R-F Race Ratings 2016

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
17. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
18. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
19. Texas (4/9): 7.03
20. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
21. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
22. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
23. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
24. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
25. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
26. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

Don't worry....the one member who rated the race a 0 three times in the Rate the Race thread, I only counted it once and I counted it as a 1.

 

[blanston]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
17. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
18. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
19. Texas (4/9): 7.03
20. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
21. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
22. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
23. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
24. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
25. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
26. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

Don't worry....the one member who rated the race a 0 three times in the Rate the Race thread, I only counted it once and I counted it as a 1.

I still thought it was going to average out higher. All I saw were 9s!

 

[ToyYoda]

I still thought it was going to average out higher. All I saw were 9s!

There were a few 5's and 6's in there too, and there were actually two 1's for some reason.

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
17. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
18. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
19. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
20. Texas (4/9): 7.03
21. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
22. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
23. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
24. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
25. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
26. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
27. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
17. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
18. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
19. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
20. Texas (4/9): 7.03
21. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
22. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
23. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
24. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
25. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
26. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
27. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
28. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[ToyYoda]

Quite a drop from the May race...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
17. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
18. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
19. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
20. Texas (4/9): 7.03
21. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
22. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
23. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
24. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
25. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
26. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
27. Dover (10/2): 6.14
28. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
29. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[Skoalbandit33]

Quite a drop from the May race...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
17. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
18. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
19. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
20. Texas (4/9): 7.03
21. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
22. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
23. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
24. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
25. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
26. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
27. Dover (10/2): 6.14
28. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
29. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

I saw the spring race as about a 6 and still can't fathom why the race was liked so much asI must have been napping during the good stuff. Hope you are still loving your new truck!

 

[ToyYoda]

I saw the spring race as about a 6 and still can't fathom why the race was liked so much asI must have been napping during the good stuff. Hope you are still loving your new truck!

Yep, 2,000 miles on it already!

 

[LewTheShoe]

I agree with both Dover ratings. The May race was a certified barn burner, with the outcome decided at the very end between multiple drivers who left it all out there on the racetrack. The fall race was a boring display of sissy driving points racing... bleh.

 

[LewTheShoe]

Just FYI, Jeff Gluck's poll remains in sync with the R-F poll (on both Dover races).

 

[Michfan]

Quite a drop from the May race...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
16. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
17. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
18. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
19. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
20. Texas (4/9): 7.03
21. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
22. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
23. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
24. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
25. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
26. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
27. Dover (10/2): 6.14
28. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
29. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

I think two big things contribute to the disparity.

1. None of the top guys wanted to mix it up too much and miss advancing in the chase.

2. I think teams have made up a lot of the lost downforce.

 

[R Clarence]

There were 12 cautions/restarts and a pile of torn up race cars in the spring edition. “Fans” really like that sort of thing.

 

[ToyYoda]

There were 12 cautions/restarts and a pile of torn up race cars in the spring edition. “Fans” really like that sort of thing.

I actually rated Sunday's race an 8 solely for the fact that NASCAR let it play out and didn't throw any curious cautions.

 

[NasNYG567]

2. I think teams have made up a lot of the lost downforce.

I don't understand how this is allowed, did NASCAR not mandate that they have to keep the same amount of downforce?

 

[aunty dive]

There's nothing to understand. They're nowhere near the old numbers.

 

[Efisher131]

There were 12 cautions/restarts and a pile of torn up race cars in the spring edition. “Fans” really like that sort of thing.

I liked it more for the epic 3 car battle at the end.

 

[Charlie Spencer]

I don't understand how this is allowed, did NASCAR not mandate that they have to keep the same amount of downforce?

NASCAR mandates the body configurations, etc.. The teams have figured out what to do with the non-mandated settings to increase the amount of downforce.

It looks like the second races are almost all lower than the first ones.

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
17. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
18. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
19. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
20. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
21. Texas (4/9): 7.03
22. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
23. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
24. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
25. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
26. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
27. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
28. Dover (10/2): 6.14
29. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
30. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[racingfan7]

I am surprised to see Kentucky ranked as low as it is considering the fuel mileage finish, and what I thought was decent racing for a repave.

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
17. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
18. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
19. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
20. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
21. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
22. Texas (4/9): 7.03
23. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
24. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
25. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
26. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
27. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
28. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
29. Dover (10/2): 6.14
30. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
31. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[29-4]

I was extremely bored at work today, so I took all the ratings from this year along with some racing reference data to see what predicts positive ratings on this board in a regression. Nothing very surprising. It seems that fans here rate short tracks & road courses higher, along with races with more lead changes and narrower margins of victory. Restrictor plates are the omitted category & the lowest rated. Lead changes is the strongest predictor of rating. Surprisingly, cautions don't matter (if I had more time, I'd adjust for BS cautions).

 

[ToyYoda]

Much like the Gibbs cars, Talladega is at the back of the pack...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
17. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
18. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
19. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
20. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
21. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
22. Texas (4/9): 7.03
23. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
24. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
25. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
26. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
27. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
28. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
29. Dover (10/2): 6.14
30. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
31. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
32. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[dpkimmel2001]

Much like the Gibbs cars, Talladega is at the back of the pack...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
17. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
18. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
19. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
20. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
21. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
22. Texas (4/9): 7.03
23. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
24. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
25. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
26. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
27. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
28. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
29. Dover (10/2): 6.14
30. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
31. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
32. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

'Liked' your post but not the results.

 

[ToyYoda]

'Liked' your post but not the results.

I actually thought it was a pretty good race, but there were a lot of ratings in the 1-5 range.

 

[dpkimmel2001]

I actually thought it was a pretty good race, but there were a lot of ratings in the 1-5 range.

I don't want to trash a perfectly good thread with additional plate hate but I totally agree with your assessment.

 

[LewTheShoe]

FYI, the Jeff Gluck poll also rated the race poorly. Voters were 50:50 on the question, "Was it a good race?" Gluck wondered if fans are becoming fatigued from the long season, as second visits to a track have usually scored lower than the first visit. Another possible theory... Winner Logano has fewer fans.

 

[ToyYoda]

Fall Martinsville will not repeat as R-F's race of the year...

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville (4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. Martinsville (10/30): 7.67
17. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
18. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
19. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
20. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
21. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
22. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
23. Texas (4/9): 7.03
24. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
25. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
26. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
27. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
28. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
29. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
30. Dover (10/2): 6.14
31. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
32. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
33. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville(4/3): 8.54
6. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
7. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
8. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
9. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
10. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
11. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
12. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
13. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
14. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
15. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
16. Martinsville (10/30): 7.67
17. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
18. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
19. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
20. Texas (11/6): 7.52
21. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
22. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
23. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
24. Texas (4/9): 7.03
25. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
26. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
27. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
28. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
29. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
30. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
31. Dover (10/2): 6.14
32. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
33. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
34. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[ToyYoda]

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville(4/3): 8.54
6. Phoenix (11/13): 8.42
7. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
8. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
9. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
10. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
11. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
12. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
13. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
14. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
15. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
16. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
17. Martinsville (10/30): 7.67
18. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
19. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
20. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
21. Texas (11/6): 7.52
22. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
23. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
24. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
25. Texas (4/9): 7.03
26. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
27. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
28. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
29. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
30. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
31. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
32. Dover (10/2): 6.14
33. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
34. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
35. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[LouieLouie]

It's really interesting to see the 2 Dover races on opposite ends, and the 2 Phoenix races near the top. Both Daytona and Dega races near the bottom too.

 

[ToyYoda]

Congratulations to Dover International Speedway for winning the 2016 Racing Forums Race of the Year for the May race. Miles's trophy is in the mail.

1. Dover (5/15): 9.46
2. Fontana (3/20): 8.86
3. Sonoma (6/26): 8.75
4. Richmond (4/24): 8.61
5. Martinsville(4/3): 8.54
6. Phoenix (11/13): 8.42
7. Atlanta (2/28): 8.39
8. Phoenix (3/13): 8.08
9. Darlington (9/4): 8.03
10. Las Vegas (3/6): 8.00
11. Bristol (8/20-8/21): 7.97
12. Pocono (6/6): 7.91
13. Richmond (9/10): 7.90
14. Michigan (6/12): 7.87
15. Pocono (8/1): 7.86
16. Charlotte (10/9): 7.69
17. Martinsville (10/30): 7.67
18. New Hampshire (7/17): 7.63
19. Chicagoland (9/18): 7.61
20. Bristol (4/17): 7.53
21. Texas (11/6): 7.52
22. Homestead (11/20): 7.50
23. Kansas (10/16): 7.43
24. Watkins Glen (8/7): 7.36
25. Kentucky (7/9): 7.13
26. Texas (4/9): 7.03
27. New Hampshire (9/25): 6.93
28. Talladega (5/1): 6.85
29. Michigan (8/28): 6.57
30. Daytona (7/2): 6.51
31. Kansas (5/7): 6.50
32. Daytona (2/21): 6.25
33. Dover (10/2): 6.14
34. Charlotte (5/29): 6.11
35. Talladega (10/23): 6.06
36. Indianapolis (7/24): 3.68

 

[Efisher131]

A lot of very good races this year. I agree with the winner.

 

[LewTheShoe]

Jeff Gluck's weekly poll has generally tracked closely with the R-F poll, but the two are radically different this week. FWIW, I agree with the Gluck poll as Homestead is a perfect racetrack for Cup cars, and this year was a barn-burner of a race with close skill-based competition and plenty of championship drama. Others obviously disagree.