Should Danica be parked

Should Danica be parked

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • No

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • Total voters
    33
I don't know about his tire going down o_O

I just watched the last 12 laps, and it's obvious that Danica runs into Sam BEFORE Sam runs her up to the wall. Elliot is pushing Sam on the low side, while Danica is running on her own at the top. She comes down, maybe to side draft, but she runs right against Elliot and runs into Sam's right rear. Sam gets loose and runs up the track and almost collects Danica. I have a feeling Sam didn't realize that he had been hit and thought he had a flat, or that wrecked front end on Elliots car caused Sam to get loose. Up until then, it's just racing.

Danica tracks him down and runs him hard into the wall. 100% Danica. Sam did nothing wrong. I think Danica was mad because Sam ran her up the track a little 10 laps earlier and cost her 5 or 6 positions with 12 to go, but it wasn't a cheap move by Sam. Just racing.



Also, Sam was able to drive his car back to pit road. If it had been the vicious hit that some of you are suggesting, that 12 car would have been on the hook.

It was a very hard hit. Sam came very close to hitting the wall head on and was lucky to get it turned back down slightly before hitting. Danica rammed him hard. There was nothing subtle about it.
 
It will be interesting to see how this all works out. That fact that she drives for Joonyer will have no bearing on the outcome of their investigation, I am sure...;)
 
It will be interesting to see how this all works out. That fact that she drives for Joonyer will have no bearing on the outcome of their investigation, I am sure...;)

I think it's over and done. NASCAR wont do anything. The real question is what will they do if Sam retaliates? Maybe Danica will wreck Sam again so nascar can put them both on probation.
 
What Danica did is at least borderline, I don’t know if it deserves a suspension I can see reasons to and not to suspend it is open to interpretation.



But that was a lot more than just a rub on a cool down lap. She also has no business snarking another driver’s ability, she has done little in a big money stock car ride and she finds a wreck as good as Hornish if not better. He has struggled in Stock Cars but there is no comparison among the two,



She was probably in culture shock with the realization that she could see the lead car on the last lap. Finishing in the top 12 would have been the highlight of her nationwide career. Joe Nemechek has a more legitimate reason to be angry, and more stock car driving ability than the two combined, he just isn’t such a drama queen.
 
What Danica did is at least borderline, I don’t know if it deserves a suspension I can see reasons to and not to suspend it is open to interpretation.



But that was a lot more than just a rub on a cool down lap. She also has no business snarking another driver’s ability, she has done little in a big money stock car ride and she finds a wreck as good as Hornish if not better. He has struggled in Stock Cars but there is no comparison among the two,



She was probably in culture shock with the realization that she could see the lead car on the last lap. Finishing in the top 12 would have been the highlight of her nationwide career. Joe Nemechek has a more legitimate reason to be angry, and more stock car driving ability than the two combined, he just isn’t such a drama queen.

Spoke like a true Danica hater.:D
 
What Danica did is at least borderline, I don’t know if it deserves a suspension I can see reasons to and not to suspend it is open to interpretation.



But that was a lot more than just a rub on a cool down lap. She also has no business snarking another driver’s ability, she has done little in a big money stock car ride and she finds a wreck as good as Hornish if not better. He has struggled in Stock Cars but there is no comparison among the two,



She was probably in culture shock with the realization that she could see the lead car on the last lap. Finishing in the top 12 would have been the highlight of her nationwide career. Joe Nemechek has a more legitimate reason to be angry, and more stock car driving ability than the two combined, he just isn’t such a drama queen.

Joe got screwed by Hornish and his spotter, but he's professional enough to handle it face to face. No Matt, that doesn't mean fighting Sam.
 
You can bet that tapes are being reviewed and officials are being interviewed...
THAT investigation
I wasn't trying to be a smart a$$ sorry if you took it wrong. I just hadn't heard anything about it being investigated. I thought it was over since no driver was called to the hauler.
 
I wasn't trying to be a smart a$$ sorry if you took it wrong. I just hadn't heard anything about it being investigated. I thought it was over since no driver was called to the hauler.

By investigation I really meant review. But a review is an investigation (isn't it?) and if the JRM driver and the Penske driver were found to have done nothing wrong, the investigation/review would be terminated and no further action would be deemed appropriate - or something like that! :D :D
 
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nascar/...-hornish-wreck-nascar-talladega-superspeedway

Danica Patrick to hear from NASCAR about wrecking Sam Hornish Jr., won’t be penalized - NASCAR

TALLADEGA, Ala.—Danica Patrick will hear from NASCAR officials about sending Sam Hornish Jr. into the wall following the Nationwide Series race Saturday at Talladega Superspeedway, but she likely won’t be penalized, NASCAR officials said Sunday morning.

The two drivers, whose rivalry goes back to their days racing go-karts and extended to the IndyCar Series, likely will both be talked to by NASCAR officials prior to practice next Friday at Darlington Raceway for what happened after the Aaron’s 312 on Saturday.

Hornish forced Patrick into the wall as they raced for 12th coming to the finish line. Well after they took the checkered flag, Patrick tapped the rear of Hornish’s car, and he slid into the wall.

“We talked a little bit to the folks last night and we’ll talk to them again at Darlington,” NASCAR Vice President of Competition Robin Pemberton said Sunday morning. “But there’s not a history (in NASCAR) there. There’s not a lot of things.

“They both beat and banged on each other a little bit after the start/finish line. It didn’t go unnoticed and we’ll talk to them but we don’t see anything (else).”

Pemberton indicated that Patrick’s actions did not rise to the level of Kyle Busch retaliating against Ron Hornaday in a Truck Series race last November at Texas Motor Speedway, where Busch was suspended for the Nationwide and Cup events later that weekend.

Pemberton declined to say what specifically was different—“(Busch’s incident) is in the past,” he said—but said the situations were not comparable.

“Those two don’t have a history,” Pemberton said of Hornish and Patrick. “Not that that weighs into it, but when you look at it, it’s not been their typical way. It was just a long, hard race and they both made mistakes after the race.

“You can’t compare that to Kyle Busch. Every situation is different. … There’s not a blanket answer to any of this stuff.”

Hornish made the transition from IndyCar to full-time NASCAR racing in 2008, while Patrick is trying to make the same transition this season. In IndyCar racing, they never had a public feud but there had been a sense that they were not close friends.

Driving for Penske Racing, Hornish ran partial NASCAR schedules before jumping into Cup full time in 2008. He spent three years there until running in Nationwide the last two seasons. Patrick has run two partial Nationwide schedules and is doing a full Nationwide schedule this year for JR Motorsports along with a partial Cup schedule in cars prepared by Stewart-Haas Racing.

They have not had any run-ins in stock cars until Saturday.

Hornish said he could not avoid pinching Patrick toward the wall at the end of the race because he had a tire going flat.

“I’m mad to get wrecked after the race. … I couldn’t turn and couldn’t keep it down (off Patrick),” Hornish said. “And then the 7 (of Patrick) decided to turn me after the race was over into the wall.”

After the race, Hornish confronted Patrick to describe what happened on the last lap and it didn’t appear to be all that cordial of a conversation.

“I don’t know (if it was personal),” Patrick said. “He apologized, so I suppose it wasn’t, but I’m not really sure what happened.

“I’ve known Sam for a really long time and I know what to be ready for around him and I don’t know what happened.”

Both Patrick and Hornish can expect to be warned to not repeat what happened Saturday.

“It just happened to be one of those situations—those are two good competitors (and) they’re clean competitors,” Pemberton said. “We’ll just make sure it doesn’t go any further.”
 
By investigation I really meant review. But a review is an investigation (isn't it?) and if the JRM driver and the Penske driver were found to have done nothing wrong, the investigation/review would be terminated and no further action would be deemed appropriate - or something like that! :D :D
I have a feeling they will quietly keep an eye on Danica. If she continues to throw fits they will react.
If Nascar claims what happened at Texas with Kyle had nothing to do with his past behavior I say :bsflag:
 
“They both beat and banged on each other a little bit after the start/finish line. It didn’t go unnoticed and we’ll talk to them but we don’t see anything (else).”

Pemberton is high again.

Pemberton declined to say what specifically was different—“(Busch’s incident) is in the past,” he said—but said the situations were not comparable.
It would have been real easy for Pembeton to repeat what they said about Kyle wrecking under yellow, but those boys don't like being questioned or held to any kind of consistancy, so it's best to keep the record blank. "We'll know it when we see it" is the ONLY standard they are interested in.

More nascar fluff.
 
She stayed true to her word...After getting drop-kicked a few times last season, she put the word out..."play nice or else"...Well now we see the "or else"...She has to stand her ground or the other drivers will eat her up...It's a shame none of the other chevy drivers realized just how GOOD a car she had all day...She could push anyone right to the front, and even when she was alone in the pack the car could make up spots with ease...Very FRAGILE male egos these NASCRAP drivers have............
 
Yes, if you want to be consistant, but this is NASCAR...
 
Maybe the "boys" wont screw with her now. Go Danica
You are right on Bucky . "Boys Have At It " is exactly meant for the situation . Someone bumps you , bump em back . Danica especially needs to establish herself out there .I'd like to see her dump a couple of others this year ,in order to get a little more elbow room next year. That said , the Danica bashers need to have some fun too.;)
 
No one is bashing anybody. People are answering a pole question by stating their opinions. If some want to give her a pass because she's Danica Patrick, that's cool, but not everyone is willing to do that.

If Nascar comes down on her, will they be blamed for being sexist Danica bashers as well?
 
No one is bashing anybody. People are answering a pole question by stating their opinions. If some want to give her a pass because she's Danica Patrick, that's cool, but not everyone is willing to do that.

If Nascar comes down on her, will they be blamed for being sexist Danica bashers as well?
Give her a pass because she's Danica Patrick?! The only reason this is being discussed is because she's Danica Patrick. If some no-name did this we may not have even seen a replay!
 
Right now, they are showing the replays from both instances on Wind Tunnel. Seeing both, even though there is a precedent, Kyle was parked, and for a better reason. If you go back and watch that one, Kyle just laid into the back bumper and didn't let up until the job was done. Danica, on the other hand, took a single bump.
 
Give her a pass because she's Danica Patrick?! The only reason this is being discussed is because she's Danica Patrick. If some no-name did this we may not have even seen a replay!

Perhaps but she's made the choice to put herself in the public eye. Any number of no name drivers would take the sponsorship and media attention she gets. Even if it meant being srutinized more closely than most others.

She's being discussed because she wants to be discussed.
 
Perhaps but she's made the choice to put herself in the public eye. Any number of no name drivers would take the sponsorship and media attention she gets. Even if it meant being srutinized more closely than most others.

She's being discussed because she wants to be discussed.

I say we bitch slap her and send her on her way back to open wheel.
 
From a pure business perspective this may have been a good move for Danica.


After all she isn't accomplishing much more than a Loy Allen performance during the actual Nascar races. Without the results working her issues flamboyantly after the race is a good diversion, and camera time. A godaddy moment.



But it is a harsh reality for the chivalry fantasy of her fanboys. A combination of a bad arttitude with a poor display of talent will only fuel their poor Danica is being persecuted complex.


But that will not change the realities they would distort. She isn't being treated like Kyle Busch 2011, or subjected to that level of outrage.


She simply is not a hungry driver with the fire to do the basics . With the available resources she could run in the East series, the Trucks, and ARCA during the Nationwide off weeks, and she definitely needs the seat time.
If she wants to match her talent to the opportunity provided she needs a major improvement.


Earn the respect, like go fast and win. The Hornish deal doesn't prove much talent.


Those are hard facts, but a truth that none of the defenders can change.
The other drivers not working with her says it all.
The respect that can't be purchased, hasn't been earned yet.
 
I will say no just because she is hot. and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
From a pure business perspective this may have been a good move for Danica.


After all she isn't accomplishing much more than a Loy Allen performance during the actual Nascar races. Without the results working her issues flamboyantly after the race is a good diversion, and camera time. A godaddy moment.



But it is a harsh reality for the chivalry fantasy of her fanboys. A combination of a bad arttitude with a poor display of talent will only fuel their poor Danica is being persecuted complex.


But that will not change the realities they would distort. She isn't being treated like Kyle Busch 2011, or subjected to that level of outrage.


She simply is not a hungry driver with the fire to do the basics . With the available resources she could run in the East series, the Trucks, and ARCA during the Nationwide off weeks, and she definitely needs the seat time.
If she wants to match her talent to the opportunity provided she needs a major improvement.


Earn the respect, like go fast and win. The Hornish deal doesn't prove much talent.


Those are hard facts, but a truth that none of the defenders can change.
The other drivers not working with her says it all.
The respect that can't be purchased, hasn't been earned yet.


....the real fact is she is 11th in points and moving up.
 
I watched the replay a few times, it's kinda hard to tell if he had a tire going down or not. I'd like to think if he did, then Danica should've been able to see it from her viewpoint. She did not & just assumed Sam was driving too aggressively which is why the after race move she made happened. Both drivers were pretty good afterwards with Danica acting like she didn't realize anything had happened & Sam simply saying why would he drive himself into the wall. In the end, who knows because although these two are both experienced drivers in quality rides we all know neither one of them will be in contention for the championship at seasons end...
 
Danica called Sam after the race and apologized. Obviously there was no way she could have possibly known that Sam had a tire down. Also, I was listening to her scanner and the people that said they'd work with her at the end all bailed which obviously added to her frustration. It's too bad for them because she had a fast car and has shown promise at RP tracks.
 
It's too bad for them because she had a fast car and has shown promise at RP tracks.

Yeah, because finishing 38th and completing just 138 laps in her only other RP Cup race is awesome.

I think you have fallen in love and lost all objectivity on the Danica issue. :D
 
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