Said vs. Biffle

BobbyFord said:
Boris Said is a dick and doesn't belong in the Cup Series...Period.
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How's he a dick? You seem to always jump on around on who can do what and say what I don't honestly get it. Would you rather a guy handle stuff with cars like Carl and Kyle do? That always can take out people who's not involved in the disagreement.
 
What's the history between these two drivers? I'd guess it goes back further than what happened yesterday for Boris to be as pissed as he was. I don't remember them getting into it in the past but my memory is not what it used to be.

Whatever it was it's entertaining none the less. It's fun to see these guys bump chests. Although in this case that couldn't happen unless The Biff was on a stool. Next time they need not to be a couple of posers. Get out from behind you team Greg. Boris, take the helmet off!
 
Greg Biffle will be on Race Hub at 7pm.

Press release from Speed: "Boris Said Can Find Biffle on NASCAR Race Hub Tuesday Night."
 
Clutch said:
This definitely constitutes a penalty.....

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I don't see anything in that video that should result in anything. I'd be more curious to see what happened earlier.

If anything, NASCAR should be paying these two for the publicity.
 
robbybee said:
You neglected to mention Happy Harvick... ;)
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That's cause he's not a Harvick fan haha. I mentioned drivers he likes who handle stuff with wrecking people on the track. Harvick does it also and I don't really approve of that honestly as it could always take out innocent people and plus I don't want anyone getting hurt.

But of course I remembered Carl and Kyle are winners and high and points so they can do what ever they want even if its risking peoples life.
 
Blaze88 said:
How's he a dick? You seem to always jump on around on who can do what and say what I don't honestly get it. Would you rather a guy handle stuff with cars like Carl and Kyle do? That always can take out people who's not involved in the disagreement.
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You may want to check the title of this thread; it has absolutely nothing to do with Carl or Kyle :owquitit:
The reason that I said Boris is a dick is because, from the video that I watched, he clearly wrecked Ragan. Ragan was wide and loose off of the turn, gathered it up and said turned right across the back of the 6 and turned him into the fence. Said had been a mid-pack car all day. What was he trying to prove by being so aggressive? What was he hoping for; 20th position?
You may also want to check Boris' NASCAR stats, including his Truck Series career and you'll see why I say that Boris does not belong in a Cup Series racecar.
If Boris is so awesome on a road course why did 21 Cup drivers whip his ass Sunday?
 
BobbyFord said:
Ragan was wide and loose off of the turn, gathered it up..
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I have to call foul on that, because David never said anything about getting loose. "I thought I was clear.....Boris could have given a little".

Dave messed up and Boris over reacted because he felt Ragan was rough on him all day.
 
FenderBumper said:
I have to call foul on that, because David never said anything about getting loose. "I thought I was clear.....Boris could have given a little".

Dave messed up and Boris over reacted because he felt Ragan was rough on him all day.
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I saw it as David had little forward bite coming off the corner and Boris ran him over.
 
BobbyFord said:
I saw it as David had little forward bite coming off the corner and Boris ran him over.
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You need to watch it again. I wasn't going to really blame anyone until I rewatched it several times, Regan was driving like a rookie is the nice way to put it. Regan kept going left in the corner and Boris was trying to hold his line, he couldn't let Regan push him in the grass or he would have nailed the same wall Regan did. Regan should have eased up, Boris had no other option.
 
chromehorn said:
Boris had no other option.
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I agree with the rest, but not that. First, Robbie Gordon isn't even close to Said. Ragan was 6 inches from being clear, so all Said had to do was crack the throttle and fall in behind. THEN give him a bump in the next turn. Instead, Said makes a HARD right and turns him into the wall. It's just wrong.
 
chromehorn said:
You need to watch it again. I wasn't going to really blame anyone until I rewatched it several times, Regan was driving like a rookie is the nice way to put it. Regan kept going left in the corner and Boris was trying to hold his line, he couldn't let Regan push him in the grass or he would have nailed the same wall Regan did. Regan should have eased up, Boris had no other option.
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I disagree. Where should David have eased up; he was ahead of Boris?
 
FenderBumper said:
I agree with the rest, but not that. First, Robbie Gordon isn't even close to Said. Ragan was 6 inches from being clear, so all Said had to do was crack the throttle and fall in behind. THEN give him a bump in the next turn. Instead, Said makes a HARD right and turns him into the wall. It's just wrong.
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Watch it again right when they are coming out of the turn when Regan is moving over, right when the camera starts zooming in on them. He had Reutimann then Robby lining up right behind him they started moving to the right about the time Regan is spinning. Boris couldn't "crack the throttle and fall behind" they were going way too fast for that to work like you say. I'm not trying to be a dick but pay close attention where everyone is right when the camera starts zooming in on the pack. Someone was going to get screwed out of that deal becasue of Regan regardless of the outcome that happened.
 
BobbyFord said:
You may want to check the title of this thread; it has absolutely nothing to do with Carl or Kyle :owquitit:
The reason that I said Boris is a dick is because, from the video that I watched, he clearly wrecked Ragan. Ragan was wide and loose off of the turn, gathered it up and said turned right across the back of the 6 and turned him into the fence. Said had been a mid-pack car all day. What was he trying to prove by being so aggressive? What was he hoping for; 20th position?
You may also want to check Boris' NASCAR stats, including his Truck Series career and you'll see why I say that Boris does not belong in a Cup Series racecar.
If Boris is so awesome on a road course why did 21 Cup drivers whip his ass Sunday?
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Alright if Boris is a dick for wrecking someone is Kyle or Carl? It don't matter if the threads about them you take up for them and act like they are good guys when they do some of the worst crap in Nascar. Carl wrecked Brad at Atlanta back what last year? Was Carl a dick for that? Kyle wrecked Brad to win a race? Yeah it was for a win but was Kyle a dick for that? Doesn't matter what position its for wrecking someone is wrecking someone.
 
Blaze88 said:
Alright if Boris is a dick for wrecking someone is Kyle or Carl? It don't matter if the threads about them you take up for them and act like they are good guys when they do some of the worst crap in Nascar. Carl wrecked Brad at Atlanta back what last year? Was Carl a dick for that? Kyle wrecked Brad to win a race? Yeah it was for a win but was Kyle a dick for that? Doesn't matter what position its for wrecking someone is wrecking someone.
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:owquitit: This is not a Carl/Kyle thread :owquitit:
 
BobbyFord said:
I disagree. Where should David have eased up; he was ahead of Boris?
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I watched the other angle from the left, 3:19 mark on the link below, and THAT does look like what you are saying but then it looks more like Regan was blocking and Boris was getting into him at the same time. I see where you are coming from on that angle but I still think Boris didn't have much of an option, I think Robby would have nailed him.

Watched it a few more times from that angel, yea, I think your right, Boris got him good. I don't care, I like the way he races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3WjLJpmXZY
 
Blaze88 said:
I love how people avoid questions when they know they are wrong.

Final point if Boris is a dick so is Carl or Kyle :)
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Not a Carl and Kyle thread. Can't we have one damn thread where Kyle isn't brought up and bashed by somebody for ****s sake?
 
chromehorn said:
Not a Carl and Kyle thread. Can't we have one damn thread where Kyle isn't brought up and bashed by somebody for ****s sake?
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If he hadn't called Boris a dick then I wouldn't have to call out drivers he likes. I just always laugh when someone's favorite drivers does what he calls another driver out on. Its kinda funny to be honest. Kinda like the other day when you say Joey never takes the blame for anything or puts it on someone else most of the time.
 
Blaze88 said:
If he hadn't called Boris a dick then I wouldn't have to call out drivers he likes. I just always laugh when someone's favorite drivers does what he calls another driver out on. Its kinda funny to be honest. Kinda like the other day when you say Joey never takes the blame for anything or puts it on someone else most of the time.
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No, it's nothing like that at all blockhead, that was a Joey thread hence the Joey bashing comment. Go start a Carl and Kyle are Dicks thread if you want to talk about their packages.
 
chromehorn said:
No, it's nothing like that at all blockhead, that was a Joey thread hence the Joey bashing comment. Go start a Carl and Kyle are Dicks thread if you want to talk about their packages.
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No I'm saying you saying that is you not seeing your own driver does that. Everyone's driver is perfect and does no wrong here it seems but when another person does yet the same thing its bad or wrong. I'm tired that crap around here and other forums. Only a few people would call there driver out on something dumb. When my favorite do something ill call it out. Heck during race threads a lot when Jr is doing good I always ask how he'll mess it up. All I'm saying if you gonna call another driver for his BS be ready to call your own driver for it or be ready to have someone else do it.
 
Blaze88 said:
No I'm saying you saying that is you not seeing your own driver does that. Everyone's driver is perfect and does no wrong here it seems but when another person does yet the same thing its bad or wrong. I'm tired that crap around here and other forums. Only a few people would call there driver out on something dumb. When my favorite do something ill call it out. Heck during race threads a lot when Jr is doing good I always ask how he'll mess it up. All I'm saying if you gonna call another driver for his BS be ready to call your own driver for it or be ready to have someone else do it.
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Stop it.
 
chromehorn said:
Stop it.
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Cause you know I'm right? I hardly see anyone call there driver out for stupid crap here cept for them two tony fans. That's why I think they are good members because they are not bias and blind to there drivers own crap like most people are around here.
 
chromehorn said:
I watched the other angle from the left, 3:19 mark on the link below, and THAT does look like what you are saying but then it looks more like Regan was blocking and Boris was getting into him at the same time. I see where you are coming from on that angle but I still think Boris didn't have much of an option, I think Robby would have nailed him.

Watched it a few more times from that angel, yea, I think your right, Boris got him good. I don't care, I like the way he races.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3WjLJpmXZY
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How can you watch that video and still think that cracking the throttle would cause Robbie, who is 2 1/2 cars lengths back, to plow into Boris?

No way. Robbie is experienced, and even a first timer in a race car could handle that.
 
Blaze88 said:
I love how people avoid questions when they know they are wrong.

Final point if Boris is a dick so is Carl or Kyle :)
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Dude, try to stay on topic.
If you forgot to take your A.D.D. medication today, it's o.k. to take it now but DO NOT double up on the dosage as we all know that can be dangerous. Just continue tomorrow with your usual dosing regimen.
Again, try to stay on topic.
 
Do any of you see the resemblance between the Said/Biffle incident and the coming together of Ky Busch & Marcose Ambrose coming off of turn 1 on the 2nd to last lap? They both look pretty similar to me. Difference is, Kyle backed off, still got into Ambrose, and let Marcos gather himself and go on his way. Kyle knew he had been beaten through that corner. He could have just as easily hooked him and sent him into that first guardrail on the left of them. And, Kyle was coming onto the track after running partially in the grass, like Said did.

They were racing for the win, too. Just my perspective on it.
 
So, according to Boris Said, the fued is over. He was on NASCAR Now earlier. Here it is in case you missed it. Sorry for poor audio/picture and the phone call. lol.

 
Completely different circumstances, nascage. Kyle was way off the track and trying to get back on. That's a clear take only what you are given situation, which Kyle and Marcos handled perfectly.
 
FenderBumper said:
Completely different circumstances, nascage. Kyle was way off the track and trying to get back on. That's a clear take only what you are given situation, which Kyle and Marcos handled perfectly.
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I don't know. Like I said - my perspective. Some people here are saying Boris was off track and simply trying to get back on the track, thus getting into Ragan.
 
I missed NASCAR Hub on SPEED. I'm curious to hear what Biffle had to say.
 
FenderBumper said:
How can you watch that video and still think that cracking the throttle would cause Robbie, who is 2 1/2 cars lengths back, to plow into Boris?

No way. Robbie is experienced, and even a first timer in a race car could handle that.
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Maybe, but it's still Regans fault for tryingt to take out Said by smashing his quarter panel into Saids front bumper that just happened to move slightly to the right, due to a rut in the pavement, at the moment of impact. Completely accidental on Saids part. I'm sticking with that, that's the way it happened.
 
nascage said:
So, according to Boris Said, the fued is over. He was on NASCAR Now earlier. Here it is in case you missed it. Sorry for poor audio/picture and the phone call. lol...
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The reason Boris says the fued is over is because he's afraid he's not going to get another "road course ringer" ride in the Cup series again since he got clowned by Burton and other Cup Series regulars.
Simply put, Boris Said does not belong in a Cup Series racecar. He has ONE Truck Series win and ONE Nationwide Series win, which in my book does not qualify you to even climb into a Cup Series racecar.
The last win on a road course by a "road course ringer" was Mark Donahue in around '73 at Riverside (I apologize to the late, great Mark Donahue for using Boris Said's name in the same thread). Boris Said will NEVER be NEAR the driver that Donahue was.
 
Funny how Said "Couldn't lift fast enough" but he sure turned right pretty quick. Nobody works the pedals as well as Said, and he always has his left foot on the brake pedal. His split second judgement was the thing that made the accident much worse.

Just for the record, Ragan is wrong for turning into him. I don't believe the spotter called him clear, because he moves over way too early in the turn exit.
 
BobbyFord said:
The reason Boris says the fued is over is because he's afraid he's not going to get another "road course ringer" ride in the Cup series again since he got clowned by Burton and other Cup Series regulars.
Simply put, Boris Said does not belong in a Cup Series racecar. He has ONE Truck Series win and ONE Nationwide Series win, which in my book does not qualify you to even climb into a Cup Series racecar.
The last win on a road course by a "road course ringer" was Mark Donahue in around '73 at Riverside (I apologize to the late, great Mark Donahue for using Boris Said's name in the same thread). Boris Said will NEVER be NEAR the driver that Donahue was.
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How dare you say such nonsense. Just for that your not getting your Said Head afro for Christmas.
 
BobbyFord said:
The reason Boris says the fued is over is because he's afraid he's not going to get another "road course ringer" ride in the Cup series again since he got clowned by Burton and other Cup Series regulars.
Simply put, Boris Said does not belong in a Cup Series racecar. He has ONE Truck Series win and ONE Nationwide Series win, which in my book does not qualify you to even climb into a Cup Series racecar.
The last win on a road course by a "road course ringer" was Mark Donahue in around '73 at Riverside (I apologize to the late, great Mark Donahue for using Boris Said's name in the same thread). Boris Said will NEVER be NEAR the driver that Donahue was.
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We all know it ain't over.

I like Boris. But it was interesting to hear Jeff Burton's take on it, saying more or less that Said is causing too many wrecks on the track. And if I'm not mistaken, Burton just joined Twitter nation on Friday.

And, oh yeah, Jim Rome is calling Boris "Chuck Boris". lol.
 
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