THIS is SCAREY

Originally posted by smack500
http://www.comotionmakers.org/gunviolence.html

Each year, gun violence takes the lives of
over 30,000 Americans.

Every two years since 1988, more Americans have died from firearm injury than were killed in the entire 11 years of the war in Vietnam.

Injuries from gun violence are estimated to outnumber deaths three to one. That means that there are about 90,000 nonfatal gun injuries each year!  

On average, approximately 57% of annual firearm deaths are suicides, 40% are homicides, and 3% are unintentional shootings
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Well Smack, give up your gun and you'll be safe..............:rolleyes:

Whatever source of info told you that 90% of guns are abused was probably written by the Congresswoman from California that is against every single thing that the U.S. Constitution is about. I think that if we educated people about guns as much as we do on "How to be a gay couple and raise a child", or teaching kids in Jr. high schol on how to put on a condom, you would see the numbers go down drastically. And if you tighten the guns laws, that won't solve the problem either. Look at Washington, D.C. Its illegal to own, possess, or transport a firearm in the District. But yet, the rank as one of the highest murder rates in the country. Were those guns aquired legally? I doubt it.....Is taking a common man's weapon away from him the answer? Nope, we would become an anarchy. We need to educate people on gun safety and ownership and then let's see what happens.

Oh, and about the terrorist camp in Alabama? I really don't see that happening there........;)
 
They should stop selling smokes too then,How many people die a year from that?My home security system is Smith & Wesson,and will be until they come,and take them away,Which I hope they never do.If you want to stop killers,Kill a few more that do it.
 
Originally posted by fergy1370



Well Smack, give up your gun and you'll be safe..............:rolleyes:  

Whatever source of info told you that 90% of guns are abused was probably written by the Congresswoman from California that is against every single thing that the U.S. Constitution is about. I think that if we educated people about guns as much as we do on "How to be a gay couple and raise a child", or teaching kids in Jr. high schol on how to put on a condom, you would see the numbers go down drastically.  And if you tighten the guns laws, that won't solve the problem either. Look at Washington, D.C. Its illegal to own, possess, or transport a firearm in the District. But yet, the rank as one of the highest murder rates in the country. Were those guns aquired legally? I doubt it.....Is taking a common mans weapon away from him the answer? Nope, we would becaome an anarchy. We need to educate people on gun safety and ownership and then let's see what happens.

Oh, and about the terrorist camp in Alabama? I really don't see that happening there........;)
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thank you fergy. that was worded very nicely. i appreciate that. i was waiting for someone with some writing skills to make a nice point, i will go take a nap now:D
 
um both sites I posted are sponsored by our government so if you dont beleive them you have some issues with your own country
 
smack, I agree that most murders are caused by guns, legal or not.

Accidental deaths by firearms are also a problem... just check out the death of a 13 year old in Atlanta at a gun show recently for one.

On the other hand, how many die in traffic accidents caused by dui, etc.

I believe in gun control and my right to own a weapon. BUT I do NOT believe underage people should be allowed to have a gun. If one is not legally able to vote, it's not their right.

But overall, I agree with you and kids stay out of it, period lap3.

I could get a gun off the street for a small bag of mj, won't cuz I don't do drugs, and also who knows that that weapon won't blow up in your face and then you kill your damn self.
 
Originally posted by smack500
um both sites I posted are sponsored by our government so if you dont beleive them you have some issues with your own country
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Is that so, now?! Funny you should mention it, because I do have one or two problems with our country, and one of the biggest ones is people wanting to take away my constitutional rights. :)

More on that later, though. I'm avoiding qualifying news until tonight, so I'm outta here for now...
 
thats my point I agree makeing a gun law saying no one should have guns wont change anything but If it was posible to destroy all the guns on this earth right now and only keep the ones thats for military use and make sure there kept lokced away so they cant get on the streets it would stop alot of crimes murders and all and thats my opinion nothing to do with facts and yes I know its imposible
 
theres so many problems all over the earth some things will never be takin care of like freedom of speech on the net some people are tired of seeing porn on the net but they cant censor it because of that right and racist groups on the net recurit more then 1,000 people each year from the internet cant do nothing on that because of your right to freedom of speech everyone wants there cake and to eat it to Am I saying our rights should be takin away no but I dont think you can have your cake and eat it to to many people on this planet have problems and something has to be done DO I know what NO but yes and no awnsers is not cutting it flat out
 
i dont believe the government.
check this out

Lott's research shows that states with the largest increases in gun ownership also have the largest decreases in violent crime. And, it is high-crime, urban areas, and neighborhoods with large minority populations that experience the greatest reductions in violent crime when law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns.

Lott found "a strong negative relationship between the number of law-abiding citizens with permits and the crime rate--as more people obtain permits there is a greater decline in violent crime rates." Further, he found that the value of carry laws increases over time. "For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect the murder rate declines by 3%, rape by 2% and robberies by over 2%," Lott writes.

"Murder rates decline when either more women or more men carry concealed handguns, but the effect is especially pronounced for women," Lott notes. "An additional woman carrying a concealed handgun reduces the murder rate for women by about three to four times more than an additional man carrying a concealed handgun reduces the murder rate for men."

While right-to-carry laws lead to fewer people being murdered (Lott finds an equal deterrent effect for murders committed with and without guns), the increased presence of concealed handguns "does not raise the number of accidental deaths or suicides from handguns."

The benefits of concealed handguns are not limited to those who carry them. Others "get a 'free ride' from the crime fighting efforts of their fellow citizens," Lott finds. And the benefits are "not limited to people who share the characteristics of those who carry the guns." The most obvious example of what Lott calls this "halo" effect, is "the drop in murders of children following the adoption of nondiscretionary laws. Arming older people not only may provide direct protection to these children, but also causes criminals to leave the area."

How compelling is John Lott's message? How threatening is his research to those who would disarm the American people? He devotes an entire chapter of More Guns, Less Crime rebutting attacks leveled at his research and at him personally. He recalls how Susan Glick, of the anti-gun Violence Policy Center, publicly denounced his research as "flawed" without reading the first word of it.
 
Im tired of argueing seriously it doesnt matter the fact is the world would be alot better place without guns LOL would be a lot better place without humans
 
whats the next thing your gonna tell me alcohol and drugs cause more good then bad
 
theres alot of problems in this country judas everything doesnt have a yes or no awnser
 
Originally posted by smack500
whats the next thing your gonna tell me alcohol and drugs cause more good then bad
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Ignore that comment lol I ment "certain drugs"
 
Originally posted by smack500
yes but usa still has the most murders if you read the whole page they have more crimes over there compared to people in so much land of course we have so much people we have more totall crimes then them but compared there population to ours they have more totall crimes but even if you compare like they did 1,000 people over there to a 1,000 people over here if you read that we beat them in murders they beat us in tottal crime
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Why do states that enact "Right to Carry" laws see crime go down?:)
 
Tell ya what Smack. You go right on ahead and turn in all your guns. Then go find a nice sunny spot where you can feel good about yourself. Then, when some dope fiend comes along to mug you, don't look to me to blow his ass away for you.

There is a gun in this house. Hopefully, it will never be used on anything except snakes, which have no right to live.:p BUT God forbid should some less than honorable person have thoughts of entering this residence uninvited, anyone of you would be able to read your local newspaper in the hole where his guts used to be. Then you can call me a murderer.

Funny thing to me, so many anti-gun people are the first ones to cry out for vengeance once they or one of their own become a victim.
 
Look at the towns in the U S that require guns. There is a town in Ga. with no violent crimes, all the houses have some kind of firearm. Do you remember the Luby's shootout? You maybe to young. It was in Texas, and a crazy man with a gun went in shooting. He killed a bunch of people, but a woman with a consealed hand gun killed him. If it weren't for her many more would have died, prob. all of them. You ever see what a baseball bat will do to a skull? The result is the same as a .38, the person dies.
 
Originally posted by Tabasco
Look at the towns in the U S that require guns.  There is a town in Ga. with no violent crimes, all the houses  have some kind of firearm.
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Please name the town.
 
i have a 870 12 ga beside my bed because ppl have been tempting to brake in my house. i would not shot to kill un-less they had a gun. just shot to scare or injur
 
Originally posted by Lap3Forever
i have a 870 12 ga beside my bed because ppl have been tempting to brake in my house. i would not shot to kill un-less they had a gun. just shot to scare or injur
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Something to think about Lap3. You point a gun at someone you had better be prepared to shoot..........and shoot to kill!! Lot's of people have been shot after pointing or threatening an intruder with an empty gun or a gun they were not fully prepared to pull the trigger on. Think about it.....an intruder is surprised by you and you threaten him with a weapon.....he's scared now and pulls his own weapon but he's already pumped up and is less likely to hesitate.......you're dead or enjured!! Never threaten with a weapon that you don't fully intend to use.
 
lap3, you need a lot more time to mature, or do you want me to take away your car keys again???
 
I didn't mean to start a gun control thing, but if y'all want to keep it up then try a new thread.

IT IS FREAKIN SCAREY that terrorists are almost at my back door, prolly work at 7/11, circle k, subway, wherever.
 
Originally posted by kat2220
I didn't mean to start a gun control thing, but if y'all want to keep it up then try a new thread.

IT IS FREAKIN SCAREY that terrorists are almost at my back door, prolly work at 7/11, circle k, subway, wherever.
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Guess we got kicked off this thread.:(
 
ok enough of the scary crap..let's lighten up now..............
to much serious crap in the world, why bring it here.............:rolleyes:
 
I dont carry guns and never will, I dont use them for entertainment and I shalt not kill. I might die there getting shot by that man that day and suffer for awhile but I know where Im going. whats going to happen to the man that shot me when he dies???
 
Why do I waste my time this is the last time I am gonna repeat myself for the ignorant to get through there thick head. I was just posting facts before,but my personal beleive is that the world would be alot better place without any guns but yes I know its imposible to stop everyone from getting guns, thats why I have no definate side over this debate. I do no without a shadow of a doubt that guns cause problems, there just like alcohol and certain drugs if no one ever knew about em this place would be alot better.
 
the whole human race has got so many problems its not even funny, people fight over land, people fight over races or religion, people fight over getting power or supplies (money).Somebody kills someone and there relative thinks the awnser is to kill that person its rediculous. I have been shot in the leg before on my upper thigh, I have had 2 aunts killed, one killed by her drunk husband shot her in the head with a shutgun, the other was with her friend going to the beech and somehow she got slaughtered cut 16 times I think and they decaptated her. Just because I am 17 doesnt mean stuff hasnt happened to me. Im sorry but violence dont cure violence, we could stop 90% of the crimes we could be like some of those countrys dont even give them a trial just take the person in the corner put em on there knees and shoot them in the back of the head.
 
Because no one appears to be listening to him, Ferg. He's preaching to the "ignorant" masses (us, I suppose) about gun control, and we just won't listen to him. In his estimation, we're just choosing to be ignorant. Oh well.

Funny, I thought name-calling wasn't allowed in this forum... :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by smack500
we could stop 90% of the crimes we could be like some of those countrys dont even give them a trial just take the person in the corner put em on there knees and shoot them in the back of the head.
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if you belive that then you pull the triger.
 
The whole point of me starting this thread was to let people know that terrorists are everywhere, including maybe next door.

Who has a gun or how they got it wasn't the point.

BE OBSERVANT, protect yourself and our country. GOD BLESS THE USA.
 
I said it about 3 times that I have no definate side to this debate I was just posting facts as to why some people beleive in the no gun law and people on here keep saying idiotic things like smack look at this it should change your mind smack read this it should releive any doubts your have etc etc etc its like I have to repeat myself 50 times for someone to see something

thats what im talking about being ignorant
 
Originally posted by smack500
I said it about 3 times that I have no definate side to this debate I was just posting facts as to why some people beleive in the no gun law and people on here keep saying idiotic things like smack look at this it should change your mind smack read this it should releive any doubts your have etc etc etc its like I have to repeat myself 50 times for someone to see something

thats what im talking about being ignorant
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You're not gonna make yourself too many friends around here with that kind of talk, dude. :rolleyes:

You said you didn't have a definite opinion, so why are you so offended by people (like me) posting articles that refute what you said? I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just defending my own position. How does that make me ignorant? And how is it that you can't understand someone (like me) taking offense at that word?

You seem to be demanding our attention by the sheer volume of your posts, and you got it. Congratulations.

P.S. Sorry, Kat, that this thread turned into what it did. I, for one, enjoy a good bit of intelligent debate on important issues. I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing some of the more unpleasant facts of modern life. I didn't mean to do it in your thread, though. My apologies...
 
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