RATE THE RACE: Lenox 301 at New Hampshire

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8 - wet, wild and wacky finish in New England.

Coverage - 8.5

Winner - 3, don't like SKurt, but it could've been Wild Thing;)
 
It was a good race. The only thing that would have made it better was Burton winng
 
I'd give it a 7 and only because of the last 20 or so laps. Most if it was kind of boring, a typical NHMS race. The ending was good. Would have given it an 8 had the race gone the distance.
 
Didn't grab me as being that exciting of a race, but then again most Cup races at NH aren't that exciting...i'll give a 4.
 
6 for most of the race. 7 for the bit of excitement before and during the caution. 2 for the ending.
 
Hate that it had to end in the rain, but I saw a lot of good hard racing today.
8.
 
the first 90% a 6 the last 10% a 9. I was laughing my ass off at JPM. I don't know what was funnier him spinning shrub or his interview saying he did it on purpose. at least has balls and didn't say it was "one of those racing deals" and Michael Waltrip finished 2nd and Martin Truex did well too.
 
dannynascar said:
the first 90% a 6 the last 10% a 9. I was laughing my ass off at JPM. I don't know what was funnier him spinning shrub or his interview saying he did it on purpose. at least has balls and didn't say it was "one of those racing deals" and Michael Waltrip finished 2nd and Martin Truex did well too.
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And him being truthful cost him 2 laps. While Kyle, who knows how to play the game, escaped punishment. JPM will need to get smarter if he's ever going to be a player. As someone pointed out that's one reason why he's 700+ points behind. He has to respond to every challenge.
 
barelypure said:
And him being truthful cost him 2 laps. While Kyle, who knows how to play the game, escaped punishment. JPM will need to get smarter if he's ever going to be a player. As someone pointed out that's one reason why he's 700+ points behind. He has to respond to every challenge.
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:rolleyes:

It's not because of how Kyle plays the game. Some of the stuff he's done is no less intentional, deliberate, brash or obvious as Montoya. Simply put, Kyle Busch is the new Junyer. Everything he does, FOX and ESPN will worship. If NASCAR penalizes Kyle for "creating excitement" (as the pundits at Turner Sports owned NASCAR.com put it), the media will revolt.

Shall I remind you of his whole "I'll wreck as many cars as I need to" comment. I can tell, first hand, drivers and crew members (in general) lost a lot of respect for him after that. Now, notice how FOX and ESPN never emphasized that comment. If Juan Pablo had said the same thing, they would've crucified him.

Now, I don't know what the happenings inside the sanctioning body are, but I would hope they set the same standard to Montoya as they did to Kyle and others this year, score him a 2 lap penalty and be done with it.

I did notice, in watching the replays on NASCAR.com, that Wally pointed out that Kyle cross-checked Montoya when he was turned. Wasn't that just as dangerous as JPM spinning Kyle in the first place?

Again, I don't know the happenings inside NASCAR, but I hope they do the right thing and apply the same standard to JPM that they applied to Kurt at Dover and Darlington and to Kyle on countless occassions.
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
I can tell, first hand, drivers and crew members (in general) lost a lot of respect for him after that.
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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Again, I don't know the happenings inside NASCAR, but I hope they do the right thing and apply the same standard to JPM that they applied to Kurt at Dover and Darlington and to Kyle on countless occassions.
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So you know how the drivers and crew members feel but in the same breath you don't know the happenings inside Nascar. Dude! If you're so close to the drivers and crew members that they are sharing their feelings about another driver surely they'll clue you in on what Nascar is doing about it. Doesn't one follow the other. Or, is this just 1 more case of where you're mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash.

And, to bring up what Kyle said weeks ago as some kind of justification is just weak. Kyle didn't admit that he did anything on purpose. But, you in your ominpotentence knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men can step up and tell us exactly what he was doing. He didn't admit to it, he wasn't penalized. JPM did admit to turning Kyle and he was penalized. Did you, oh Great One, ever think that it was just that simple. And, usually the simplest reasons are the best ones.
Besides this is a slight difference to putting a wheel mark on the side and actually turning a car with oncoming traffic. But then I don't really expect you to use any common sense...
 
barelypure said:
So you know how the drivers and crew members feel but in the same breath you don't know the happenings inside Nascar. Dude! If you're so close to the drivers and crew members that they are sharing their feelings about another driver surely they'll clue you in on what Nascar is doing about it. Doesn't one follow the other. Or, is this just 1 more case of where you're mouth is writing checks your ass can't cash.

And, to bring up what Kyle said weeks ago as some kind of justification is just weak. Kyle didn't admit that he did anything on purpose. But, you in your ominpotentence knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men can step up and tell us exactly what he was doing. He didn't admit to it, he wasn't penalized. JPM did admit to turning Kyle and he was penalized. Did you, oh Great One, ever think that it was just that simple. And, usually the simplest reasons are the best ones.
Besides this is a slight difference to putting a wheel mark on the side and actually turning a car with oncoming traffic. But then I don't really expect you to use any common sense...
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Harvick never admitted to spinning the 18 truck at Martinsville, but he got penalized for that.;)

And when I said I don't know the happenings inside NASCAR, I was speaking primairly of the sanctioning body.;)
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Harvick never admitted to spinning the 18 truck at Martinsville, but he got penalized for that.;)
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No Harvick got penalized for showing his ass once he left the track. Remember speeding thru the garage area, parking his car, and saying if they wanted to speak to him they knew where to find him. That's what led to him being sat down.
His actions on the track would have been a fine and probation at best.
 
barelypure said:
No Harvick got penalized for showing his ass once he left the track. Remember speeding thru the garage area, parking his car, and saying if they wanted to speak to him they knew where to find him. That's what led to him being sat down.
His actions on the track would have been a fine and probation at best.
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That's not the reason NASCAR, ESPN or FOX gave at the time.
 
From Lindsay's blog;)

The quote of the day, however, came from Kyle Busch who was qualifying for his Nationwide car. After I interviewed him on camera, I asked him “off camera” how his cup car was.. he said it was awful. That they had made it a little better but he still needed a lot more. I joked that he was hard on his crew. He said “why do you think I’ve won 5 races, my crew last year couldn’t take it.” Wow. At least he’s direct.
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:XXROFL:

Ky's good for something. At least he produces good quotables once in a while.:D
 
If you want to be a winner, you got to ruffle some feathers, Kyles winning and his crew may get pissed once in a while, but they like winning too!!

Duane
 
Andy, so you think that Kyle is the new Junyer huh? Tell you what, not only would NASCAR like it better, but all the networks and everyone else would rather have JPM the new Junyer. You really do think childish. :rolleyes:
 
buckaroo said:
Andy, so you think that Kyle is the new Junyer huh? Tell you what, not only would NASCAR like it better, but all the networks and everyone else would rather have JPM the new Junyer. You really do think childish. :rolleyes:
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He is a child. Only a mere 19 isn't it? :)
 
tkj24 said:
He is a child. Only a mere 19 isn't it? :)
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Nineteen, twenty, whatever! I remember how much I thought I knew at that age. I was an expert on just about everything. LOL I knew exactly how to raise a kid properly and then they'd act just as they were expected. Then I had kids. :D
 
WNY24Fan said:
Nineteen, twenty, whatever! I remember how much I thought I knew at that age. I was an expert on just about everything. LOL I knew exactly how to raise a kid properly and then they'd act just as they were expected. Then I had kids. :D
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:) Not to go too far off subject, but we all go through that. It's been said, and I've witnessed this, that kids don't get over that until about the age of 25. Andy still has a way to go, but it's normal. Well, maybe not as much as he does, but he'll learn...one of these days. ;)
 
buckaroo said:
:) Not to go too far off subject, but we all go through that. It's been said, and I've witnessed this, that kids don't get over that until about the age of 25. Andy still has a way to go, but it's normal. Well, maybe not as much as he does, but he'll learn...one of these days. ;)
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Well, we can certainly hope and PRAY he does! If not, I fear he may just
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LOL.
 
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