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My vote is for the 43 crew chief, or Jones himself, WHOMEVER made the decision to pit while firmly holding down second place. He was fast, and tire wear had already proven to not be a big issue on speed.
 
#8

Just change the damn tire it wasn’t even halfway yet, and you had plenty of time to react after knowing there was an issue unlike a loose wheel etc.

Honorable mention Blaney speeding after
having a top caliber recovery from earlier in the race
 
hmmm298 said:
#8

Just change the damn tire it wasn’t even halfway yet, and you had plenty of time to react after knowing there was an issue unlike a loose wheel etc.

Honorable mention Blaney speeding after
having a top caliber recovery from earlier in the race
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But you gotta give KDB style points for backing it up all the way to pit lane.
 
Tyler Reddick.

Not only did his fraudulent pit strategy that won him Stage #1 ruin his day, but then he caused a giant wreck that gave his teammate a chance to lose the race. He basically ensured that 23XI didn’t go to victory lane today singlehandedly.
 
WhiningSmoke said:
Tyler Reddick.

Not only did his fraudulent pit strategy that won him Stage #1 ruin his day, but then he caused a giant wreck that gave his teammate a chance to lose the race. He basically ensured that 23XI didn’t go to victory lane today singlehandedly.
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Yes. He is possibly a Chevy spy and saboteur sent over to TRD by The Felon himself. His reward for doing so is likely in the form of a tennis shoe.

Being only a B+ spy means he accidentally backed into winning a couple of races despite the objective.
 
WhiningSmoke said:
Tyler Reddick.

Not only did his fraudulent pit strategy that won him Stage #1 ruin his day, but then he caused a giant wreck that gave his teammate a chance to lose the race. He basically ensured that 23XI didn’t go to victory lane today singlehandedly.
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In both the Xfinity and Cup race the track in turn 1 and 2 was a great big issue. Snapping loose all of sudden in several areas. Look at Larsons turn around, he was in the same tracks as an earlier skid. More in Xfinity than Cup but, still to much.

My bonehead: Leaving the old traction crap on the track caused a lot of damage and chaos in 1 and 2.
 
sdj said:
In both the Xfinity and Cup race the track in turn 1 and 2 was a great big issue. Snapping loose all of sudden in several areas. Look at Larsons turn around, he was in the same tracks as an earlier skid. More in Xfinity than Cup but, still to much.

My bonehead: Leaving the old traction crap on the track caused a lot of damage and chaos in 1 and 2.
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How would they remove the old pj1?
 
There are plenty of candidates this weekend, but I'm going with Ty Gibbs. His boneheaded decision to stay in the middle lane exiting pit road easily could've taken out a playoff contender who happens to be his teammate. As a matter of fact, it did affect Hamlin's chances of winning the race.

Erik Jones crew chief gets a shout out as well. Jones had a race winning car, only to get taken out after bad strategy had him mired in the back of the field.
 
Daytripper said:
They should grind the whole track, might be an improvement!
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Eh, I dunno about that. The 2005 Coca Cola 600 took place after they diamond grinded the track. This led to a lot of tire blow-outs and 22 cautions in a 600 mile race. Diamond grinding also created the worst Formula 1 race at Indianapolis in the same year.
 
so it happens so dam often.that bells dumdass pit crew doesnt even make it on there anymore.
well i guess i well vote for them.
i just hope tony stewart will call bell soon.:dual9mm::owquitit::boxing:
 
The children Fort Worth cry over being neglected and overlooked by the racing community last week. The boneheaded gerbils never mentioned their majestic skyline once. Hopefully they will overcome the pain and grow up to live as productivly as the citizens in Dallas live.

Say a prayer for Fort Wort tonight.
 
Greg said:
The children Fort Worth cry over being neglected and overlooked by the racing community last week. The boneheaded gerbils never mentioned their majestic skyline once. Hopefully they will overcome the pain and grow up to live as productivly as the citizens in Dallas live.

Say a prayer for Fort Wort tonight.
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I've asked this bunch who missed the rapture to lend a hand to the children of Ft. Worth brother Greg. I know their ju ju is weak, but it is the best I can do on short notice.

 
OldTimer said:
They do? Can you drive the car back to the pits after blowing one following a spin out? Without losing a lap?
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Sure can unless you wipe out two or three and then it doesn't matter which wheel they have on there they will lose a lap or two.
 
OldTimer said:
They do? Can you drive the car back to the pits after blowing one following a spin out? Without losing a lap?
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That has nothing to do with the wheels and everything to do with the aluminum rub-blocks on the undercarriage of the car. The blocks protrude below the floor act as physical ride height limiters. That's why cars get stuck when they have flat tires now.
 
Efisher131 said:
They work great if you tighten the lugnut
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Except they often don't when trying to rip off 9 second put stops. I told everyone from day one that they were a non-solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first place, and now we have a FAR greater chance of having the kind of tragic incident that everyone was afraid of in the first place. And despite the people who gave me a load of crap about it, here we are almost two years into it, and we are STILL having wheels flying off cars, something that was about as common as a rainbow colored unicorn with five lug wheels. NASCAR managed to eliminate something they CLAIM to always be concerned about, the margin of safety.
 
Ummm, I think you facts are a little off on the amount of loose wheels in the last few months.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
The first two loose wheels in months and the usual suspects are grabbing their pitchforks and lighting their torches again.
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They won't shut up for infinity lol. Teams were down to putting 2 or three lug nuts on so they had to have people watching them with huge fines and on and on. Now if the wheel is loose it comes off pretty quickly and there is no question that they screwed up. If you have flatted so many tires you can't move, you deserve a two or three lap penalty. Of course ANY changes rattles some cages. They yearn for 60's technology..truck suspension, solid rear ends and carburetors.
 
Formerjackman said:
Is there ONE SINGLE THING inaccurate in my post?
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Nope, especially the part where you acknowledge where the fault lies:
Formerjackman said:
Except they often don't (get the nut tight) when trying to rip off 9 second put stops.
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Multiple other international racing series run single-nut without issue, yet somehow a limited number of NASCAR crews can't figure how to get them tight.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Nope, especially the part where you acknowledge where the fault lies:

Multiple other international racing series run single-nut without issue, yet somehow a limited number of NASCAR crews can't figure how to get them tight.
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Don't expect an answer, it ruins his entire argument.
 
StandOnIt said:
They won't shut up for infinity lol. Teams were down to putting 2 or three lug nuts on so they had to have people watching them with huge fines and on and on. Now if the wheel is loose it comes off pretty quickly and there is no question that they screwed up. If you have flatted so many tires you can't move, you deserve a two or three lap penalty. Of course ANY changes rattles some cages. They yearn for 60's technology..truck suspension, solid rear ends and carburetors.
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I'm not concerned about the penalties, or the ruined races. I'm concerned about the odds of a wheel flying off and hurting and killing someone, and the chance of that happening has increased exponentially with the single lug. You can fine people, you can suspend people you can do whatever you want, the fact remains that wheels are coming off FAR more often than they EVER did with five lugs, regardless of how few nuts they put on in the past. The margin for error, the factor where the driver KNOWS something is wrong before the wheel leaves the car is largely gone. All so we can look cool and be like everyone else, because there is absolutely no other logical reason to change something that has worked for decades. I have no issue with changing something if it IMPROVES the sport or for safety reasons, I'm against it when it's basically a pointless exercise. Carburetors were mentioned. Ok, so we made the change. How is the sport even ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT better off for it? If it's so freaking great, why are Xfinity cars STILL using carbs? Why are Xfinity and Trucks still using five lugs? It's all just another way for NASCAR to deflect criticism that the Cup cars are outdated. You have to do a LOT better than that to convince me a change is warranted.
 
Spotter22 said:
Don't expect an answer, it ruins his entire argument.
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I've watched wheels fly off other cars in other series with single lugs for years and years. It's just that with fewer and shorter races and the lack of audience, it happens less often, when it does, it often goes unnoticed. How many people are watching the Rolex 24 at 3 AM like I am?
 
Formerjackman said:
Jayski always posts them, but there doesn't seem to be an easily searchable way to find them all quickly. I tried.
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Working from the penalty reports,

Feb 27 California - #19 (on track)
Mar 12 Phoenix 1 - #10 (on track)
Apr 16 Martinville 1 - #78 (on track)
May 29 Charlotte 1 - #34 (on track)
Jun 25 Nashville - #45 (in pits)
Sep 16 Bristol 2 - #78 (in pits) (second time this year)
Sep 24 Texas 2 - #3 (on track), #51 (on track)

Jun 25 to Sep 16 looks like almost 3 months to me, by the way.
 
Formerjackman said:
I'm not concerned about the penalties, or the ruined races. I'm concerned about the odds of a wheel flying off and hurting and killing someone, and the chance of that happening has increased exponentially with the single lug. You can fine people, you can suspend people you can do whatever you want, the fact remains that wheels are coming off FAR more often than they EVER did with five lugs, regardless of how few nuts they put on in the past. The margin for error, the factor where the driver KNOWS something is wrong before the wheel leaves the car is largely gone. All so we can look cool and be like everyone else, because there is absolutely no other logical reason to change something that has worked for decades. I have no issue with changing something if it IMPROVES the sport or for safety reasons, I'm against it when it's basically a pointless exercise. Carburetors were mentioned. Ok, so we made the change. How is the sport even ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT better off for it? If it's so freaking great, why are Xfinity cars STILL using carbs? Why are Xfinity and Trucks still using five lugs? It's all just another way for NASCAR to deflect criticism that the Cup cars are outdated. You have to do a LOT better than that to convince me a change is warranted.
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I'm way smarter than that.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Working from the penalty reports,

Feb 27 California - #19 (on track)
Mar 12 Phoenix 1 - #10 (on track)
Apr 16 Martinville 1 - #78 (on track)
May 29 Charlotte 1 - #34 (on track)
Jun 25 Nashville - #45 (in pits)
Sep 16 Bristol 2 - #78 (in pits) (second time this year)
Sep 24 Texas 2 - #3 (on track), #51 (on track)

Jun 25 to Sep 16 looks like almost 3 months to me, by the way.
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Oh, and yes, I checked the Clash, Duels, and All-Stars.
 
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