In this case, I think Penske supplies better cars that what Harrison is doing. The guy they kicked out of the car was better.Wonder when people will realize that the car is the issue and that changing the driver constantly won’t help.
No argument there. I'm glad the Wood brothers are still in the series. I think Burton brought along a pretty good reliable sponsor similar to Menard and the team is also more importantly on Penske life support. I think if Penske pulled out, it would be hard for them to stay in the series. So it is what it is, one can't expect much.In this case, I think Penske supplies better cars that what Harrison is doing. The guy they kicked out of the car was better.
Roger went for dollars over quality, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it biting him in the ass, and I say that as a long time Penske admirer. When billionaire car owners go for the sponsorship dollars over the better driver, I'm hoping they finish dead last every week.Penske didn't care if he was moot or not. He had plans to put another driver in the 21.
Yeah I'm sure Roger is all torn up about it. Cup champions and all.Roger went for dollars over quality, and I've thoroughly enjoyed it biting him in the ass, and I say that as a long time Penske admirer. When billionaire car owners go for the sponsorship dollars over the better driver, I'm hoping they finish dead last every week.
Roger is a competitor and he likes to win, but sometimes he lets the deal get in the way. I'm quite sure he doesn't enjoy watching the 21 suck wind every week while his good buddy Rick has four cars in the top ten, three with wins already.Yeah I'm sure Roger is all torn up about it. Cup champions and all.
Of course you are the one who tries to turn a good deed into negative nonsense. Surely you aren't that naive to think that if Penske wanted to turn the 21 into a top contender he couldn't do that lol. Some people.Roger is a competitor and he likes to win, but sometimes he lets the deal get in the way. I'm quite sure he doesn't enjoy watching the 21 suck wind every week while his good buddy Rick has four cars in the top ten, three with wins already.
This one baffles me. So much uncertainty around that team.Well maybe they aren't joining JGR
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A Charter is only good if you are wanting to compete, or sell out. If you aren't doing either who cares.This one baffles me. So much uncertainty around that team.
To be honest until the charter agreement is reached I find it hard to believe anyone would get signed with teams not knowing their income for 2025
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Interesting that there’s no comment from the Geschickters in the release. Seems to indicate the team will at least soldier on with or without them, though.Well maybe they aren't joining JGR
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What's he waiting for then?Of course you are the one who tries to turn a good deed into negative nonsense. Surely you aren't that naive to think that if Penske wanted to turn the 21 into a top contender he couldn't do that lol. Some people.
Its a Ford problem, not a Penske driver problemWhat's he waiting for then?
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But cashing the big check from Dex was more important.Just to clarify......... Wood Brothers Racing is a 4th Team Penske car.
Assembled, prepared and maintained at the Penske shop.
I assure you that Mr. Penske and Edsel Ford want the 21 to succeed.
Sure seems like it. Another tell will be, if one was needed, is if last place Burton is back in the 21 next year. In the three years Burton has been in the 21, it's 27th, 31st, and currently 32nd. Worse every year so far.Is Dex tied to young Burton in some way?
He brought that sponsorship over from JGR, a ride he probably wouldn't have gotten without their money either. I don't know what the connection is, but they have been FIRMLY behind him for quite some time.Is Dex tied to young Burton in some way?
He brought that sponsorship over from JGR, a ride he probably wouldn't have gotten without their money either. I don't know what the connection is, but they have been FIRMLY behind him for quite some time.
They have to do their due diligence, I suppose. That said, there are three teams in NASCAR that have four charters. Hendrick, Gibbs, and SHR. What do they gain by selling a charter or two, aside from money? They have two drivers in playoff contention, and anything can happen at the superspeedways.
Losing Busch and Smithfield was a huge blow, it is what it is. I think they're waiting to land a big sponsor or something, and it isn't farfetched with the way Gragson has performed.
The biggest team that is at least listening to offers to sell charters is Stewart-Haas Racing. Currently, a four-car team, the organization has not renewed its Ford deal yet for next year, and it has sent prospective buyers information on what it would take to purchase a charter.
There are several teams that want charters to expand. Those include Trackouse Racing, Legacy Motor Club, 23XI Racing and possibly Front Row Motorsports.
Without knowing what will happen to the organization, there will be questions. Briscoe and Berry would be the most likely ones to stay if the team downsizes, and Gragson has surged over the last month. Preece is in the last year of his SHR deal.
At least in 2020 he won 4 Xfinity races. He has done NOTHING since. As much crap as we give Deegan for being pushed while being mediocre, I think she would perform equal or better in the 21.He brought that sponsorship over from JGR, a ride he probably wouldn't have gotten without their money either. I don't know what the connection is, but they have been FIRMLY behind him for quite some time.
She would not.At least in 2020 he won 4 Xfinity races. He has done NOTHING since. As much crap as we give Deegan for being pushed while being mediocre, I think she would perform equal or better in the 21.
If you can't win in a JGR Xfinity car, you can't win ANYWHERE. That's a real compliment to JGR, but it's also a warning to everyone else that success there doesn't automatically mean success anywhere else. Take Brandon Jones for example. He was punted out of a spot in the final four by Ty Gibbs. At JRM, a quality team, he couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.At least in 2020 he won 4 Xfinity races. He has done NOTHING since. As much crap as we give Deegan for being pushed while being mediocre, I think she would perform equal or better in the 21.
Heard Briscoe to the 21 could be a thing and something is being announced tomorrow to do with a Ford driver.
Insider info?Just heard Herbst to 23XI too.
I like it. Perfect fit IMO.Heard Briscoe to the 21 could be a thing and something is being announced tomorrow to do with a Ford driver.
He got it folksHeard Briscoe to the 21 could be a thing and something is being announced tomorrow to do with a Ford driver.
Wowza. Real good ride that just opened