Trucks at Bristol

Blaze88 said:
But why not park Kyle when Kyle did something in a Truck race? Kyle is worst then Kevin you know that right and I don't mean talent wise I mean how they got a dang attitude
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Did he say he was going to take him out?
 
Mopardh9 said:
So that is justification for why Kyle slowed on the track, then smacked Sadler and as Sadler was spinning hit him again? Kyle was wrong in doing it yet you try to make an excuse for him. I'm not a Kyle basher, but that was so blatant how can you defend his actions?
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No it's not justification. What Kyle did in spinning Sadler after the wreck was idiotic. I can't defend that action. But in today's NASCAR, it's legit. All I was saying is that NASCAR let it all play out hoping for something sensational - and they got it!

My point really is that had Harvick done this to Pee Wee, he would be held up as a hero. But because it was Pee Wee who was at the center of this, he is (again) the villain.
 
Blaze88 said:
Its clear to see Kyle meant to do that. How can you even question if Kyle did that on purpose? Wow I swear some people here are so blind.
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The question was did he get on the radio and say i'm taking his azz out

Don't make a chit what I think
 
robbybee said:
No it's not justification. What Kyle did in spinning Sadler after the wreck was idiotic. I can't defend that action. But in today's NASCAR, it's legit. All I was saying is that NASCAR let it all play out hoping for something sensational - and they got it!

My point really is that had Harvick done this to Pee Wee, he would be held up as a hero. But because it was Pee Wee who was at the center of this, he is (again) the villain.
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Harvick is a hero to his fans. Kyle is a hero to his. The rest of us see it for what it is. Another example of Kyle refusing to race CLEAN for the high line. Time and time again, he uses that cheap and messed up slide job to give the driver with position a choice. Back off or be put in the wall. Some guys have learned to back off...enough to let Kyle put himself in the wall.

CREATING contact with a competitor, then wrecking him because he didn't GIVE you want you demanded is cheap. Claiming it is all part of a KHI conspiracy is a huge failure to accept responsability for that first contact, much like a child does.

Like the 5 year old that cries for Mommy screaming "he hit me first", Kyle fails to admit he first threw a toy at that kids head.
 
Note as for the youtube I am limited by my phone. But I do not recall any mention of Martinsville. Maybe this is redundant, but if not consider this to be the rest of the story.



As for Harvicks suspension he was put on probation for the incident with Bifle earlier in 2002.

The actual suspension occurred after Harvick spun out Coy Gibbs in a Craftsman Truck race Nashville Apr 13, 2002


Nascar suspended Harvick for Cup Race on the following day at Martinsville.

Story posted below

http://www.nascar.com/2002/news/headlines/wc/04/14/harvick_suspended/index.html

Harvick not allowed to drive in Virginia 500

By Tim Packman, Turner Sports Interactive
April 15, 2002
9:43 AM EDT (1343 GMT)




MARTINSVILLE, Va. -- NASCAR has put its foot down -- and it landed on the parking brake of Kevin Harvick.

Harvick, driver of the No. 29 Goodwrench Chevrolet, did not race in Sunday's NASCAR Winston Cup Series at Martinsville Speedway.

Harvick was held out because of his actions in the Advance Auto Parts 250 for the Craftsman Truck Series on Saturday. He was already on probation by the sanctioning body for any event, and it was ruled that Harvick would not be allowed to race in the Virginia 500 on Sunday.

A statement released by NASCAR at 8 a.m. ET on Sunday stated:




"NASCAR officials have announced they have "parked" NASCAR Winston Cup Series driver Kevin Harvick until the conclusion of the Virginia 500 NASCAR Winston Cup event at Martinsville Speedway.

"Harvick, on probation following an incident at Bristol Motor Speedway March 23 for actions during a NASCAR Busch Series event, was parked during Saturday's Advance Auto Parts 250 NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series event.

"That time has been extended, preventing him, but not the No. 29 RCR Winston Cup team, from participating through the completion of the event at Martinsville."

Team owner Richard Childress asked Kenny Wallace to drive the No. 29 Chevrolet on Sunday, then issued his own statement.




"NASCAR had to do something in response to Kevin's actions during the Truck race yesterday, but I think their response was completely wrong," Childress said. "NASCAR should keep the actions and punishments separate to each series.

"This should be Kevin's punishment only, but what NASCAR is doing is punishing the tens of thousands of race fans who probably didn't know until they got to the track this morning that Kevin won't be allowed to race today.

NASCAR is also punishing the entire No. 29 team and all of Richard Childress Racing for one person's actions."

Wallace finished 32nd after starting from the rear of the field.

On Saturday. Harvick was racing Coy Gibbs in his self-owned No. 6 Chevy during the Advance Auto Parts 250 when the two tangled, sending Gibbs' No. 20 Chevy spinning on lap 189.




NASCAR felt the actions were deliberate. At that point, NASCAR ordered Harvick to park immediately park his truck.

NASCAR ordered both Harvick and his crew chief Ed Berrier to the Craftsman Truck Series trailer after the race.

"They (NASCAR) thought I retaliated from earlier contact with the 20," said Harvick. "You know, it's just slick down there and I stayed in the gas. I didn't want to get spun out again.

"No, there was no message sent between the spotters. He apologized, and we said that was good."

NASCAR met with Harvick an hour after the race. He was seen leaving the Winston Cup Series trailer and refused to comment on what was said or discussed.

Harvick's probation stemmed from the Busch Series race at Bristol last month when he confronted Greg Biffle after the race. Harvick grabbed Biffle during the verbal confrontation.

Harvick was fined $15,000 and put on probation until Aug. 28. The probation pertained to all NASCAR races that Harvick would compete in and was not just limited to Winston Cup Series races.

Last year, Harvick was fined and placed on probation as well.

Childress said he would meet with Harvick on Monday to discuss the weekend's events.
 
robbybee said:
No it's not justification. What Kyle did in spinning Sadler after the wreck was idiotic. I can't defend that action. But in today's NASCAR, it's legit. All I was saying is that NASCAR let it all play out hoping for something sensational - and they got it!

My point really is that had Harvick done this to Pee Wee, he would be held up as a hero. But because it was Pee Wee who was at the center of this, he is (again) the villain.
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He may be held up as a hero but he would be parked the rest of the weekend but since peewee did it NASCAR will use this to promote next weeks race.
 
fastfordfan said:
The question was did he get on the radio and say i'm taking his azz out

Don't make a chit what I think
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I don't know but he surely said afterwards he did it on purpose during his post-race interview. They never showed me proof Kevin said it on his radio back then so I mean I don't see your point still. Kyle did it on purpose admitted to doing it on purpose. Kevin wrecked Coy back in that truck race in 2002 after he had wrecked him but never once said it was on purpose and got parked in the Cup race. Kyle is just Nacasr's golden boy who they won't ever do anything too.
 
Blaze88 said:
Kevin wrecked Coy back in that truck race in 2002 after he had wrecked him but never once said it was on purpose and got parked in the Cup race. Kyle is just Nacasr's golden boy who they won't ever do anything too.
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Difference being, from reading that article posted, Kevin was already on probation when he spun the 2nd guy and got parked for the cup race.
 
JustMe said:
Difference being, from reading that article posted, Kevin was already on probation when he spun the 2nd guy and got parked for the cup race.
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Even if Kyle was on probation still Nascar would have just extended his probation and a small fine. They play favorites for a lot of drivers and hell I'll admit Dale Jr is one of them sometimes and its crazy. Hell I'm willing to bet if Robby was in a truck or Nationwide race and wrecked someone on purpose and said he did it Nascar would sit him out of the Cup race.
 
Blaze88 said:
Even if Kyle was on probation still Nascar would have just extended his probation and a small fine. They play favorites for a lot of drivers and hell I'll admit Dale Jr is one of them sometimes and its crazy. Hell I'm willing to bet if Robby was in a truck or Nationwide race and wrecked someone on purpose and said he did it Nascar would sit him out of the Cup race.
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Isn't he on probation for the pit road deal??????????
 
bottom line
many ways to get ever
first stop running your stupid mouth
take um to the wall when they stick a mick in your face u grin say i'm sorry and then start telling lies
He brake checked me
I got loose
He got loose
My brakes went out for a SECOND
On and On
 
mike honcho said:
Isn't he on probation for the pit road deal??????????
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BROOKLYN, Mich. -- Probation is over for Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick, but the drivers aren't ready to shake hands and make up.


Asked how much the end of the penalty would change his driving, Busch said "zero."

"It didn't matter being on it or being off it," he said Friday before practice for Sunday's race at Michigan International Speedway. "I try to race the best I can each and every week, as hard as I can and as clean as I can."

The two drivers, fined and disciplined for a run-in after the May 7 race at Darlington, were again told to cool it last week at Pocono. Harvick said afterward that he wanted Busch to know he had one coming.

"Fine with me," Busch said. "It's not my problem. I race my racecar, he drives his. You saw how I raced."

The two have not spoken to each other since NASCAR sat them down before the May 15 race at Dover. Their trailers were parked next to each other Friday morning because placement is determined by Sprint Cup points standings.

Harvick seemed to back off his threat when he spoke to reporters.

"A lot of these things, you go out on the racetrack and things happen and you do what you think is right at the right time," he said.

NASCAR fined the drivers $25,000 each and placed them on probation for an altercation following the Darlington race. The two made contact during the race and Harvick wrecked with teammate Clint Bowyer.

Afterward, Harvick climbed from his car and threw a punch into Busch's window before Busch used his car to bump Harvick's out of the way.

Officials radioed each man's crew during last week's race at Pocono, when Harvick forced Busch down the track while the two were fighting for position.

Busch, docked six points when his car failed inspection after the Pocono race, began the weekend fifth in the Sprint Cup standings, 20 points behind Harvick.

Defending Sprint Cup champion Jimmie Johnson said fans won't be the only ones watching for continued fireworks between the two.

"I have no idea what's going to happen," he said, "but I'm sure we'll all be very entertained."
 
Blaze88 said:
Hell I'm willing to bet if Robby was in a truck or Nationwide race and wrecked someone on purpose and said he did it Nascar would sit him out of the Cup race.
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robby would be suspended from all nascar events for the rest of the season if he spun someone out like kyle did.
 
robbybee said:
No it's not justification. What Kyle did in spinning Sadler after the wreck was idiotic. I can't defend that action. But in today's NASCAR, it's legit. All I was saying is that NASCAR let it all play out hoping for something sensational - and they got it!

My point really is that had Harvick done this to Pee Wee, he would be held up as a hero. But because it was Pee Wee who was at the center of this, he is (again) the villain.
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I get what you are saying, but because of Kyles' past actions over the years he has a reputation, so of course he is the Villain, and deservedly so IMO. It's a shame when grown men and I use that term loosely, can't prove themselves by beating each other fair and square on the race track. They have to resort to childish actions, puting not only themselves in danger, but also the other drivers on track at risk. If they got a beef it should be settled in the pits man to man, not on the track wrecking equipment.
 
Kyle gambled 3X before he hooked his rear on Sadlers front Fender.

You can get away with it some times, but not all the time. Just Kyle thinks he can because, he's Kyle! ;)
 
MOEJOE said:
Kyle gambled 3X before he hooked his rear on Sadlers front Fender.

You can get away with it some times, but not all the time. Just Kyle thinks he can because, he's Kyle! ;)
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Someone during one of these threads said something about a slide job. It was anywhere close to a slide job, but the result was similar to a slide just that just didn't work. And more times than not, when a slide job ends in a wreck like that, it's the guy doing the slide job that thinks he was wronged. I've seen it a billion times on dirt tracks.

No, it doesn't justify Kyle retaliating like he did, but maybe it can show y'all what his brain was telling him, that Sadler was at fault.

But then again, probably not. The KB hatred runs deep, and around here when he does something like that, he is apparently the oooonly one ever in a race car to do such a thing
 
Mopardh9 said:
Bull****...this "have at it" stuff, wrecking people intentionally and puting lives at risk isn't any way to race.
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These "Kyle can intentionally wreck drivers and put lives at risk because he wins races" comments are tiresome.

This "have at it" stuff is crap. It seems you can wreck anyone on the track (unless you're Kevin Harvick or Robby Gordon) but you aren't allowed to confront them after the race. NASCAR has it backwards, I've never liked using racecars as a weapon. Brad Keselowski's almost been killed TWICE because of "have at it", enough is enough.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
These "Kyle can intentionally wreck drivers and put lives at risk because he wins races" comments are tiresome.

This "have at it" stuff is crap. It seems you can wreck anyone on the track (unless you're Kevin Harvick or Robby Gordon) but you aren't allowed to confront them after the race. NASCAR has it backwards, I've never liked using racecars as a weapon. Brad Keselowski's almost been killed TWICE because of "have at it", enough is enough.
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And while you're at it, get over the "almost killed" crap. Talk about over dramatic.
 
FlFlash said:
Ya'll keep throughing out the term "Slide Job" I did'nt see KB doing anything of the kind, he just turned right hoping for a hole.

For the correct usage of multiple "Slide Jobs" watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIJFZkx9ang&feature=related

You can forward that to Busch if you want.
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Yeah, Kyle was just trying to squeeze in a hole that closed up on the backstretch.

No slide job involved, whatsoever. It does happen in Cup though. Darlington comes to mind.
 
Blaze88 said:
Kyle said he was doing a slide job himself :confused::confused:
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Exactly Blaze. A full page of Kyle protecting nonsense should now end with your simple reply.

Slide job or block, the bottom line is that Kyle didn't have the speed to pull in front of Sadler.
 
nascage said:
Yeah, Kyle was just trying to squeeze in a hole that closed up on the backstretch.
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Kyle needs to have words to his spotter if he was called clear :owquitit:, anyways wasn't the first time this has happened and definatly wont be the last
 
My girlfreind who is a Kyle Busch fan :rolleyes: swears that KB's timing was thrown off because he was driving a "Long Bed" pick up instead of a normal car.
(This excuse is very similar to the one she gave after she backed my truck into the mailbox :mad:)

Really though these guys are getting around Bristol in 15-16 seconds, things happen QUICK for drivers and spotters. I really think it was just a racing incedent with no intentions either way. Now the aftermath is an entirely different matter.

Maybe NASCAR needs to add "Grow Up Boys" to their " Go at it Boys" tag line?
 
FlFlash said:
My girlfreind who is a Kyle Busch fan :rolleyes: swears that KB's timing was thrown off because he was driving a "Long Bed" pick up instead of a normal car.
(This excuse is very similar to the one she gave after she backed my truck into the mailbox :mad:)
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lol Your girlfriend seems to be very entertaining.
 
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