Top of the 4th, 1 out, man on 3rd(St. Louis), score still 2-0 Sox.
Oh, and Schilling is pitching.
Oh, and Schilling is pitching.
World Series Thread
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peyton shea
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Bottom of the 4th, 2 outs, Bellhorn hits a 2-run double!!! 4-1 Sox!
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DirtyMo1381529
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sox tack on another 2 in the bottom of the 4th, with a bellhorn double
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peyton shea
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Rattle those cages !!!!
Still 4-1 Sox, middle of the 5th.
AND did you know.....
BOSTON (AP) - Pitchers have dipped their fingers in pickle brine to ward off blisters, gotten cortisone shots in their shoulders or elbows, had their hamstrings wrapped in yards of tape. No one in World Series history ever has prepared for a game quite the way Curt Schilling will for the Boston Red Sox in Game 2 against the St. Louis Cardinals on Sunday.
No one else, of course, ever had a dislocated ankle tendon sutured temporarily into place by stitching the skin to the deep tissue below it, much less had gone ahead to do it a second time less than a week later to pitch in a game of this magnitude.
Schilling underwent that unique procedure, conceived by team medical director Dr. Bill Morgan, before holding the New York Yankees to four hits and one run in seven innings in Game 6 of the ALCS. The spot of leaking blood on his sock gave new meaning to Red Sox and elevated him to a special place in team lore.
Jim Lonborg, a large part of that lore, has an appreciation for pitching greatness and medical creativity.
The last man to throw a complete-game one hitter in the World Series _ coincidentally the last time his Red Sox played the Cardinals for the championship in 1967 _ Dr. Lonborg went to school for premed and is in his 21st year as a dentist after 15 years in the majors.
When Schilling takes the mound Sunday, Lonborg knows he will be seeing something extraordinary.
"Watching Curt in that game a few days ago, I think that was one of the gutsiest performances I've ever seen," Lonborg said. "I don't know as a pitcher that I would be able to stay in the kind of groove that he's been able to maintain. But he's probably been able to identify his pitching motion and the components of it to the point where he knows exactly what he has to do to make good deliveries. He's really been able to focus on that.
"It's such a feather in Dr. Morgan's cap to be able to come up with that, to have the imagination to remedy the problem with that tendon that was flopping around down there. It's just absolutely phenomenal that a few sutures could create such a wonderful feeling for Curt to be able to pitch. It's the simplest of procedures, but it's also very innovative. Dr. Morgan just got a great brainstorm and he went with it."
One obstacle for Morgan was that he had never performed such a procedure and didn't know of anyone else who had who could be consulted. So to test his theory, he tried it out on human cadaver legs. Convinced it would work, Morgan quickly got an eager Schilling to buy into the idea, with the assurance that it shouldn't damage his ankle any further.
The sheath surrounding one of Schilling's tendons across the back of the ankle had ruptured, allowing the tendon to slip out of its groove. The tendon kept snapping against the bone when Schilling pitched, and lost, in the opener against the Yankees. To repair the sheath, Schilling will require surgery after the season. Morgan's solution was to do something that would help Schilling right now.
"We were going to do it as a last-ditch scenario," Boston general manager Theo Epstein said. "Although it seems extreme _ we couldn't find a case of it ever having been done before _ we thought it was almost a conservative approach in that it would be the best way for Curt to have his normal mechanics."
The sutures Schilling had last Monday were taken out after Tuesday's game to prevent infection. New ones will be sewn in before he pitches against the Cardinals in Game 2 and, possibly, Game 6 or 7.
Schilling's performance against the Yankees was reminiscent of Kirk Gibson's pinch-hit, game-winning homer with a leg injury, and his limping, fist-pumping trot around the bases as the Los Angeles Dodgers beat Oakland in 1988. As Hollywoodesque as that moment was, it required only one swing by Gibson, not seven innings of play.
Yet moments like those, in the spotlight of the World Series, a Super Bowl, an NBA championship or an Olympics, come to define an athlete and overshadow the rest of his or her career. Willis Reed is still remembered for the way he limped onto the court to help the New York Knicks win in 1970.
Schilling, who led the majors with 21 victories this year at age 37, was well on his way to the Hall of Fame before he pitched on his bum ankle. He's among the active major league leaders in career strikeouts and complete games. He was the MVP of the 1993 NLCS for Philadelphia and was co-MVP with Arizona teammate Randy Johnson in 2001. This postseason will enhance Schilling's stature far beyond those achievements.
Schilling has long been famous for game preparation that borders on obsessiveness. He has handwritten notebooks filled with batters' tendencies that he studies in the dugout on game days. For years, he has mailed videotapes of each outing to a company that transfers them to compact discs so he can view them on his laptop computer.
He has a video library with dozens of discs that catalogue every pitch he's ever thrown. On the road, he studies them in his hotel room. He even tracks each umpire's strike zone.
Now he's taking preparation to a new level, making medical history in a bid to make baseball history by helping the Red Sox win a World Series for the first time in 86 years.
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Steve Wilstein is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at swilstein(at)ap.org
Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.
BOSTON (AP) - Pitchers have dipped their fingers in pickle brine to ward off blisters, gotten cortisone shots in their shoulders or elbows, had their hamstrings wrapped in yards of tape. No one in World Series history ever has prepared for a game quite the way Curt Schilling will for the Boston Red Sox in Game 2 against the St. Louis Cardinals on Sunday.
No one else, of course, ever had a dislocated ankle tendon sutured temporarily into place by stitching the skin to the deep tissue below it, much less had gone ahead to do it a second time less than a week later to pitch in a game of this magnitude.
Schilling underwent that unique procedure, conceived by team medical director Dr. Bill Morgan, before holding the New York Yankees to four hits and one run in seven innings in Game 6 of the ALCS. The spot of leaking blood on his sock gave new meaning to Red Sox and elevated him to a special place in team lore.
Jim Lonborg, a large part of that lore, has an appreciation for pitching greatness and medical creativity.
The last man to throw a complete-game one hitter in the World Series _ coincidentally the last time his Red Sox played the Cardinals for the championship in 1967 _ Dr. Lonborg went to school for premed and is in his 21st year as a dentist after 15 years in the majors.
When Schilling takes the mound Sunday, Lonborg knows he will be seeing something extraordinary.
"Watching Curt in that game a few days ago, I think that was one of the gutsiest performances I've ever seen," Lonborg said. "I don't know as a pitcher that I would be able to stay in the kind of groove that he's been able to maintain. But he's probably been able to identify his pitching motion and the components of it to the point where he knows exactly what he has to do to make good deliveries. He's really been able to focus on that.
"It's such a feather in Dr. Morgan's cap to be able to come up with that, to have the imagination to remedy the problem with that tendon that was flopping around down there. It's just absolutely phenomenal that a few sutures could create such a wonderful feeling for Curt to be able to pitch. It's the simplest of procedures, but it's also very innovative. Dr. Morgan just got a great brainstorm and he went with it."
One obstacle for Morgan was that he had never performed such a procedure and didn't know of anyone else who had who could be consulted. So to test his theory, he tried it out on human cadaver legs. Convinced it would work, Morgan quickly got an eager Schilling to buy into the idea, with the assurance that it shouldn't damage his ankle any further.
The sheath surrounding one of Schilling's tendons across the back of the ankle had ruptured, allowing the tendon to slip out of its groove. The tendon kept snapping against the bone when Schilling pitched, and lost, in the opener against the Yankees. To repair the sheath, Schilling will require surgery after the season. Morgan's solution was to do something that would help Schilling right now.
"We were going to do it as a last-ditch scenario," Boston general manager Theo Epstein said. "Although it seems extreme _ we couldn't find a case of it ever having been done before _ we thought it was almost a conservative approach in that it would be the best way for Curt to have his normal mechanics."
The sutures Schilling had last Monday were taken out after Tuesday's game to prevent infection. New ones will be sewn in before he pitches against the Cardinals in Game 2 and, possibly, Game 6 or 7.
Schilling's performance against the Yankees was reminiscent of Kirk Gibson's pinch-hit, game-winning homer with a leg injury, and his limping, fist-pumping trot around the bases as the Los Angeles Dodgers beat Oakland in 1988. As Hollywoodesque as that moment was, it required only one swing by Gibson, not seven innings of play.
Yet moments like those, in the spotlight of the World Series, a Super Bowl, an NBA championship or an Olympics, come to define an athlete and overshadow the rest of his or her career. Willis Reed is still remembered for the way he limped onto the court to help the New York Knicks win in 1970.
Schilling, who led the majors with 21 victories this year at age 37, was well on his way to the Hall of Fame before he pitched on his bum ankle. He's among the active major league leaders in career strikeouts and complete games. He was the MVP of the 1993 NLCS for Philadelphia and was co-MVP with Arizona teammate Randy Johnson in 2001. This postseason will enhance Schilling's stature far beyond those achievements.
Schilling has long been famous for game preparation that borders on obsessiveness. He has handwritten notebooks filled with batters' tendencies that he studies in the dugout on game days. For years, he has mailed videotapes of each outing to a company that transfers them to compact discs so he can view them on his laptop computer.
He has a video library with dozens of discs that catalogue every pitch he's ever thrown. On the road, he studies them in his hotel room. He even tracks each umpire's strike zone.
Now he's taking preparation to a new level, making medical history in a bid to make baseball history by helping the Red Sox win a World Series for the first time in 86 years.
___
Steve Wilstein is a national sports columnist for The Associated Press. Write to him at swilstein(at)ap.org
Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.
It's chilly here, but it's COLD in Boston (weather wise)
GOOOOOOOOO SOX!!! Oh lord they just mentioned some historic BAAASTUN names. and I think they need an "Instant Replay" so hit it again Ortiz, aw well, he tried.
GOOOOOOOOO SOX!!! Oh lord they just mentioned some historic BAAASTUN names. and I think they need an "Instant Replay" so hit it again Ortiz, aw well, he tried.
Cabrerra hits a 2-out single that scores 2 runs! 6-1 Sox!
97forever
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fergy1370
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Red Sox are cheating!! The bases are closer!!! I saw them move the centerfield wall closer to the plate!! Speaking of which, the size of the home plate is bigger for the Sox!! They are hitting lighter baseballs!! The Cardinals have lead in their bats!! I have proof!!!!!
Get it certified Fergy, and notorised, and
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peyton shea
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Fergy .... you alright up there ????
fergy1370
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Yeah, I'm good. Just thought I'd throw a little conspiracy theory in the mix.Originally posted by peyton shea@Oct 24 2004, 09:42 PM
Fergy .... you alright up there ????
fergy1370
Team Owner
Anyone see what was on the back of Schilling's hat tonight?
What fun...The owner of the Sox got hooked on baseball as a Redbird fan!
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peyton shea
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What was on back of his hat ???
Wasn't paying attention to the hat.
Wasn't paying attention to the hat.
I missed it! What did it say?
And, a little conspiracy never hurt now did it??? :lol:
GOD BLESS AMERICA by Donna Summer was inspiring and very well done!
fergy1370
Team Owner
I missed it! What did it say?
And, a little conspiracy never hurt now did it??? :lol: [/b][/quote]
It was a picture of this....
whatever the pic you posted was, fergy, all I see is a red x
Try it again Fergy
fergy1370
Team Owner
Try it again...
It was this!!
Ok, I know its not the same picture and I lost the effect this was suppose to have.
I don't know why the original wouldn't pop up.
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peyton shea
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:lol:
Bottom of the 8th, 0 outs, 6-2 Sox!
97forever
Team Owner
GO SOX!
(And go Mr . funny man Fergy! )
(And go Mr . funny man Fergy!
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Red Sox win! Up 2 games to none! 
97forever
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peyton shea
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Good job guys !!!!!
Game three in St. Louis on Tuesday!
fergy1370
Team Owner
Check the Sox's (soxes? soxi?) bats!! Look at the base size!! The distance from the mound to the plate!!! The fence moves in when the Sox are batting!! I hope MLB is happy because they brought all this on themselves!! Its obvious MLB is letting the AL slip through the cracks again by not being consistant!!Originally posted by majestyx@Oct 24 2004, 10:37 PM
Red Sox win! Up 2 games to none!
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slick-nick
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We all know that's a cheap shot...
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peyton shea
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:lol:
Fergy ... you need to stop.
Fergy ... you need to stop.
fergy1370
Team Owner
Stop what?
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peyton shea
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The conspiracy deal.
Red Sox just have it going on right now, hope they keep it up in St Louis.
Red Sox just have it going on right now, hope they keep it up in St Louis.
fergy1370
Team Owner
Please tell me you are kidding......Originally posted by peyton shea@Oct 25 2004, 05:25 PM
The conspiracy deal.
Red Sox just have it going on right now, hope they keep it up in St Louis.
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peyton shea
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I'm teasing .... I sorry ..... 
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DirtyMo1381529
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well, with today being a travel day, one good thing is certain. the sox won't win today! go card's!