinion.
Um, has not been competitive even when feeling good. His best avg finish for a season in the past 8 years is 19th. He's only had 1 top five in that span. I mean damn. I understand how things got turned upside down with Adam and all but sheesh. Step aside and let a younger driver drive it like he stole it.Originally posted by pettyfan4life@Jun 10 2003, 07:59 PM
you get put in the wall at 80gs and break a bunch of ribs and sit out a race and be in pain for 4 weeks and then get put in the wall again and hurt your ribs again and see if you can be competitive.
Um, has not been competitive even when feeling good. His best avg finish for a season in the past 8 years is 19th. He's only had 1 top five in that span. I mean damn. I understand how things got turned upside down with Adam and all but sheesh. Step aside and let a younger driver drive it like he stole it. [/b][/quote]Originally posted by N2racin88+Jun 10 2003, 09:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (N2racin88 @ Jun 10 2003, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--pettyfan4life@Jun 10 2003, 07:59 PM
you get put in the wall at 80gs and break a bunch of ribs and sit out a race and be in pain for 4 weeks and then get put in the wall again and hurt your ribs again and see if you can be competitive.
Um, has not been competitive even when feeling good. His best avg finish for a season in the past 8 years is 19th. He's only had 1 top five in that span. I mean damn. I understand how things got turned upside down with Adam and all but sheesh. Step aside and let a younger driver drive it like he stole it. [/b][/quote]Originally posted by N2racin88+Jun 10 2003, 09:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (N2racin88 @ Jun 10 2003, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--pettyfan4life@Jun 10 2003, 07:59 PM
you get put in the wall at 80gs and break a bunch of ribs and sit out a race and be in pain for 4 weeks and then get put in the wall again and hurt your ribs again and see if you can be competitive.
Come on now. Really. That is a stretch. I do not need to bring up any stats because they speak for themselve. You stated that Kyle has not been competitive due to his injury. All I am saying is that injury or not he has not been competitive in nearly a decade. I think that he would be better suite to leaving that ride. Before you know it Brawny will either cut even more funding or he'll lose that sponser as well. Get a young up and coming star and be his tutor. Otherwise that program will get run into the ground further then it already is.Originally posted by pettyfan4life@Jun 10 2003, 08:38 PM
you cant really be talking(not to sound mean) but Dale Jarret hasent had a good year either
Not to mention a championship.Originally posted by bud_stud@Jun 10 2003, 09:08 PM
This is pretty much turning into a bitch fight thread...
Fact of the matter is, John deserves a better ride.. and Kyle needs to be out of his ride. Let a young gun take it over, and drive it like he stole it. I dont know about you all, but I think its a damn shame week in and week out that a P.E. car finishes lower than 40th. Richard Petty built the Petty name, but this crap is killing it.. no offense to any fans... but thats my 2 cents on this issue.
BTW, ya cant really throw Dale Jarrett into this.. He's already had a win this year. He'll win more..