The Darlington race thread.

I realize that KyBu has ruined a couple of races for the #5 this year but I don't believe that Kane has a legitimate beef with this one. Those two sure do seem to find one another a lot this year ;)
 
If it had been anybody else they probably would have both wrecked, but Kasey passed him clean, and I would have liked to see Kyle fall back and then make a clean run, instead of what he did. I like Kyle, but why most don't like him is because of no class stunts like this. Just glad he did burn up his right rear and didn't win the thing. It could have been worse.
 
eh, Busch probably thought he could make it stick. He backed off when it didn't and Kahne got loose. Lets not act like he shoved him out of the way ala Earnhardt style.
 
Nah lazy..don't put words in my mouth I said no class. And if it had been a few drivers out there besides Kasey, Clint Keven, Tony to name a few, instead of staying up close to the wall after being dumped, the would have cut back into him...and that would be another story. As it was Kasey kept his cool and finished the race and even moved up a spot.
 
"I don't know if he touched me or not..." Sounds to me like Kasey over-drove the corner, also.
I don't think so. Kasey had the position. 1 and 2 had been one groove pretty much all night long. 3 and 4 was where the passing went on.
 
Kyle didn't even try to turn left on exit, he just ran it straight into Kahne. Then he failed to turn down when he got loose. He already wrecked Kahne twice this year and should have raced him carefully.

Same old Kyle.
 
I don't think so. Kasey had the position. 1 and 2 had been one groove pretty much all night long. 3 and 4 was where the passing went on.

It's what the driver does after he gets loose that tells the story. Kyle had more than enough time to turn down and take his own bullet, but he decded to run up on Kahnes QP and risk wrecking him yet again.

Kyle's comments after Talladega were that Kahne jumped in front of him, and maybe he shouldn't have made that move. Hell Kyle, you didn't even have to crack the throttle at Dega.

If you watch the video, Kahne does crowd Kyle on exit twice before making the pass. No foul, but it obviously pissed Kyle off enough to dive bomb him and see what happens. I'm sure Kyle will start blaming it on the tire going down.
 
I'm not clear on exactly what was done by Busch to be the cause of Kahne losing control of his car...seriously:confused:

Edit: was there contact between the two that I didn't see?
 
I'm not clear on exactly what was done by Busch to be the cause of Kahne losing control of his car...seriously:confused:

Edit: was there contact between the two that I didn't see?

the evidence (replays) doesn't seem to be conclusive

so basically it comes down to Kyle fans not thinking he did anything wrong while those who have a dislike for Kyle figure, because no one else was near the 5 car, it must have been Kyle's fault
 
This crash is just like all the other crashes that we see, we all have a different view of what we think happened and of course we all would like to think that our view is the correct one.:D But the important thing is that Kasey and Kyle were racing hard and putting on a good show for all of us to watch. Which is a lot more then some of the other drivers were doing. I can only speak for myself, but I would rather see two drivers drive on the edge a little and battle it out for the lead and put on a good show then to see them follow each other around as if they had a bubble around their cars and they couldn't get close to each other. I came, I saw, and I liked, and now I'm ready for Charlotte.:punkrocke
 
yeah don't forget he ran from the microphone, he knew what he did
Out of all the fans on here you are the one that I wouldn't have thought would have to draw for such a small straw to try and make a point. I really doubt that you would want to talk into a mic either if you had just had a chance to have a perfect weekend and led the whole race and then lost because of a tire failure. I know I wouldn't have been in a very good mood.:)
 
Out of all the fans on here you are the one that I wouldn't have thought would have to draw for such a small straw to try and make a point. I really doubt that you would want to talk into a mic either if you had just had a chance to have a perfect weekend and led the whole race and then lost because of a tire failure. I know I wouldn't have been in a very good mood.

I'll start another post that will help to clarify it here in a minute. I don't expect to change anybodies mind that have the blinders on though.
 
I'll start another post that will help to clarify it here in a minute. I don't expect to change anybodies mind that have the blinders on though.
I look forward to reading you new post. I'm not above changing my opinion if I get some clear evidence...that is why I always wear clear plexiglass blinders.:D
 
My opinion is that anybody that doesn't see the contact doesn't want to see the contact but the contact was there and as I say it is my opinion. Kybu hit him and took him out for the third time this year which is the way he works when he thinks a lesser driver has enough gall to try to pass him for the win, my opinion.
 
In the end, there's only two people who really know what happened, and they, too, will have stories. And no, neither of those two people are here on R-F. ;)
 
My opinion is that anybody that doesn't see the contact doesn't want to see the contact but the contact was there and as I say it is my opinion. Kybu hit him and took him out for the third time this year which is the way he works when he thinks a lesser driver has enough gall to try to pass him for the win, my opinion.
Usually I agree with your posts this time I think your wrong I watched the replay and saw Kane's car on pit road . I saw nothing on that car that looked like Bush hit him. Just for the record I am not a bush fan but this time I think he is getting blamed for something he dident do.
 
In the end, there's only two people who really know what happened, and they, too, will have stories. And no, neither of those two people are here on R-F. ;)

Do you expect those two to have the same stories?
 
There's alway three side to every story the left side the right side and the truth. No matter what angle that you look at it someone is always wrong. It would be nice if some of these drivers manned up and said hey I was wrong and screwed up.
 
In the end, there's only two people who really know what happened, and they, too, will have stories. And no, neither of those two people are here on R-F. ;)
Actually there might only be one who really knows...because Kasey already said he didn't know if he was hit. But, you are right they are not here.;):)
 
Usually I agree with your posts this time I think your wrong I watched the replay and saw Kane's car on pit road . I saw nothing on that car that looked like Bush hit him. Just for the record I am not a bush fan but this time I think he is getting blamed for something he dident do.
That's why I for one always us forum etiquette and put "in my opinion" when it is my opinion and its controversial, so the ones that claim that their way is the only way don't include me in their ranks as I respect everybody's right to have their own opinion as I respect yours.
 
There's alway three side to every story the left side the right side and the truth. No matter what angle that you look at it someone is always wrong. It would be nice if some of these drivers manned up and said hey I was wrong and screwed up.

I'd expect cameras to be the great equalizer. Either he bumped him or he didn't.
 
So if they're not going to agree, it's highly unlikely that we all will ;)
But my point here is, of all the people who might think they know what really happened, not a single one is here. And it seems that many of those here that think they know what really happened, they're basically stating it as fact.
 


It was slight contact.


you have to love that idiot Waltrips comments that Kasey drove it in real hard. If you judge his speed off of the 20 rather than the 18, it's clear he didn't get in there any harder than Kenseth.

I still say Kyle was careless. He got real pissed at Kenseth for 'racing him too hard' toward the end of the NW race. He said he'll remember that for the next race, or for the entire year. Be ready for yet another KB meltdown.
 
to me it is not a matter of hitting him or not. Why did Kahne catch him in the first place? He had been tra la ling out in front for the whole race, he lost the handle on it, Kyle Bush knew he was loosing the handle. What he did after he knew that is the problem I have. It was premeditated IMO, he got caught and passed, but instead of falling back into the line everybody was running, he goes down runs an insane line, hits his splitter, slides up the track out of control and affects the clear lead car. AND if he didn't do that, by the next corner he wouldn't have been able to do anything to Kahne because he had the clear clean line. Take all of it out of it, just two drivers racing..not all of the emotional my driver, my team crap and I see why Kyle earns all the Boos he gets.
 
I'm all for flipping a coin and then moving on to the Allstar race in Charlotte.
 
This is a repost.
The only way KyBu will leave Kasey alone is if Kasey races him hard enough and roughs him up every time he gets around him. Bump and run is not in the KyBu playbook but crashem and trashem is. Every driver out there knows how to wreck another driver without touching them using air pressure or a very light tap at the exact right time but most of them very rarely use it except KyBu seems to use it at least once in every race. This Is My Personal Opinion so there are no links, thank you.
 
the evidence (replays) doesn't seem to be conclusive

so basically it comes down to Kyle fans not thinking he did anything wrong while those who have a dislike for Kyle figure, because no one else was near the 5 car, it must have been Kyle's fault

I'm a Kyle fan, but I think there was contact. :oops:

Of course, I also thinks it's getting made into a bigger deal than it is just because it involved Kyle. If it were almost anyone else it would be just another "racing incident."
 
I am not a Kyle hater, I listen to his in car when I get the chance because he really gives the crew good information to keep his car handling right. But dang, he doesn't switch gears when it goes south very well. Instead of falling into second and hanging on to it when his car goes south, and probably finishing second or third, he gets involved in a caution and doesn't get a better finish. Took himself out at Talledega..what in the hell are you pushing for when you are in line four rows back?
 
I'm a Kyle fan, but I think there was contact. :oops:

Of course, I also thinks it's getting made into a bigger deal than it is just because it's the 3rd time Kyle wrecked Kahne. If it were almost anyone else who knew how to control their car it would be just another "racing incident."

:fixed:

I had to fix it because it was so obviously broken!
 
I'm a Kyle fan, but I think there was contact. :oops:

Of course, I also thinks it's getting made into a bigger deal than it is just because it involved Kyle. If it were almost anyone else it would be just another "racing incident."

I think that because it was Busch and Kahne - again - may be fanning the flames.
 
There's alway three side to every story the left side the right side and the truth. No matter what angle that you look at it someone is always wrong. It would be nice if some of these drivers manned up and said hey I was wrong and screwed up.
Do you mean like Kyle did last week?LOL
 
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