Truex penalty

So after Dillions car coming apart at Daytona and Larsons car doing the same with large chunks that were safety wired, going into the crowd and seriously injuring spectators, lets go with three lugs..how stupid can ya get?
 
StandOnIt said:
So after Dillions car coming apart at Daytons and Larsons car having large chunks that were safety wired, seriously injuring spectators, lets go with three lugs..how stupid can ya get?
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What the hell does that have to do with lugnuts? Again, you cant tell me when a "loose wheel" came off non crash related. They arent running 3 lugs no matter what you say.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Regardless of its origins or the teams' intentions, can we all agree that the current penalty is too harsh? Not that NASCAR cares what we agree on...
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Yes it is. But just remember why. You cant let a driver go rouge in the media saying people in the stands were gonna get killed and make it a slap on the wrist penalty, then it would turn back to NASCAR is putting the fans in Jeopardy.
 
StandOnIt said:
So after Dillions car coming apart at Daytona and Larsons car doing the same with large chunks that were safety wired, going into the crowd and seriously injuring spectators, lets go with three lugs..how stupid can ya get?
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If memory serves, those wheels and tires were still attached to the hubs, brake rotors, spindles and some part or parts of their control arms.

Naturally, I could be wrong.
 
aunty dive said:
If memory serves, those wheels and tires were still attached to the hubs, brake rotors, spindles and some part or parts of their control arms.

Naturally, I could be wrong.
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despite all of the safety features, so let them run three right?
 
Spotter22 said:
Yes it is. But just remember why. You cant let a driver go rouge in the media saying people in the stands were gonna get killed and make it a slap on the wrist penalty, then it would turn back to NASCAR is putting the fans in Jeopardy.
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There was a certain congress women trying to outlaw racing during Tony's dirt track incident if I remember correctly. In this anti racing climate IMO letting them go with three when there is supposed to be 5 is political suicide.
 
Spotter22 said:
Did you miss the part where the wheel was still on even after the violent impact? smh
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so just because it didn't happen, means it never will, three are as strong as 5 lugs right? Why don't you lobby Nascar for 3 lug wheels. Big saver for Detroit too. go there.
 
StandOnIt said:
so just because it didn't happen, means it never will, three are as strong as 5 lugs right? Why don't you lobby Nascar for 3 lug wheels. Big saver for Detroit too. go there.
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Why lobby? According to you they are already doing it. Word to the wise, sit low enough in the stands so the catch fence protects you
 
Spotter22 said:
Why lobby? According to you they are already doing it. Word to the wise, sit low enough in the stands so the catch fence protects you
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They "were" doing it. pay attention. That is why there is a rule..can't wait for the comments next year when they are reworking the foot wells and installing crash cameras to make the cars even safer.
 
Probably won't change anybodies mind but it make sense to me anyway

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Spotter22 said:
Yes they were..........and they only had 3 lugs on
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My search was by no means all inclusive but between Google and YouTube I could not find any incidents where wheels were flying off due to being affixed with 3 lugnuts only.
 
Bobw said:
Ok, he goofed and was penalized. But Harvick was right behind him and followed him across the line yet wasn't penalized. Why not?
Did I hear correctly that nascrap acknowledged Harvick's infraction but it was at their discretion to issue a penalty?
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The reason Harvick was not penalized was that the leader, Truex, "establishes the line". It doesn't matter how many followed him afterwards. The whole line could have followed him down there without a penalty because the line had been established.
 
they outlawed the camber bending on the rear ends also, the constant bending on the third member to get into spec caused the wheel assembly to separate from the axle and the wheel assembly to come off. KDB crew chief sat out 4 races for a loose wheel. Nascar has never let crews run with less then five lug nuts.
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StandOnIt said:
they outlawed the camber bending on the rear ends also, the constant bending on the third member to get into spec caused the wheel assembly to separate from the axle and the wheel assembly to come off. KDB crew chief sat out 4 races for a loose wheel. Nascar has never let crews run with less then five lug nuts.
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The 39 looks to have a broken track bar. Not sure what you are showing in the 10 picture
 
We seem to have lost a few posts. Confusing.

Refresh my memory ... what are we arguing about?
 
And ... a degree from the Trevor Boys Campus of Bobby Hillin Jr. University is nothing to be sneezed at.








but i sneezed on it anyway
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch........

Lots of good stuff regarding how wheels are affixed, how they should be affixed, how they shouldn't be affixed and some talk about wheel flying off. I am trying to steer the conversation toward the proper R&R on the jugs of a Corvair engine.
 
StandOnIt said:
see for yourself, first part of the clip. The 10 picture shows two nascar officials making sure five lugs are on each tire.
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I dont know where you are going with this. When did I say they were putting on less. That was YOUR argument. Ok wached the first of the clip and it wasnt a track bar but what does heating a rearend to get camber fall in to a lugnut convo?
 
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Spotter22 said:
I spotted that^^ You were testing me werent you Professor?
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I was.

I usta' race Trevor's dad Buddie when they lived in Calgary. He and Trevor's mom Barb were terrific people. My girls played with Trevor out behind the motorhomes.
 
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Spotter22 said:
They arent running 3 lugs no matter what you say.
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BRISTOL, Tenn. — Until last year, it was a NASCAR violation for any car to leave the pits with a missing lug nut. If an official spotted the infraction, the car was required to return for another pit stop and correct the problem.

But that rule disappeared along with many of NASCAR’s officials as part of staffing cuts, and now drivers often leave the pits with only four — sometimes three — lug nuts on their wheels. After all, putting fewer than five lug nuts on the wheel saves time.
If you ask Dale Earnhardt Jr., that’s an unsettling thought.

“It freaks me out,” Earnhardt said Friday

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-jr-lug-nuts-tires-wheel-vibrations/83092680/


But teams have been pushing the limit by only securing as few as three lug nuts, creating an epidemic of loose wheels in the sport. And Stewart said it's only a matter of time before that ends badly.

"I guarantee you that envelope is going to keep getting pushed until somebody gets hurt," Stewart said. "You will not have heard a rant that’s going to be as bad as what’s going to come out of my mouth if a driver gets hurt because of a loose wheel that hurts one of them.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...s-nascar-lug-nut-rule-driver-safety/83298016/
 
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