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wi_racefan said:
It's just hard to believe that Gene would keep throwing his money at him. He claims he let Kurt go once it appeared that he wasn't capable of winning a championship. Granted we're talking about 2 different salary ranges here but still
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If Gene was gonna make any movement to take Cole out of the 41 it would have been Kyle Busch. Gene and Joe are best friends and Gene has enough money to throw at that car as long as he wants. Chump change for him
 
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AuzGrams said:
MTJ to the 88 in 2024 (baseless rumor) for a final season, then hands the car over to Josh Berry.
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I don’t really cheer for Truex right now. But he’s someone who I could probably root for. Surely if it’s his final season.
 
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For the people who are saying AJ doesn't want to do Cup he's essentially from another era. He was in Cup when it was 3 day weekends+testing midweek on a regular basis. Those days are over. 2 day race weekends and a few hours in the sim midweek in North Carolina is a lot more reasonable.
 
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Speedbowl14 said:
For the people who are saying AJ doesn't want to do Cup he's essentially from another era. He was in Cup when it was 3 day weekends+testing midweek on a regular basis. Those days are over. 2 day race weekends and a few hours in the sim midweek in North Carolina is a lot more reasonable.
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We're not the guys you have to convince. Talk to the Dinger.
 
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Speedbowl14 said:
For the people who are saying AJ doesn't want to do Cup he's essentially from another era. He was in Cup when it was 3 day weekends+testing midweek on a regular basis. Those days are over. 2 day race weekends and a few hours in the sim midweek in North Carolina is a lot more reasonable.
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There is still a lot of media and sponsor obligations that a Cup Series has to do compared to an Xfinity driver.
 
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Speedbowl14 said:
For the people who are saying AJ doesn't want to do Cup he's essentially from another era. He was in Cup when it was 3 day weekends+testing midweek on a regular basis. Those days are over. 2 day race weekends and a few hours in the sim midweek in North Carolina is a lot more reasonable.
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It's not the people saying it, it was A.J. himself. He has since changed his mind but from what he has said he isn't jumping up and down about it.;)
 
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wi_racefan said:
Is there? I mean if the team owner is essentially the sponsor I think he could negotiate very few sponsor obligations
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One of the reasons to be a sponsor is so you can have a driver do PR gigs for you. That still applies even when the sponsor is the owner; maybe even more so.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
One of the reasons to be a sponsor is so you can have a driver do PR gigs for you. That still applies even when the sponsor is the owner; maybe even more so.
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Yes and no. Sponsors put their names on the cars for different reasons. Some are huge race fans and love seeing their name on the car, some want drivers to help sell product, some want an avenue to entertain employees and clients, some are nothing more than a B2B. That's why some sponsors care about performance and some don't. To some the biggest thing is they want to be able to take clients to a race to experience everything behind the wall and honestly could care less who's in the car and where it finishes.
 
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wi_racefan said:
Yes and no. Sponsors put their names on the cars for different reasons. Some are huge race fans and love seeing their name on the car, some want drivers to help sell product, some want an avenue to entertain employees and clients, some are nothing more than a B2B. That's why some sponsors care about performance and some don't. To some the biggest thing is they want to be able to take clients to a race to experience everything behind the wall and honestly could care less who's in the car and where it finishes.
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did you read where Charlie said ONE OF THE REASONS?
 
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That's cool it seems like Connor is a heck of a talent. Unfortunately I don't think we'll get to see showcased it in that equipment.
 
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Jordan Bianchi (The Athletic) reports that "The Dinger" will be full-time in the Kaulig #16 Cup car for 2023. To be announced Wednesday at the Kaulig Racing Fan Day celebration. No word yet on plans for the Xfinity Series #16 that A.J. drives full-time currently...

 
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Jordan Bianchi (The Athletic) reports that "The Dinger" will be full-time in the Kaulig #16 Cup car for 2023. To be announced Wednesday at the Kaulig Racing Fan Day celebration. No word yet on plans for the Xfinity Series #16 that A.J. drives full-time currently...

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Immediate playoff threat considering his road course prowess. I could see him making a run to round of 8 potentially. Pretty cool to see a guy come back full-time to the Cup Series after hitting 40.
 
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I mean, its the 08 for Bobby Dotter more than likely which I think is a good spot for some limited runs as it is a "Pay to play" car.

Maybe getting her out of the truck series and getting into an Xfinity car can help her progress. If she gets a few runs, cool let her get her feet wet and see how she acclimates.

It won't be popular move, but her sponsors and Ford probably want this more than anything else. Good luck to her, I know her truck performance has left a lot to be desired, but some limited runs won't hurt to see if she can truly progress.
 
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The competition level between Trucks and Xfinity is about the same due to the business model. I’d argue Truck fields have more depth than Xfinity fields.

Only difference is less noobs in Xfinity.
 
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Excited and big if true when announced if it’s AJ to the 16 full time.

Should be interesting to see if that car & team can step up the results with a veteran that is good enough to get it into the playoffs and/or win a road course race or a few.

The 16 needs to be better on ovals, but AJ has also decent on them as this year has gone on.
 
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wi_racefan said:
Yes and no. Sponsors put their names on the cars for different reasons. Some are huge race fans and love seeing their name on the car, some want drivers to help sell product, some want an avenue to entertain employees and clients, some are nothing more than a B2B. That's why some sponsors care about performance and some don't. To some the biggest thing is they want to be able to take clients to a race to experience everything behind the wall and honestly could care less who's in the car and where it finishes.
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I know this opens me to a lot of mockery, but could someone explain what "B2B" is?
 
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Hikaru Kitsune said:
I know this opens me to a lot of mockery, but could someone explain what "B2B" is?
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Business to business, as compared with retailer to consumer. The sponsor is trying to reach corporate-level customers, not you and me. The guys that buy suites and invite purchasing agents from potential business partners. I sat in a luxury suite at Martinsville once when Sprint was after our company's cell phone business. I didn't have that authority anyway but the guy in our company who did have the say-so wasn't interested in racing.
 
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