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I wonder if we can petition NASCAR to send all the armchair safety experts here on Racing-Forums to each track to examine every safety flaw at the tracks.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I wonder if we can petition NASCAR to send all the armchair safety experts here on Racing-Forums to each track to examine every safety flaw at the tracks.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Come on now, Andy, you're an expert on anything and everything Nascar and calling the rest of out because we feel a driver could've been needlessly killed? I'm sending this thread to the Academy as my nomination the most ironic in the history of www.racing-forums.com.

Yes, we certainly could petition Nascar to do as you asked but I doubt they agree to our request.
 
Would it be a knee jerk reaction if everybody had 55 decals to remember Mark by at Bristol?
 
Nobody saw the flaw, so it didn't need fixing. Leave that car slicer exposed the way it is, and someone may regret it. I say extend the infield wall a bit more if possible. That could have been ugly if GF pit stops were underway.
 
FenderBumper said:
Nobody saw the flaw, so it didn't need fixing. Leave that car slicer exposed the way it is, and someone may regret it. I say extend the infield wall a bit more if possible. That could have been ugly if GF pit stops were underway.
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So after how many more laps around the race track? A million, a billion?
 
How come no one has EVER brought up this "DANGEROUS" wall before?
 
I'm sick and tired of, after every race, everyone feeling the need to blame NASCAR for something. Next week, there will be a caution and NASCAR will be blamed for it because they didn't see how the possiblity of a car hitting the quarter panel of another car could cause a car to spin............ :rolleyes:
 
As I said in another thread, quote "Dont blame anybody, the problem was not known until yesterday and now I'm sure it will be attended to." unquote.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I'm sick and tired of, after every race, everyone feeling the need to blame NASCAR for something. Next week, there will be a caution and NASCAR will be blamed for it because they didn't see how the possiblity of a car hitting the quarter panel of another car could cause a car to spin............ :rolleyes:
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Blame???? Who's blaming anyone, and for what?

Are you being an armchair sensationalist media type?
 
Johali said:
As I said in another thread, quote "Dont blame anybody, the problem was not known until yesterday and now I'm sure it will be attended to." unquote.
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As in the other thread, "I agree" unquote:D They will fix it and move on. Don't get the argument here. It'd be pretty damn stupid for them not to correct it now.
 
FenderBumper said:
Blame???? Who's blaming anyone, and for what?

Are you being an armchair sensationalist media type?
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Hold that thought a second.

SST55 said:
2 feet forward and we might be talking about something else rather than him getting out of the car. DAMM that was a vicious hit.
Another consquence of two cars racing to stay on the lead lap with no regard for the leaders. And of course wan pablum says it wasn't his fault.....
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Jeffrey00 said:
it seems some only want to see racing when it benefits them. i personally want to see cars try to race hard to stay on the lead lap. especially in the very early stages of races. what happened with Mark could have been very unfortunate, but was just a strange mishap. if he didn't hit the wall that way you dont make this thread today. quit blaming the racing, and blame NASCAR's safety.
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ted@economy said:
Quit blaming Nascar and blame the track.
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Jeffrey00 said:
should be hand in hand if you ask me.
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ted@economy said:
Yeah they are , but so are the drivers . They too, have an obligation to bring their safety concerns forward. There is plenty of blame to go around.
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ted@economy said:
The tracks just need the benefit of our twenty twenty hindsight .
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You were saying?
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Hold that thought a second.








You were saying?
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Thanks for proving our point. Next time you want to address Jeffrey, just send him a PM and give the rest of us a break, because he's the only one to 'blame' nascar.

You posted a bunch of stuff about blaming drivers and tracks to beef up your argument. Re-read what you posted and I quoted.
 
Some fundamental improvements are needed, thanks Andy for your conscious and calling this conference.

First as a preliminary one hour before the green, all shoes will be collected tagged and stored away by track personal. They can be picked up at the shoe claim station afterwards.

Most importantly all legal women wearing heels, and hot pants, tight pants, short skirts, or short shorts will go to the VIP stage or seats, for lots of tv coverage.
 
Smoke14 said:
Good one Andy. :rolleyes:
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It's the third straight week NASCAR's been blamed for problems over safety. Since everyone on here has all the answers, I think everyone should do their civic duty and put their qualifications to work by working with NASCAR to fix the problems.

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AndyMarquisLive said:
It's the third straight week NASCAR's been blamed for problems over safety. Since everyone on here has all the answers, I think everyone should do their civic duty and put their qualifications to work by working with NASCAR to fix the problems.

:)
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we are all in line. right behind you.
 
I can't believe how many people have gotten online or on the radio and really badmouthing NASCAR and MIS for the Martin crash. MIS has been open over 40 years and this is the first time something like this has happened. It was a fluke accident. But to hear some people talk, you'd think MIS is the most dangerous track on the circuit and they're terrible for allowing such danger to happen. What's going to happen with another fluke accident happens at Charlotte or Atlanta were pit road has no outside wall? It's impossible to predict every scenario that could possibly happen.
 
MRM said:
I can't believe how many people have gotten online or on the radio and really badmouthing NASCAR and MIS for the Martin crash. MIS has been open over 40 years and this is the first time something like this has happened. It was a fluke accident. But to hear some people talk, you'd think MIS is the most dangerous track on the circuit and they're terrible for allowing such danger to happen. What's going to happen with another fluke accident happens at Charlotte or Atlanta were pit road has no outside wall? It's impossible to predict every scenario that could possibly happen.
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Sensationalism keeps people listening to boring ass radio shows with boring ass so called radio personalities so that they can feed their over inflated egos and the same goes for the print press.
 
MRM said:
I can't believe how many people have gotten online or on the radio and really badmouthing NASCAR and MIS for the Martin crash. MIS has been open over 40 years and this is the first time something like this has happened. It was a fluke accident. But to hear some people talk, you'd think MIS is the most dangerous track on the circuit and they're terrible for allowing such danger to happen. What's going to happen with another fluke accident happens at Charlotte or Atlanta were pit road has no outside wall? It's impossible to predict every scenario that could possibly happen.
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I agree it impossible to see every possibility. But I do think they should respond by moving it or reconfigure the pit exit to garage opening. I think will, and they would have without the outrage.
 
MRM said:
I can't believe how many people have gotten online or on the radio and really badmouthing NASCAR and MIS for the Martin crash. MIS has been open over 40 years and this is the first time something like this has happened. It was a fluke accident. But to hear some people talk, you'd think MIS is the most dangerous track on the circuit and they're terrible for allowing such danger to happen. What's going to happen with another fluke accident happens at Charlotte or Atlanta were pit road has no outside wall? It's impossible to predict every scenario that could possibly happen.
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To be quite honest , the crash looked a lot worse than it was .That is what made it sensational. I have heard speed estimates from 30 to 50 mph. We have all seen horrible crashes at many times that speed and have been shocked to see the drivers walk away. I too expect to see changes made in the garage area entrance and hope that it doesn't happen again , but that car is built like a tank.
 
I cant draw it on my droid, but I would take the part that Martin hit about 10 feet toward the garage area. That way the only way to enter coming from Turn 4 would be with a U turn, and it would be almost impossible to hang it like Martin did.

But without knowing the landscape behind the wall it is impossible to know the options.
I really don't wont to test Teds ideas. He could be right but I don't know. I thinking the drivers cocoon could be penetrated by a sharp edge with enough force(speed).

You can 99 percent safe, but it isn't guaranteed. Every racer knows this, and they know their risk takers. The safety of pit crew members is the biggest risk imo.
With the COT I would insure a driver before I would an over the wall pit crew member.
It will never be fail safe, as long as there is an entrance from the track.

We know drivers and crew members accept the risk, the fans should too. Racing is dangerous if that is to much to accept find a new hobby,
 
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VaDirt said:
And the cars will go to and come back from the garage how? And what about the team that's pitted in that first spot after the opening? Doesn't seem that simple to me.
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Good question so let's have a look. Now, my eyes tell me that the opening in the pit road wall will fit more than one car thru at a time so I don't think 3 barrels will make getting back to the garage impossible. The back end of that pit stall extends about 4.5 to maybe 5 feet back past the wall so if we take 1.5 inches from each of the other 42 pit boxes, we may just have ourselves a solution.

Edit: I just noticed that there are only 36 pit stalls in front of Kahne's pits box so we may have to take 2.0 inches from each of those 36.
 

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