Pit Road speed rule to be observed

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Ventisca, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. Ventisca

    Ventisca Crew Chief Contributor

  2. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I wasn't aware pit road speed limit didn't already apply during qualifying.
     
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  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Kinda hard to argue with timing lines I would think. Cut n dried.
     
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  4. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Kyle Busch win counter guy Contributor

    Imagine that ! all the drivers are subject to the same rules :eek: heck .... they even race on the same track :eek::eek::eek:
     
  5. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Kyle Busch win counter guy Contributor



    Rowdy Nation has endured many a speeding penalty throughout the years, we always recover and move on.
     
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  6. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Somebody at Gibbs better make sure Denny Hamlin gets the word.
     
  7. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    With this story, NASCAR is only trying to divert our attention from the real problem facing NASCAR right now..... The start/restart rules.
     
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  8. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Kyle Busch win counter guy Contributor



    We will never forget the Elliot penalty, we will stand strong until the wrong has been made right :booya: Kyle Bush MUST hand over that trophy
     
  9. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    I don't think it is a problem. These young kids just have to learn there are penalties for not following the rules. Pit road is the same, if you want faster stops learn to enter and exit better
    and have a great crew. ( Kyle Bush) On the other hand if you want to play with the speed on pit road be another Denny.
     
  10. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Yes, but has been said, in typical NASCAR fashion, it's a complicated answer to a simple question. It would be FAR easier, and as has been pointed out safer to simply penalize cars for exceeding a set number, whatever that is, at ANY point on pit road.
     
  11. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Yep not knowing that the number one car at the start of the race has to come across the line first regardless is driver error not Nascar's and the fans that don't know the rules. Now because of a few, pit road speeds during qualifying have to be enforced. It's a game changer, they can't blast out and into the pits now.
     
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  12. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Bowyer and Dillon almost killed a guy racing off pit road at Atlanta. And who could forget the cluster at Las Vegas a few weeks ago.
     
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  13. Turtle84

    Turtle84 Crew Chief

    Yup. Bowyer/Dillon was my first thought.
     
  14. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Valid points. Somehow I must have missed the full significance of those actions. Thanks.
     
  15. CalTenn

    CalTenn Team Owner

    Why was the guy on pit road, just make sure pit road is clear and letem go. There doesn’t need to be a rule about everything.
     
  16. dpkimmel2001

    dpkimmel2001 Team Owner

    Pretty understandable to me why they'd want to implement this rule during qualifying as well. The disparity in speed on pit road shown in the video posted above shows why it's necessary. They created a clusterf%$k on pit road with this current qualifying procedure.

    I miss the simplified version of qualifying for a race. Can only speak for myself but I don't find today's method entertaining in the least. When it was announced, I though it was a great idea. After a few short weeks of watching it, I came to hate it. I prefer one man, one car, against the clock. I like the sound of the single car circling the track with the driver giving his/her all. It was a method that set itself apart from watching what amounts to nothing more than a mini race. A shorter segment, if you will. There is nothing that stands out about qualifying runs these days. Of those of you that have been around long enough to remember the old method, who can forget the times when drivers gave it their all, only to push it beyond the limit. The engine went silent only to hear the cars tires sliding across the pavement. Many won't get it, perhaps some will.

    In any event, this rule change is nothing more than protecting the drivers from their own stupidity. Not a big deal and it takes nothing away from the process itself.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2019
  17. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    I agree with that part of your post.

    It should be pointed out that NASCAR is starting to enforce the rules after decades of not doing it. 'member our beginnings were as outlaws - Yee-haw! Thus, what is left of the fan base, and the teams are confused.
     
  18. Formerjackman

    Formerjackman Team Owner

    Other than a select few tracks like Bristol, I find single car qualifying DREADFULLY boring. I was skeptical at first of the new system, but I really like to have something I am only mildly interested in the first place be over in about 15 minutes of actual on track time. If you DVR it, you can get it done in about 10. Now, granted, with the new aero package, at least the qualifying at Atlanta was absurd, so maybe we NEED the old system, but I'd hate for it to come to that.
     
  19. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    If I was at the track, I really preferred the old system. If you picked a couple of reference points around the track and could count at a reasonably steady pace, you could tell for yourself who was running a hot lap and who was dragging tail, even at the 1/2-mile tracks. That goes out the door with multiple cars, since you can't keep track of who's where in your head.

    On TV, I definitely preferred the new system up until late '17 or so. It was more entertaining on TV to have multiple cars out there at once. It also makes the process much fairer than spreading runs out over as much as two hours of changing weather conditions.

    I don't prefer it anymore. I don't see anything entertaining in this sitting around on pit road until there's barely enough time to get in a couple of laps, and then running over each other. Two years ago they punished inspection infractions by making the drivers sit on pit road during practice. Now drivers are sitting there voluntarily during Q.

    I don't know what the solution is. I'd about prefer eliminating it entirely and going with fastest 10-lap practice average. Regardless, changing Q first requires NASCAR (re: Fox and NBC) to consider it to be a problem. The Fox guys sound like they have to replace their underwear after each round, so I doubt anything will happen this season.
     
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  20. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    Me to, I could tell who was on a hot lap and who was not. It was also great to know where they get in and out of the gas, especially at BRISTOL.
     
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  21. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    "Looks like they get out of the gas right about when they're even with Newman's pit box, and get back into it in 2 when they get to the Unocal sign."

    Real easy to tell with single-car runs when you're sitting there, even at the 1.5ers.
     

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