Phoenix, Loudon and Dover are not short tracks....

Yep, if contact doesn't become a requirement it's not a short track.
 
Uh, Richmond is 3/4 of a mile. The last time I checked, it was considered a short track, as was anything under 1 mile, not under 1/2 mile. I think 7/8th Iowa is considered one too.

I'd say both Mikey and Jr are mistaken. Actually, I think Jr. made a typo and Mikey was using the word 'short' in a generic sense of 'shorter than the first three tracks we've run this year'.
 
I can understand why Mikey might consider anything that doesn't require a restrictor plate to be a short track. They all kind of run together for him, for some reason.

Charlie Spencer said:
Uh, Richmond is 3/4 of a mile. The last time I checked, it was considered a short track, as was anything under 1 mile, not under 1/2 mile. I think 7/8th Iowa is considered one too.
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Agreed, Richmond is a short track. Iowa is straddling the line, but is most similar to Richmond, so it is too. The tracks mentioned in the thread title are not. Calling Dover a short track is ridiculous.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I'm not sure how Dover and Loudon got dragged into this discussion in the first place.
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Andy has mentioned it before, I guess they do get referred to as short tracks by a few when they roll around on the schedule.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Eh, it's like hearing people refer to 'Canadian Geese'. It's wrong (they're correctly called 'Canada Geese'), but the phrases are usually used by people who don't know any better. Casual fans, local reporters, Michael Waltrip, etc.
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they are Canadian Geese when they are crapping on the golfers putting greens, when they fly over in spring and fall they are Canada geese.
 
StandOnIt said:
they are Canadian Geese when they are crapping on the golfers putting greens, when they fly over in spring and fall they are Canada geese.
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I thought those were just called Canadians, or maybe Snowbirds.

EDIT: besides, is putting around goose crap any harder than getting the ball through the windmill?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Eh, it's like hearing people refer to 'Canadian Geese'. It's wrong (they're correctly called 'Canada Geese'), but the phrases are usually used by people who don't know any better. Casual fans, local reporters, Michael Waltrip, etc.
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lol
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'm trying to figure out why anyone gives a dang about this subject. I mean, it's Michael Waltrip.

You get too easily worked up @AndyMarquisLive.
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You might as well try to figure out who the heck would follow Mikey's Twitter feed in the first place.

Then again, that might lead to questioning following anyone's Twaddle... :blink:
 
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they are Canadian Geese when they are crapping on the golfers putting greens, when they fly over in spring and fall they are Canada geese.
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I guess it depends on which direction they are flying, if they're headed south they're "Canadian". If they're headed back home they'd be "Canada".
 
Anything is better than their real name. There goes a flock of Branta canadensis? I've heard Canadian's called many things, but canadedsis's :p:D
Which is correct Canada or Canadian geese?
The vast majority of English speaking people call the goose that is large and has a black head—Branta canadensis—a Canadian Goose. However, its original name was a CANADA Goose. Remember, the official name for any bird is its Latin name. So the “real” name for this creature is Branta canadensis.Jan 12, 2004
 
Traditionally it should be a track around a half mile long, but these jackasses effectively destroyed the best part of the season, so they moved the goal post a bit to include any smaller track not ran on a 1.5 cookie cutter. In a couple years if darlington is still standing, I’m sure you’ll start hearing a few talking heads trying to claim it to also be a short track.
 
gnomesayin said:
Andy has mentioned it before, I guess they do get referred to as short tracks by a few when they roll around on the schedule.
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Every time NASCAR goes to Loudon, Phoenix and Dover, Fox and NBC call them short tracks.

I could see trying to make the argument for Loudon and Phoenix (they're not short tracks but whatever), but Dover? Dover's one of the best tracks on the schedule, but it is not a short track.

Just because these tracks aren't brobdingnagian monstrosities doesn't mean they're short tracks.
 
Short tracks, mile tracks, 1.5 cookie cutter tracks, intermediate tracks, big tracks, plate tracks, road courses - I'm glad there is variety.
 
Zerkfitting said:
Short tracks, mile tracks, 1.5 cookie cutter tracks, intermediate tracks, big tracks, plate tracks, road courses - I'm glad there is variety.
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Need more short tracks.

Just saying "Phoenix and Loudon are short tracks" doesn't change that there aren't enough short tracks on the schedule.
 
I just want to meet the person who said "let's get Michael Waltrip in front of a camera as often as possible". I would like to subject that person to some sort of ritualistic torture before finally killing them. Michael's shtick grew old about a decade and a half ago.
 
Formerjackman said:
I just want to meet the person who said "let's get Michael Waltrip in front of a camera as often as possible". I would like to subject that person to some sort of ritualistic torture before finally killing them. Michael's shtick grew old about a decade and a half ago.
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Does this mean you won't be endorsing his entry into the Hall of Fame?
 
aunty dive said:
Does this mean you won't be endorsing his entry into the Hall of Fame?
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Eeewwwwww......now that's a can of worms. Mikey in the HoF? Surely not, if he gets in, then Donnie Allison is a lock. The biggest asset Mikey ever had was his brother, and he did manage to win two Daytoner fihunnerts. Actually, Donnie was a far better wheel man than Mikey ever dreamed of being.
 
Yes because there are tracks shorter than a half mile..

Oh wait the shortest track is Martinsville and if I recall correctly that track is 0.526 miles...

So then by Jr's definition there are NO short tracks in NASCAR at all?
 
aunty dive said:
Does this mean you won't be endorsing his entry into the Hall of Fame?
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Personally, I wouldn't endorse him for a job at McDonalds. His constant running off at the mouth in that Mickey Mouse voice would likely scare customers away.
 
Formerjackman said:
I just want to meet the person who said "let's get Michael Waltrip in front of a camera as often as possible". I would like to subject that person to some sort of ritualistic torture before finally killing them. Michael's shtick grew old about a decade and a half ago.
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As long as the ritualistic torture involves pinning his eyelids open and subjecting him to continuous repeated viewings of his creation, I'm cool with that.
 
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