I speak as a lifelong fan of the football team that Gibbs coached, and as an early fan of Coach Gibbs' Nascar team... Gibbs had to *convince* me through his actions that my allegiance would fit better elsewhere.
It would be understandable for a person to have a single standard for how professional athletes should behave. Professional ethics--much like personal morality--is relative. Coach has managed KB and Stewart...and to your point numerous football athletes not by a preconceived and specific standard, but by a standard relative to the human beings that they are. I am sure that there are lines that cannot be crossed--and clearly KB nor Tony crossed those enough to be fired, but I can't say with any certainty if any of his football players did....but I am sure some probably did. Indeed Coach is a Christian man, but he accepts people for who they are, and does his best to make them the best person they can be. Now, that "best" may be crap to you, but not everybody's ceiling is that of a William Byron or a Jimmie Johnson or whoever you consider to be the standard.
100%.
I'll tell you what....Larson drove him clean as well. I was impressed with what he chose not to do.
is that a good or bad thing
Yes.is that a good or bad thing
In real world terms......many of them come from money.....lots of money. I don't care about that. I like the way he drives. He does go over the line, but so do many....all about the spin. As far as his faith....much like Coach, I believe he has strong conviction, but is not bound by the expectation that he should be perfect or fulfill a stereotype. He is what he is....and much like KFB, he doesn't care what anybody thinks.....except his owner.
How well is that working for ol sponsorless Kyle?
...and honestly, I sure wish it did. I like them both--particularly Ty. I sat next to him flying to San Francisco a couple of years ago, and the dude was a complete gentleman. I was really impressed. Saw some stuff I was reading, recognized me as a race fan, and talked racing for two hours. I kept telling him that I knew he probably wanted to relax and think about something else, and he told me that it was HIS pleasure to chat with a fan. BTW....he told me that Toyota was lucky to have such a loyal fan. Great guy.
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I think ol sponsor less Kyle needs to give ol retired Matt Kenseth a call to discuss that 10 million he isn't letting go of.....Tell ya what, I know what the Ty Gibbs narrative has been, but I think that Alpert left the door open. I think that if somebody was out there willing to give Kyle the 10 million he thinks he deserves, he would be gone by now. I am sure that his Truck team is a part of the conversation as well.
Ty Gibbs is an absolute supertalent. His car control is insane and it's allowed him to do things that no other driver can even dream of. Dude's got more natural talent than any up-and-coming driver. In my experiences, he's also been a gentleman.
But I am not going to show "appreciation" for dirty driving. And I don't know if it's an act or what, but Ty Gibbs is the epitome of everything that's wrong with this new generation of racers. They'll do whatever it takes to win, even if it means flat out wrecking someone else. They grew up watching Days of Thunder and Talladega Nights (if you ain't first you're last
They have no respect for their equipment, their crews, or the hard work of the drivers and teams around them. They get in their cars and won't think twice about wrecking another man, and don't care what the aftermath is.
I've seen it way too much in Late Model racing too. Drivers are side-by-side for the win on the backstretch and the second place car will just wreck the first place car to win instead of racing to the finish. Or will wreck the leader as they cross the checkered flag, making sure that dude who just won a race now has to spend $25,000+ in damages.
Respect is earned. Appreciation is earned. And right now, most of these damn kids aren't doing a thing to earn it.
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I hear what you are saying. These kids are growing up in a racing world when the definition of a bump and run vs. a dump and run is ambiguous at best. I haven't seen anything written about Briscoe that describes him as dirty (until your post). Why? Because he's a grassroots, dirt tracking'...rrrrracer...smiles and shakes hands and everything is just fine. Ty Gibbs....different narrative.....spoiled brat who never earned anything. So, if it's murky from the outside, it's murky from the inside. These kids never saw the old school guys race, so who's fault is it that they don't know what the hell they are doing? Crew Chiefs...and owners. Why aren't they threatening to dump them for their driving? I get that the yappers here will say that it's because Ty is Coach's grandkid, but then what about ol Briscoe? They aren't threatening because they don't know. They react to the negative **** if it surfaces, but stay quiet if the fans and media are willing to ingest it. We place all of the blame on the driver, but this is a team sport and egomaniac owners are staying quiet when their drivers get away with ****. Ty is in a place in his career where I think he is responsive to those he trusts the most. I thought he raced Larson very well last week, but at the same time much credit needs to be given to Larson for not being a dick. Had Larson done what he could have done, it would have been interesting to see if Ty had progressed in this area, but the Ty we have seen sure as hell would have hit him back.
"Win and you're in / you advance to the next round" discourages that style of driving. You're thinking of when consistency mattered, silly boy.
And they will have more than enough whining to bleed all over the threads about how these drivers have no respect as it gets closer to the playoffs. Suck it up buttercups, it ain't going to change..Go cut your lawn lol.
The stupid thing is that the "fandom" tries to tear him down before he even completely shows up. I have not had a ton of great angles in order to absolutely sit back and enjoy a driver driving.....stumbled upon a vantage point in Portland because the track crossing was inexplicably closed. Ended up on a hill overlooking 8 with some spotters because a security guy was amazingly cool...started to rain...Ty was sideways....looked at my phone for times....top of the sheet....repeatedly. Kept managing the slide....kept getting faster. Because it was practice, they were going through one at a time so I could hear the throttle....Damn, that was an unexpected awesome experience. Went down on a whim, and turned out to be the experience of a lifetime. Race tracks are like that sometimes. So awesome.
C'mon man, you know better than that. Gibbs earned his reputation whacking other cars like a damn cue ball, and every week says it's just racing. Until that race someone touches *his* fender, and it's all like...
9th on the all-time list, 1st among current Cup drivers.
Ty's actually a good kid.
and sponsorless
…and still racing, still 9th on the all-time list, and still the current driver with the most Cup wins.and sponsorless
…and still racing, still 9th on the all-time list, and still the current driver with the most Cup wins.
