I've never made an effort. What little I know about the series, I've picked up in this forum. I don't even know how WEC races are presented: TV, stream, web, subscription, some other method? It's moot; between the top three NASCAR series, IndyCar, and IMSA, I'm following enough series already.Does anyone here even watch it.
The series is so bad it takes a very determined effort to tune in. Hopefully the Hyper cars will make things better, but I doubt it.I've never made an effort.
That's the thing. It gets very little coverage and it's horrible anyway. They spend more time covering the cars sitting still in the pits than they do the actual racing. They almost completely ignore the prototypes except as an after thought, so it may as well be a GT race. They spend way too much time on pre-race nonsense and way too much time on post race nonsense. The coverage alone is bad enough to run people off. It's horrible, but then again, so is the series.What little I know about the series, I've picked up in this forum.
Motor Trend TV, but again, they only cover the first and last hour. Maybe the series really isn't that bad, but the TV coverage is horrendous. This is the way the FIA has always treated sportscar racing, which is why they really shouldn't have a hand in it.I don't even know how WEC races are presented: TV, stream, web, subscription, some other method?
Life is too short to spend on something that doesn't interest you. I don't want to talk you out of watching, but it's not very good.It's moot; between the top three NASCAR series, IndyCar, and IMSA, I'm following enough series already.
I concur with your assessment of all three. The Deathbedders scream about NASCAR dying. It's healthy, just returning to the pre-Boom levels of interest. I cannot wait to see what Roger does but I doubt it will be detrimental.Nascar will still be healthy, and IndyCar is ready to blast off with Penske running things. Those two look really solid.
IMSA looks like it's going to be really good again, but I think a lot of teams are waiting tp see what DPI/2 is going to look like before they commit.
More like bedwetters!The Deathbedders scream about NASCAR dying.
I don't think so. Roger has won so much that he wouldn't risk a conflict of interest. I think it will all be above board. You have to look at what he did with Detriot to see what's possible for the series with the right kind of management and promotion. Be happy. The Hulmans weren't taking the sport anywhere, but I think Roger will. This was a lot better than selling the property to real estate developers. It's a lot better than ISC getting it and making the 500 a stock car race.I cannot wait to see what Roger does but I doubt it will be detrimental
It's still a world championship, even if it's just a pathetic excuse for one. The GT racing is spectacular, but I don't really care about that. The prototype division is more like the walking dead, and everyone is in holding until the Hyper cars come out. Maybe that will be good, but I don't think so. Those will have trouble fighting off the P2 cars unless they cripple them with BOP.As to WEC, I'll take your word. It doesn't sound like it's worth investigating Motor Trend TV.
Remember, Aston Martin will be in F1 next year. They will probably be stretching resources thin, so I think the need to focus on F1 and the GT programme they have. The HyperCar would have been great, but I'd rather Aston focus on the big investment they have in F1 for 2021 onwards, hopefully.Everything’s Great
Are you shtting me? I thought Mega GT was going to be the best series ever, or at least that's what they told us. Who needs Aston anyway? We've got plenty of privateers to run those $35 million dollar cars.Everything’s Great
The financial viability of this for Aston was questionable before they even got the Stroll investment and subsequently made plans for F1. Now they are blaming convergence...embarrassing, IMO. There had been absolutely no indication of any progress on the race version of the Valkyrie while we’ve already gotten numerous updates from Toyota and Glickenhaus. I wonder how long Stroll putting up money to have his kid in a factory F1 seat is going to last. My guess is not very.Remember, Aston Martin will be in F1 next year. They will probably be stretching resources thin, so I think the need to focus on F1 and the GT programme they have. The HyperCar would have been great, but I'd rather Aston focus on the big investment they have in F1 for 2021 onwards, hopefully.
They pulled out of DTM as well, its not great, but Aston Martin as financially deep to really fund all of these projects.
“We entered Aston Martin Valkyrie in WEC and at Le Mans with the understanding that we would be competing with similar machinery and like-minded manufacturers. The situation has changed and it makes sense for us to pause and reconsider our options.”The financial viability of this for Aston was questionable before they even got the Stroll investment and subsequently made plans for F1. Now they are blaming convergence...embarrassing, IMO. There had been absolutely no indication of any progress on the race version of the Valkyrie while we’ve already gotten numerous updates from Toyota and Glickenhaus. I wonder how long Stroll putting up money to have his kid in a factory F1 seat is going to last. My guess is not very.
Aston probably needs to consider how cheap a DPI project would be. I'm betting it comes out quite favorably compared to the $35 million hyper car.“We entered Aston Martin Valkyrie in WEC and at Le Mans with the understanding that we would be competing with similar machinery and like-minded manufacturers. The situation has changed and it makes sense for us to pause and reconsider our options.”
I think Aston might have gotten spooked by how unstable the whole scene looks right now. There's too much money at stake to be changing the rules on the run and having a different plan every other week.Don't blame the convergence that made this decision.
If that's the case, maybe they truly are pausing to reconsider a DPI project as an alternative.I personally think Aston just lacked funds altogether for the project.
I'm happy they were forced to finally do something. Even if it's wrong it's got to be better than what they have been doing. They could have certainly screwed it up much worse, but I think they are on the right track. The cars just have to make sense.This is the type of ignorance I do not care for with both IMSA and WEC hurting for competition in the DPi and LMP1 classes the ACO and FIA had to do what they did.
We're going to have to differ here. I'm just hoping we get one set of sensible prototype rules and a guaranteed period of rules stability. Right now I think DPI makes the most sense.Hopefully, Glickenhaus and Peugeot do commit to the HyperCar because of both decide the same decision then WEC with the upper echelon classes are screwed.
Today has been a busy day, I have been running around with things to do. If, I can watch it, I will. I watched the qualifying session yesterday.WEC COTA on Motortrend TV at 12:30. Does anyone care?
Bruhhhh...“Yeah, I mean we didn’t realize it was this weekend to be honest,” said track chairmain Bobby Epstein, “We were thinking about Formula 1 and even the World Challenge race coming up in March and completely forgot about WEC. I guess all the hoopla with LMDh made us forget they are still racing in their current state.”
Kind of like what the privateers have been living with the last two years.I mean the Toyotas had an arm tied behind their back during the race.
I have not read where Rebellion has any sort of racing plans, but I may have just missed it.It sounded as if Rebellion were leaving racing entirely, but interestingly enough they aim to remain in motorsport in some capacity.
I don't buy it that they want to remain privateers. If that's the case, why did they ever sign with Peugeot? It's not like they didn't know what they were getting into. Rebellion is a slick operation and they are no fools. If anything, maybe they signed the deal and changed their minds, but I believe they knew going in they would lose their privateer status and this is just an excuse.Some very interesting justifications in here as to why they are leaving top-flight prototype racing. Remaining a privateer effort is very important to them and that wasn't going to be the case with the Peugeot link-up.
For right now, P2 would make the most sense because they have already won that championship and can o it again while we are waiting to see how the convergence works out. Instead they are just out, and I personally believe it's because they are just fed up getting jacked around every race with BOP. Oh, sure they got a good BOP this time, probably right about the time they realized Rebellion was all they had to race Toyota.Many other series are easier on the budget as well.
Granted, it's a hell of a mess. Imaginehow crazy it would be to reschedule an event like Long beach with all the bureaucratic red tape.Considering the next season was supposed to start September 5 this is going to mess up schedules A LOT.
Honestly, Hyper just needs to go away. A series with $35 million cars would collapse under it's own weight anyway. Maybe the cars would be cool, but they simply don't make sense. Hypercar would also interfere with making LMDPI work. We need ONE world formula...and I don’t even want to think of the trickle-down effect on Hypercar regulations that were supposed to start then..
I had not considered that, but it would only be one time and the current championship is as good as over anyway. With the cancellations Rebellion simply won't have enough available points. That, and will they even come back at all? They are supposed to be done after LeMans, but if they are going by the calendar instead of the actual race day, they will be down the road before lemans happens.They still want to reschedule Spa at least too - can’t see them wanting to do Sebring in November considering their desire to have Le Mans as the season finale these days.
Wait, Is the convergence 2021 or 2022? If it's 2021 they need to get it together and nail the rules down. I have not seen a finished copy of the rules yet. All I see is the concept.Plus they’ll still be there in March.
LMDh is supposed to start with the 2021-2022 WEC and 2022 IMSA seasons. But there’s so much in flux right now those dates are hardly static. The World Motorsport Council approved convergence but IMSA and the ACO are still finalizing technical regulations. I agree they need to get it done soon and I’ve seen ORECA agrees - hopefully it’s all sorted out within the next week or two.Wait, Is the convergence 2021 or 2022? If it's 2021 they need to get it together and nail the rules down. I have not seen a finished copy of the rules yet. All I see is the concept.