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cheesepuffs said:
I don't dislike you, but I said something like this to you recently and I'll say it again because this is why people here find you abrasive: What you call exuberant is perceived by many others as over the top and preachy. Nothing wrong with being a big fan, but when you constantly mention your "TRD powered Toyota Camrys!", it gets very redundant and makes you look like a pawn for a corporation that doesn't know you exist. I'm not trying to be rude but it's how it looks. It seems unhealthy and obsessed.
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I'm having fun man, and I love my TRD powered Toyota Camrys for sure. I love this sport too. I like this board. I spend time here because on occasion, it educates me, makes me laugh, and reminds me of why I follow the sport the way I do. Unfortunately, there are those times when I am reminded that people get very brave behind a keyboard, and somehow take joy in typing crap to gain the respect of others who share the same joy. Everybody has an "Ignore" button. Seems to be that some could spare themselves all of the agony my posts create by using it.
 
ToyYoda said:
Not really sure how you'd do it though. Even if you move the race up, you're pre-empting something else that was supposed to be there. In the NFL's case, the networks probably don't mind as the game will likely draw much higher ratings than whatever else they had scheduled in that time slot. With NASCAR, that probably wouldn't be the situation.
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If Nascar wanted to bump the start, they would only be cutting short another Nascar program.
 
Revman said:
I'm having fun man, and I love my TRD powered Toyota Camrys for sure. I love this sport too. I like this board. I spend time here because on occasion, it educates me, makes me laugh, and reminds me of why I follow the sport the way I do. Unfortunately, there are those times when I am reminded that people get very brave behind a keyboard, and somehow take joy in typing crap to gain the respect of others who share the same joy. Everybody has an "Ignore" button. Seems to be that some could spare themselves all of the agony my posts create by using it.
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I have asked many times, "where is the ignore button?"
 
Team Penske said:
Thanks. I was thinking it was for the basement dwellers only. :sarcasm:
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You have to wonder....some of those guys with the ability to mute that which they so detest, but they cannot get themselves to do it. Must be the grease from the chicken nuggets. Finger slides off.
 
I imagine NBC would be fine with adjusting start times if needed. They pushed races up before during the original NBC/TNT contract. They even pushed a Chase race up back in 2004 to the very beginning of the TV window.

I suspect this is an ESPN thing that NASCAR just continues. ESPN had great coverage but the amount of damns they gave were less than zero. They routinely joined race broadcasts when the races were already in progress, moved races from ABC to ESPN2 or ESPN to ESPNews, moved the final laps of races to ESPN2 or ESPN Classic, cut out of broadcasts the second the checkered flag waved and aired pre-race coverage on ESPN2, if at all. There isn't a chance ESPN would've allowed a race to be pushed up.

Now, we have Fox and NBC who have 30-60 minutes of pre-race coverage (depending on the race) on network TV (when the race is on network) on top of 60-120 minutes of pre-race coverage on cable networks. When the races are on FS1 and NBCSN, there's basically two hours of pre-race. I highly doubt either network would oppose pushing a race up.

Hell, Fox pre-empted some of their most popular shows on a Monday night to air Daytona one year.
 
I used to be an avid baseball watcher, particularly of the New York Yankees, who have their own tv network. They had a 30-minute pregame, the 3-3.5 hour game(usually, this was pre 2010), and then a 30-minute postgame. That was it. And they were literally dedicated to a single team. There is absolutely no reason for there to be hours upon hours of coverage for a race. It's too much. 30 minute pre-race for those who are inclined, start the race 5 minutes into the official event coverage window, and then 30-minutes of postrace when the checkered flag falls. I don't care what Jimmie Johnson eats for dinner, or what school his kid goes to, I want to know what he plans to do to win the race, what he thinks of the track, his car, etc, that's it. To quote Lewis Black, "That's a story. I'm not interested in a story. I'm interested in the game... Stories are bull****! If I wanted a story, I'd turn to the Lifetime network".
 
MarcWiley said:
I used to be an avid baseball watcher, particularly of the New York Yankees, who have their own tv network. They had a 30-minute pregame, the 3-3.5 hour game(usually, this was pre 2010), and then a 30-minute postgame. That was it. And they were literally dedicated to a single team. There is absolutely no reason for there to be hours upon hours of coverage for a race. It's too much. 30 minute pre-race for those who are inclined, start the race 5 minutes into the official event coverage window, and then 30-minutes of postrace when the checkered flag falls. I don't care what Jimmie Johnson eats for dinner, or what school his kid goes to, I want to know what he plans to do to win the race, what he thinks of the track, his car, etc, that's it. To quote Lewis Black, "That's a story. I'm not interested in a story. I'm interested in the game... Stories are bull****! If I wanted a story, I'd turn to the Lifetime network".
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TNT used to have 90 minutes of pre-race coverage and I thoroughly enjoyed it. They had segments focusing on the history of the sport and stuff like that.
 
MarcWiley said:
I used to be an avid baseball watcher, particularly of the New York Yankees, who have their own tv network. They had a 30-minute pregame, the 3-3.5 hour game(usually, this was pre 2010), and then a 30-minute postgame. That was it. And they were literally dedicated to a single team. There is absolutely no reason for there to be hours upon hours of coverage for a race. It's too much. 30 minute pre-race for those who are inclined, start the race 5 minutes into the official event coverage window, and then 30-minutes of postrace when the checkered flag falls. I don't care what Jimmie Johnson eats for dinner, or what school his kid goes to, I want to know what he plans to do to win the race, what he thinks of the track, his car, etc, that's it. To quote Lewis Black, "That's a story. I'm not interested in a story. I'm interested in the game... Stories are bull****! If I wanted a story, I'd turn to the Lifetime network".
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I don't like all the talking heads either, and I agree regarding starting the race 5 minutes into the scheduled coverage window.

Until that happens, do what I do: Ignore all that stuff. Turn the tube on 10 minutes after the scheduled broadcast start time. That should put you down somewhere between the anthem and starting the engines.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I don't like all the talking heads either, and I agree regarding starting the race 5 minutes into the scheduled coverage window.

Until that happens, do what I do: Ignore all that stuff. Turn the tube on 10 minutes after the scheduled broadcast start time. That should put you down somewhere between the anthem and starting the engines.
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Oh that's exactly what I do. I'll check twitter for the scheduled green flag time and set my DVR for 10 minutes before that, or if I'm staying home that day, I'll start watching about 45 minutes in so I can skip through commercials.
 
MarcWiley said:
I used to be an avid baseball watcher, particularly of the New York Yankees, who have their own tv network. They had a 30-minute pregame, the 3-3.5 hour game(usually, this was pre 2010), and then a 30-minute postgame. That was it. And they were literally dedicated to a single team. There is absolutely no reason for there to be hours upon hours of coverage for a race. It's too much. 30 minute pre-race for those who are inclined, start the race 5 minutes into the official event coverage window, and then 30-minutes of postrace when the checkered flag falls. I don't care what Jimmie Johnson eats for dinner, or what school his kid goes to, I want to know what he plans to do to win the race, what he thinks of the track, his car, etc, that's it. To quote Lewis Black, "That's a story. I'm not interested in a story. I'm interested in the game... Stories are bull****! If I wanted a story, I'd turn to the Lifetime network".
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As long as you've got control of a remote you've got the choice of when you tune in or out. It's no secret when the race begins each and every week. Maybe I'm on my own island but I like the pre and post race shows. Leave us have what we want and tune in five minutes before the race if you choose. It's all good and can work for all of us.
 
Speaking of start times I noticed while updating my calendar that all of the early start times are 1-2 hours later than last year. The west coast and night race start times didn't change.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
As long as you've got control of a remote you've got the choice of when you tune in or out. It's no secret when the race begins each and every week. Maybe I'm on my own island but I like the pre and post race shows. Leave us have what we want and tune in five minutes before the race if you choose. It's all good and can work for all of us.
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I'll grant you that, hands down. Back to the original point of this thread, perhaps if they know weather is coming in late in the scheduled event time, they could use that hour of pre-race as a way to move the race up, rather than have it end early due to rain, or get pushed to the next day because they couldn't get to halfway. I realize there are a million situations and circumstances that would mean it wouldn't always make the most sense, but to have it on the table as an option doesn't seem like it's asking too much.
 
NASCAR has a new policy where, with 24 hours notice, it could start a race one hour earlier than the listed start time in the event of a forecast of inclement weather. NASCAR previously would not move the start time because of logistical concerns amid prerace activities held by the tracks and teams as well as concerns ticketholders would not get notified. NASCAR Executive VP Steve O'Donnell said: "We worked with the tracks to say what is the best way and the best notification [period]." Marcus Smith, CEO of track operating company Speedway Motorsports: "Any weather forecast in 24 hours, it's hard to really know so [we'd have to be] very convinced. I'm just glad we haven't had to worry about that this year."
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