Where Will Newman End Up?

Yeah, the kid needs at least two years in Nationwide before he goes Cup. There's a few Cup guys that haven't signed a 2014 seat yet. I don't think Montoya will ever get the hang of stock cars.
Montoya has the stock car thing down it is the attitude thing he has no clue on.
 
I gotta disagree. 8 years, 2 wins and an average finish of 18.2
Time to do something else.
Ok maybe a better way to put it, his attitude gets in the way of his driving sometimes, he has won in everything he has driven. He's just a DH at times and I think he loses his focus.;)
 
He would have a win at Indy but NASCAR screwed him outta that one
 
I think Montoya is a fine driver, He's gotten better at ovals.. I just think Ganassi hasn't been really up to snuff til this year and even this year, they've had some failures that aren't of Juan's doing.

I don't think he can be a champion in Nascar.. clock is ticking when you're already 37 but it would be a mistake to take him out of the ride for Larson next year or Newman.
 
I think Newman will end up in the 51, the 42, the 33, or maybe even the 9. The 9 just occured to me and its not as likely but Ambrose has been saying for a couple years now he's thinking about going back home to run the super cars.. not sure what his contract looks like but I'd bet Petty would scoop up Newman for he 9 car in a second if he could. I have seen the article saying Childress says Newman top candidate for the 29.. but I dont see them going to a 4 car team with the less than impressive couple of seasons they've been having. Harvick is the only (consistently) winning driver Childress has had for a while and he's leaving. I just don't see Newman going there and Childreess going to a 4 car team. Menard has daddy dollars and Burton is a veteran, with Dillon coming to cup in the 3 I see no room there for Newman at least until Burton retires. Maybe he'll do a transition season in the 51?.. seems to be the team that takes the outcasts while their careers are in limbo.. but who knows? With Finch selling the team, they may be full too. Im sure Newman will get a ride but he hasn't really been very impressive lately. He's going to have to start knockin off wins if he wants his career to head in a good direction from here regardless of where he ends up. Ill bet he only gets a 1 year deal where ever it is.
 
I personally would love to see Montoya gone, but I wouldnt love to see Larson rushed. He will be ready for cup in 2015, minimum.
 
If I were an owner, I'd stay away from Newman. He's been underperforming since 2006 and he won't do any better with a new team. He's currently in a contract year and in Hendrick equipment. He should be getting at least a couple wins a year and competing for a Chase spot. Instead, he's racing David Gilliland on a weekly basis. Maybe he can get a good Nationwide ride. I don't see him getting a quality Cup ride next year though. Austin Dillon's probably going to win the Nationwide championship and get the #29 next year. Furniture Row likely won't expand. Vickers has the #55. Roush would put Trevor Bayne in the #6 before Newman if sponsorship came up. Gibbs probably won't expand to a fourth team. McMurray and Montoya will likely stay in their rides. Maybe he can drive full-time in the Nationwide series next season or something like that, because as of now I see his options being backmarker teams.

Hmmmmm.
 
I gotta disagree. 8 years, 2 wins and an average finish of 18.2
Time to do something else.
Not to nitpick...well, ok, to nitpick...Montoya has 6 1/2 years in Cup, not 8. He was a rookie in '07, meaning he's halfway through his seventh season. And let's face it, EGR isn't exactly top-shelf equipment. If he'd spent the last 6.5 years driving for Hendrick or Gibbs, the story might be different.
 
Not to nitpick...well, ok, to nitpick...Montoya has 6 1/2 years in Cup, not 8. He was a rookie in '07, meaning he's halfway through his seventh season.
Ok. so 2 wins in 6 1/2 years sounds better? o_O
Does 2 wins in 237 races sound any better?
 
Go have a piss contest with someone else. :owquitit:
Not a piss contest, just debating some points of yours I don't agree with and calling BS where I see it...ok, then I guess it is a piss contest. Anyway, I'll shake it and move along...
 
Not a piss contest, just debating some points of yours I don't agree with and calling BS where I see it...ok, then I guess it is a piss contest. Anyway, I'll shake it and move along...
Ok, smartass.
Dale Jr. has more wins than he does years in the seat. Montoya has many more years in the seat than he does wins. Did you ever attend math class?
Chew on that BS.
 
Ok, smartass.
Dale Jr. has more wins than he does years in the seat. Montoya has many more years in the seat than he does wins. Did you ever attend math class?
Chew on that BS.
Yeah, in math class they taught us 2013 minus 2007 does not equal 8 ;)
 
Yeah, in math class they taught us 2013 minus 2007 does not equal 8 ;)
I never said "in 8 full years". Do a Wiki search, Montoya has "237 races run over 8 years."
Like I said take your piss contest elsewhere (at least until you know what you're talking about.)
 
I never said "in 8 full years". Do a Wiki search, Montoya has "237 races run over 8 years."
Like I said take your piss contest elsewhere (at least until you know what you're talking about.)
I guess that one start he made in 2006 was the "8th year" you speak of.

You mentioned "Wiki" and "piss" in the same post. Would that be like WikiLeaks?

Ok, gonna try to shake again and walk away.
 
I guess that one start he made in 2006 was the "8th year" you speak of.

You mentioned "Wiki" and "piss" in the same post. Would that be like WikiLeaks?

Ok, gonna get my tweezers & shake it again and walk away.
"Over 8 years"; which part of that is most difficult for you to understand?
Here's something else for you to try to figure out, since you compared Montoya to Dale Jr.: Dale is in The Chase and Montoya is 23rd.
 
"Over 8 years"; which part of that is most difficult for you to understand?
Here's something else for you to try to figure out, since you compared Montoya to Dale Jr.: Dale is in The Chase and Montoya is 23rd.
Nobody's in the Chase until September 7th.

I'm trying to end this urination contest but you're not letting me.
 
Unfortunately I don't see him going to a major team...It's not his driving ability, but his ability to attract a full time well known sponsor(not the sponsor of the week like at SHR)....Company's are looking for young guns to throw their $$$$ at. I think he goes to Furniture Row with Kurt as the second car.
 
Nobody's in the Chase until September 7th.

I'm trying to end this urination contest but you're not letting me.
So, you figure Montoya is going to make The Chase from his current 23rd position? o_O
You already lost the pissing contest when you showed up ;)
 
I still think Hamlin's the wildcard. He's one of the good guy who ain't forgotten where he comes from but he doesn't have "it" anymore. I could see Newman at Gibbs if this continues.
 
So, you figure Montoya is going to make The Chase from his current 23rd position? o_O
You already lost the pissing contest when you showed up ;)
Montoya will likely not make the Chase, Junior likely will. All I said earlier is that they both have 2 wins in the 6 1/2 (or according to you, 8) years that Montoya's been in Cup. Which is true.

I'm afraid I'm all out of piss. Maybe we'll resume this debate 8 years from now, in 2019.
 
I thought the topic was "where will Newman end up"? sort of like na na nee naa naaa on the playground, my driver is worse then yours. I don't think Newman will be in cup next year with a team that is that competitive if he is even in cup full time. Might be part time somewhere for the big races that pay well. Might be terrorizing the N'widers is more like it or driving a truck.
 
I thought the topic was "where will Newman end up"? sort of like na na nee naa naaa on the playground, my driver is worse then yours. I don't think Newman will be in cup next year with a team that is that competitive if he is even in cup full time. Might be part time somewhere for the big races that pay well. Might be terrorizing the N'widers is more like it or driving a truck.
It's too early to tell. There are a few now-occupied seats that may be available in 2014.
 
All this chit-chat adds up to exactly --- Nothing.

Ryan will end up wherever Ryan ends up. We can jack our jaws til the cows come home and nothing will change.
But, it does liven up a Sunday evening. :D
 
I really can't understand why he doesn't do it now, so that he has extra time to heal. Back surgery is touchy. If he waits too long and has trouble, it could put the start of next season in jepardy.
The thought of someone taking a scalpel to my spine scares the crap out of me.
From Jayskis:
Hamlin has no plans to cut back racing sched: There are days when Denny Hamlin's back hurts so much he can hardly move. When he wakes up in the morning, it sometimes takes four hours before he can stand up straight and feel stable. His persistent back pain, caused by bulging discs, only got worse when he fractured a vertebra in the March race at Southern California's Auto Club Speedway. He needs surgery to fix the bulging discs, and some observers have called for Hamlin to give up on his longshot Chase hopes and have the procedure done now to make sure he has enough time to heal before 2014. But Hamlin told USA TODAY Sports on Saturday he plans to "tough it out" for the rest of the year. "It's tough because there are no backups in our sport," he said while relaxing in his motorhome before qualifying at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. "I'm the face of our team  the (Joe) Gibbs (Racing) team, FedEx, everyone  so you can't just insert another player for the rest of the year and have no one know the difference. You know, I've got to do whatever I've got to do to just get through the season, honestly. And then I can figure out what I can do to (feel) better next year. But right now, we're just in a mode of trying to finish races."(USA Today)(7-28-2013)
 
....Company's are looking for young guns to throw their $$$$ at. I think he goes to Furniture Row with Kurt as the second car.

Is that an offhand comment or do you really think that ? Seems to me sponsors are attracted to grizzled veterans .Names like Burton , Gordon , Harvick , Montoya , Earnhardt ,and Johnson. . I really don't see many newcomers attracting sponsors . Can you give an example ?
 
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